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Check out the Records Table.

Read a review of the pack by Proxima.

See also Lemminas II - the sequel!

Allow me to introduce Lemminas. Lemminas are female Lemmings, who wear pink instead of blue and have blue hair, like Marge Simpson, that they keep in a ready-for-action swish pony tail.

The world they inhabit is rich with colour, magic, unicorns and gelato!

Help them navigate their way across the mysterious, magical lands of Purple Kingdom as they find their way back home...

Feast your eyes and ears on these beautiful worlds and enjoy the brand new music; some of it is my own, some of it I've borrowed from classical themes and popular nursery songs, in keeping with the Lemmings tradition (full credits below). I've tried to match it with the visual themes to create an immersive and hopefully memorable playing experience.

Anyway, enough waffle from me! Here are the screenshots:

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This pack has been an absolute joy to create. There has been laughter, tears, late nights, eye candy overload, sugar highs, frantically-typed messages, painstaking attention to way too much detail, and all that other good stuff you lovely people have come to expect from a fully-formed pack of NeoLemmix levels.

A huge, huge thank-you to DireKrow for playtesting the entire pack in its first draft, and for going above and beyond to provide a full set of replays, extensively detailed feedback and invaluable advice (most of which has been followed, I assure you!) ;P

Another big thank-you to Proxima and IchoTolot for providing further testing, muchos helpful comments and suggestions, backroute-detection servicing, and pointing out that 300 Lemminas probably is too many...

And of course, a thank-you to Namida for maintaining the platform that supports all of our frantic doodling and puzzlesome wanderings. And for helping to make The Unnecessarily Tall Pillar a much better level. :thumbsup:

But most of all, big thanks to YOU for saving the Lemminas! (That is, after you've downloaded and completed the pack. ;P)

Without further ado, proceed to the downloads section below and enjoy this pack in all its glory! Along with the levels, there is a full set of replays for all Talismans (88 in total - at least 1 on every level!), and of course the music, sound and required styles.

Please feel free to use any of the content (i.e. music, sounds, styles) for your own packs; just remember to credit me if you do.

Enjoy Lemminas!

Recommended settings: NeoLemmix 12.8+ / High Resolution / No Smooth Resampling / Normal Quality Minimap

The pack has been playtested on a low-end laptop with the above settings; all levels performed well and there were no lag issues, even on large levels.

Music Credits:

All tracks arranged and produced by me using Logic Pro X, composer credits as follows:

Lemminas 1 - My own composition
Lemminas 2 - My own composition
Lemminas 3 - Based on Mozart's Sonata in C, Bach's Toccota and Fugue in Dm and Traditional Nursery Rhyme Five Little Speckled Frogs
Lemminas 4 - My own composition
Lemminas 5 - Based on Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 in C#m
Lemminas 6 - Based on Zoëë's Techno Wonderland, with an ending composed by me
Lemminas 7 - Based on Traditional Nursery Rhymes The Ants Go Marching In and Nellie The Elephant
Lemminas 8 - My own composition

Setting up Lemminas:

I've put everything into one zip folder called Lemminas V1.04 which can be extracted directly to the root folder of your copy of NeoLemmix (the extractor will place everything where it should be). However, if you prefer to do these things manually, ensure that you do the following:

Place the contents of the "levels" folder into NeoLemmix>levels
Place the contents of the "music" folder into NeoLemmix>music
Place the contents of the "Replay" folder into NeoLemmix>Replay
Place the contents of the "sound" folder into NeoLemmix>sound
Place the contents of the "styles" folder into NeoLemmix>styles (the style is available via the NeoLemmix Manager anyway, but here it is just in case!)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2020, 05:03:01 AM »
As a relatively-open first rank, none of the levels particularly stood out that much, but they were definitely good levels for such a rank.

The only exceptions are 13 and 15. I suggest replacing both.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2020, 05:43:00 AM »
Lemminas Records

* = indicates that this record is held by more than one player.

These records are correct as of the release of Lemminas V1.06. If you wish to submit a record, please make sure you have this version.

Rank#LevelFastest Time (Player)Most Saved (Player)Fewest Total Skills (Player)
Magical1Welcome The Lemminas1:31.35 (WillLem)16/16 (*)6 (*)
Magical2We Like To Dig Too0:15.00 (Proxima)8/8 (*)1 (*)
Magical3Mind The Gap...1:22.71 (WillLem)16/16 (*)10 (*)
Magical4Lemdon Bridge2:16.65 (WillLem)16/16 (*)11 (WillLem)
Magical5Lemmina Loop Prevention Service0:58.35 (WillLem)2/2 (*)8 (*)
Magical6Just Keep Swimming0:41.29 (*)2/2 (*)6 (*)
Magical7Lemminas Luv M.C. Escher0:59.53 (*)41/41 (*)2 (*)
Magical8Pyramids of Lem (Under a PepsiCola Sky)0:56.47 (WillLem)30/30 (*)11 (Proxima)
Magical9Send Them Soaring!0:38.94 (WillLem)16/16 (*)12 (*)
Magical10Just Shimmy!0:57.41 (WillLem)1/1 (*)5 (*)
Magical11I'll Go First...0:58.41 (WillLem)2/2 (*)8 (*)
Magical12Climbing In The Moonlight0:34.41 (WillLem)1/1 (*)4 (*)
Magical13Believe In Yourself!0:16.88 (*)1/1 (*)0 (*)
Magical14Lemminas Go Forth0:48.76 (WillLem)16/16 (*)16 (Proxima)
Magical15A Jumper Would Be Handy!1:36.65 (WillLem)1/1 (*)3/5 (*)
Magical16Revenge of the Ice Cream Monster1:49.29 (WillLem)8/8 (*)20 (*)

Rank#LevelFastest Time (Player)Most Saved (Player)Fewest Total Skills (Player)
Sensational1Worra Lorra Lemminas!2:23.12 (*)301/301 (*)5 (*)
Sensational2Dimples0:46.24 (WillLem)30/30 (*)4 (*)
Sensational3Backroute To The Future1:19.94 (Proxima)90/90 (*)5 (Proxima)
Sensational4Pillars of Venus1:40.41 (WillLem)16/16 (*)10 (kaywhyn)
Sensational5See You On The Other Side1:41.59 (WillLem)2/2 (*)11 (*)
Sensational6Hurry!1:25.18 (WillLem)2/2 (*)11 (Proxima)
Sensational7The Melting Block0:20.82 (WillLem)31/31 (*)7 (*)
Sensational8The Continuum2:22.82 (WillLem)8/8 (*)21 (Proxima)
Sensational9Delaying The Inevitable1:02.06 (DireKrow)16/16 (*)9 (*)
Sensational10The Strange Boutique0:47.18 (WillLem)4/4 (*)7 (DireKrow)
Sensational11The Refrigerator1:48.65 (WillLem)100/100 (*)15 (Armani)
Sensational12Falling Forever0:13.53 (*)3/3 (*)3 (*)
Sensational13The Unnecessarily Tall Pillars2:45.00 (WillLem)17/17 (*)9 (*)
Sensational14Race To The Top!1:11.76 (WillLem)2/2 (*)36 (DireKrow)
Sensational15Many Jumpers Would Be Handy!1:58.18 (WillLem)100/100 (*)12/32 (namida)
Sensational16Escape From Crystal Mountain3:25.00 (WillLem)17/17 (*)17 (WillLem)

Rank#LevelFastest Time (Player)Most Saved (Player)Fewest Total Skills (Player)
Tricksy1Who's Doing What?0:38.47 (WillLem)31/31 (*)12/13 (*)
Tricksy2Lemmina PepsiCola Research Event0:48.76 (WillLem)2/2 (*)8/10 (*)
Tricksy3The Milkshake Machine1:29.18 (WillLem)16/16 (*)6/29 (namida)
Tricksy4Konbanwa Lemmina-san1:18.65 (WillLem)30/30 (*)12/36 (namida)
Tricksy5Lemmina Drops1:25.94 (WillLem)16/16 (*)6/22 (WillLem)
Tricksy6Day of the Daredevils! Part III1:32.71 (WillLem)2/2 (*)7/8 (*)
Tricksy7Easy Peasy Lemmina Squeezy1:13.00 (WillLem)18/18 (*)10/13 (*)
Tricksy8Stainless Steel Lemminas0:31.88 (WillLem)16/16 (*)2/6 (*)
Tricksy9POOR WEE CREATURETTES1:13.53 (WillLem)33/33 (*)19/21 (Proxima)
Tricksy10Down The Rabbit Hole0:22.65 (WillLem)33/33 (*)8/65 (*)
Tricksy11Lemminas Recurring0:55.41 (WillLem)31/31 (*)6/12 (*)
Tricksy12Soda Streams2:04.94 (WillLem)3/3 (*)12/14 (*)
Tricksy13Nessy II2:42.18 (WillLem)4/4 (*)30/44 (DireKrow)
Tricksy14No I in Team0:44.76 (WillLem)8/8 (*)16/17 (Armani)
Tricksy15Just a Second...0:00.94 (*)5/5 (*)6/6 (*)
Tricksy16The Crystal Cobwebs of Mt. Katie1:27.06 (WillLem)100/100 (*)37/96 (namida)

Rank#LevelFastest Time (Player)Most Saved (Player)Fewest Total Skills (Player)
Pandemonium1Lemmina City Steel Facility1:16.29 (WillLem)101/101 (*)16/16 (*)
Pandemonium2Milkshake Party0:59.71 (WillLem)17/17 (*)14/17 (kaywhyn)
Pandemonium3Nightmare on Lem Street III1:15.94 (WillLem)100/100 (*)29/80 (DireKrow)
Pandemonium4Lemgate1:10.24 (Proxima)8/8 (*)9/12 (Proxima)
Pandemonium5The Cherry Cola Conundrum1:44.29 (WillLem)100/100 (*)18/25 (WillLem)
Pandemonium6L-PoP0:24.24 (WillLem)60/60 (*)10/28 (Direkrow)
Pandemonium7Falling Forever Part II0:43.76 (WillLem)31/31 (*)8/8 (*)
Pandemonium8Staircase to Nowhere III1:42.59 (WillLem)16/16 (*)38/119 (Armani)
Pandemonium9With a Twist of Lemmina Please0:52.88 (WillLem)32/32 (*)13/14 (*)
Pandemonium10I'll Just Wait Here, Shall I?1:44.29 (WillLem)301/301 (*)9/14 (*)
Pandemonium11Mary Poppins' Land II2:51.00 (WillLem)160/160 (*)12/12 (*)
Pandemonium12Erm...1:20.65 (WillLem)16/16 (*)7/10 (kaywhyn)
Pandemoniuml13Constellations II2:25.71 (Armani)4/4 (*)39/65 (Armani)
Pandemonium14Save Us0:37.00 (WillLem)30/30 (*)15/33 (*)
Pandemonium15Nothing is Impossible0:39.12 (WillLem)3/3 (WillLem)17/28 (kaywhyn)
Pandemonium16Rendezvous at the Mountain Part II1:22.88 (WillLem)33/33 (*)25/101 (DireKrow)

Other records/challenges for Lemminas:

Skills You Can't Live Without
Builders & Bashers Only
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2020, 07:58:11 AM »
I played first two ranks of the pack. :D
And I really want to make several levels using your new tileset for my future pack.
They are just SO beautiful!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:


My favorite levels are 'Hurry' and 'Race To The Top'!
Of course I like the all other levels too.
Attached zip file is my replays for first two ranks including all talisman except for Sensational16 Gold talisman.
I have 16 lemmings and 1 cloner in the level but the talisman says I have to save 31!
Is there any hidden cloner pick-up skills? or just your mistake?

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2020, 03:32:52 PM »
Thanks for the replays Namida, all intended solutions or decent alternatives and only 1 backroute which I'll fix in 1.01!

In response to your comments on 13 and 15:

Response to Namida's comments. (click to show/hide)

Looking forward to your replays for the rest of the pack! :thumbsup:

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I played first two ranks of the pack. :D
And I really want to make several levels using your new tileset for my future pack.
They are just SO beautiful!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Thanks! I look forward to seeing what levels you make with the tileset!

Attached zip file is my replays for first two ranks including all talisman except for Sensational16 Gold talisman.
I have 16 lemmings and 1 cloner in the level but the talisman says I have to save 31!
Is there any hidden cloner pick-up skills? or just your mistake?

It's a genuine mistake: if you want to you can edit the level's talisman in the meantime so it says to save 17 instead!

I'll be providing a set of fixed levels in version 1.01 once I get a list of initial issues, this being one of them. That'll probably come later this week.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2020, 05:55:35 PM »
On the subject of talismans - if you really do want to keep level 13, there's no reason you need to specify "save 1" as a talisman requirement there (since that's the same as the level's save requirement). Just have no requirements at all, and the talisman will simply be for "complete the level".
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2020, 04:37:35 AM »
Okay so, on to the first half of the second rank.

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Also - regarding your response to my comments on level 13 of the first rank...

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« Last Edit: March 10, 2020, 04:50:10 AM by namida »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2020, 08:59:18 AM »
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I feel obliged to mention that I pointed both of these out during testing, so that people don't think I overlooked them :P

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2020, 10:48:24 AM »
Solved tricksy rank.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2020, 01:47:05 PM »
Lol, nice idea, WillLem! :thumbsup: I've been hoping for someone to transfer the (female) Lix sprites to NeoLemmix, but the main obstacle to that obviously would have been the different skill types, specifically those that NeoLemmix has but Lix doesn't (the other way round wouldn't have been a problem, and especially the Lix Jumper could have been saved for later).

But this is a valid alternative! ;)

So you've added a new gender, and I've added a new skin tone with my Egyptian sprites (L2 Beach also counts, I guess).

Back then I joked about "diversity" in Lemmings; now it seems like you took that joke seriously... :D

To be fair, though, the new recolouring option makes the creation of new sprites easier than ever. So especially for "geography levels", as I like to create them, it would be kind of cool to have the lemmings in a given level look a bit more like the inhabitants of the area that level is supposed to represent.

Congrats, now you've made me think about what Asian lemmings should look like... :D (Armani, you're South-Korean, any suggestions? ;) )
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2020, 12:00:01 AM »
On the subject of talismans - if you really do want to keep level 13, there's no reason you need to specify "save 1" as a talisman requirement there (since that's the same as the level's save requirement). Just have no requirements at all, and the talisman will simply be for "complete the level".

Thanks, good shout: I'll implement this change in V1.01.



Really loving the response on this pack so far everyone. Keep these replays coming, I'm looking at making a full set of fixes in 1.01; turns out there's plenty to do already! :lemcat:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2020, 12:22:08 AM »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2020, 12:28:05 AM »
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I completely agree that backroute blocking should be fair and visible. But what if the intention is for a player to use the backroute and find a hidden object? I'd rather do this than block the backroute - the backroute was put there on purpose, hence the title!

I'll put up a poll and see what the response is. If people are really against it I'll fix it in V1.01.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2020, 01:12:25 AM »
Lol, nice idea, WillLem! :thumbsup:
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Back then I joked about "diversity" in Lemmings; now it seems like you took that joke seriously... :D

Thanks, Strato!

Haha, to be honest the diversity thing never even entered my mind. I had it pointed it out to me by a friend when we were talking about it, and I guess the pack could certainly be seen in that light. Interesting that it's been picked up on...

As much positivity as this pack can generate is fine by me! Enjoy it in whatever way you wish. :thumbsup:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemminas (64 Levels) [Difficulty: Very Easy - Hard]
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2020, 08:15:51 AM »
And here're replays of Pandemonium rank and some comments. :D
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Neither yourself nor Namida used the Disarmer in Pyramids Of Lem...?
He built over the trap, you mined out the trigger... do people not like using the Disarmer?
Or did you just see it as an extra challenge?
Oh I just overlooked that I do have a disarmer. In most of the level I played so far, I just bypass traps using destructive skills or constructive skills or just sacrificed some lemmings. And without thinking, I did so again in that level. And yes, using disarmer to disarm the trap looks most natural. :)
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I'm thinking of doing a mini-pack of mini-levels, would you be interested in a collaboration on this?
Sure! Of course! My pleasure :D I love mini levels!
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Sweet! Post a picture of her on the Cute Tribe in Discord.
Okay. Will do that when I go back to my house next time :thumbsup:



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Congrats, now you've made me think about what Asian lemmings should look like... :D (Armani, you're South-Korean, any suggestions? ;) )
Hmm I have to think about what appearance related features of asian are.
Without much thinking, I quickly draw an asian lemming using Painter ;)
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  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]