Lemmings Packs I have Beaten, Currently Playing, and Thinking of Playing

[kaywhyn]

As a follow-up to my lemmings history post, this post will keep track of three separate level pack lists: packs I have beaten (green), packs I'm currently playing through (blue), and packs I haven't played yet (red). The number in parenthesis after the name of each list indicates the total number of packs I have listed. For the lists, I'm simply going through Wafflem's stickied list of level packs he made on the list of levels in the Neolemmix board. Obviously there's way more packs out there than just the ones on his list, but if I list every single one I'll never be done. I'm only going to be making lists for Lemmini, Superlemmini, Dos, and Neolemmix, as I have no intention to play any packs on any other platform. For each engine, the number in parenthesis after the name of the engine indicates the number of packs I have listed for the engine. Each engine first lists the author followed by the name of the pack. The number in parenthesis after the author's name indicates the number of packs by the author I have listed, not necessarily the total number of packs the author has released. The number of packs for each engine for each of the three lists is then added to get a total number for each list. Keeping lists is a personal thing of mine that I like to do, and I think this is also me, but I like seeing things crossed out on a list as they're completed. Given there's so many level packs, I think these lists are a great way for me to personally see how much overall progress I have made, as well as a great way for record bookkeeping and to keep organized. For packs I'm currently playing and eventually beat, I'll either strike them out or move them to the completed list. I haven't decided what I'll do with that yet.

edit: For now, for in-progress packs I complete, I'm going to do both a strikethrough of the level pack name in the in-progress list and move the beaten pack to the "completed" list.

Level Packs I Have 100% Completed (122)

Dos (5)

Mazu (1) - Mazulems

ssam1221 (3) - KillerMaster's ver. 1, KillerMaster's ver. 2, and ssam1221's Lemmings (although I recall one of the levels in I think ver. 2 freezing completely during play and so I haven't completed it, perhaps due to hidden steel around the marble exits

namida (1) - Lemmings Plus Dos (mostly completed, 148/150, only two levels I haven't solved, one of which was replaced by a different level in later versions because it was way too difficult to execute. I know the solutions to the two levels, just couldn't bother to execute them)


Lemmini (15)

Icho (1) - Lemmings Reunion

Dodochacalo (4) - Dovelems, Cachapack, Dodopack, and Franlems

Pieuw (1) - Pimolems

Mobius (1) - Mobilems

Pacguy765 (6) - Lemmings 2: The Tribes Classic Remakes, ONML Extra rank, and Pacguy765's Challenge Packs (Pack 1, 2, 3, and 4)

Tim (1) - Fox Lemmings

Mikau (1) - Mikau's Pack 1
 

Superlemmini (8)

Colorful Arty (2) - Reverse Lemmings and Sublems

exit (2) - Exit's Superlemmini Pack 1 and Pack 2

Prince Jamie (2) - Prince Jamie's Super Challenge Set 1 and Set 2

Zanzindorf (2) - Zanzindorf's Special Pack 1 and Zanzindorf's Vol 1


In short, I have pretty much completed all packs made for Superlemmini.


Lemmix (6)

Deceit (1) - Deceit's Lemmings

exit (4) cLemmings, ONMcLemmings, Holiday cLemmings, and cLUE (cLemmings Ultimate Edition)

Minim (1) - Holiday Lemmings 1995


Neolemmix v1.43 (8)

Giga (4) - Resident Gigalems (came back to play on 11/15/20 to get replays since I didn't have any last time), Resident Gigalems 0 (came back to play on 11/18/20 for the same reason, for replays), Gigalems (came back to play on 11/21/20 for the same reason, for replays), and Holiday Gigalems 2015 (v1.43 started 12/10/20, completed and added to "completed" list 12/11/20, FlexiTool version started and completed 12/11/20, but I count both v1.43 and FlexiTool versions as just 1 pack since they're the exact same, just in different formats)

Essman (1) - Copycat (came back to this pack 11/13/20 to play it again so that I have my own set of replays which I didn't have the last time I played months ago due to not having the setting to automatically save successful replays enabled [complete replay set 11/14/20])

Strato (1) - Lemmicks

namida (1) - namida's Recycle Bin pack (started playing 11/27/20, finished 12/2/20 and added to "completed" list 12/2/20)

Gigalem (1) Gigalem's Holiday 2015 (started playing 12/10/20, finished 12/11/20 and added to "completed" list 12/22/20)


Neolemmix v1.47D (1)

AlbirdVampprince (1) - AlbirdVampprince's Pack


Neolemmix v10.12.12-C (1)

Gigalem (1) - Gigalem's Holiday 2016 (note this is for v10.12.12-C, thanks to eric who had this NL player. Pack loads fine in 10.13.18, but two levels crash due to complaining that it can't load kiwi.dat, which probably means the tileset wasn't updated to the latest Old Formats NL version; started 12/20/20, completed 12/21/20, added to "completed" list 12/21/20)


Neolemmix v10.13 (17)

Duuddu (2) - A Master's Degree in Lemmings and An Unnamed Level Pack

bsmith (1) - B Smith Level Pack One

nin10doadict (1) - Lemmings Squared

Raymanni (1) - Raylems 

SQron188 (1) - Snack Pack

Yung (1) - Yung's First Level Pack

bulletride (1) - Lemmings Stampede (added to "completed" list 5/31/20)

Flopsy & Wafflem (1) - MegSEBytes (started playing 6/6/20, added to "completed" list 6/10/20)

Wafflems (1) - Lemmingbytes (started playing 6/17/20, added to "completed" list 6/23/20)

Geoffster (1) - GeoffLems (started playing 10/29/20, added to "completed" list 11/3/20)

strato (3) - Paralems (added to "completed" list on 9/24/20), Pit Lems (added to "completed" list on 9/30/20), LWT Old Formats (added to "completed" list 11/24/20)
Note: I just realized I had this under the wrong NL version on the completed list, so of course I moved it. Now it's under NL Old Formats (v10.13.8)

Colorful Arty (1) - Sublems Old Formats version (started and completed 12/10/20, added to "completed" list 12/10/20)

Crane (1) - Holiday 2016 (started and completed 12/22/20, added to "completed" list 12/22/20)

Gigalem (1) - Holiday Gigalems 2017 (started 11/26/21, completed 11/29/21, added to "completed" list 12/3/21) 


Neolemmix v12.8.2 (1)

WillLem (1) - Tame Gone Wild


Neolemmix v12.9.3 (60)

Icho (1) - Lemmings United (added to "completed" list on 9/7/20, pack 100% resolved with all solutions accepted 10/12/20)

namida (10) - Lemmings Alpha Plus (added to "completed" list on 9/20/20), Doomsday Lemmings (started playing 11/9/20, completed 11/12/20 and added to "completed" list 11/13/20), Lemmings Plus 1 (started playing 12/12/20, completed and added to "completed" list 12/14/20), Lemmings Plus 2 (started playing 2/26/21, completed and added to "completed" list 3/1/21), Lemmings Plus 3 (started playing 8/3/21, completed 8/7/21 and added to "completed" list 8/8/21), Holiday Lemmings Plus (started playing 12/5/21, completed 12/5/21, and added to "completed" list 12/14/21), and Lemmings Plus Omega (started playing 12/5/21, completed 12/13/21 and added to "completed" list 12/14/21), Lemmings Plus IV (started 4/18/22, completed 4/24/22, added to "completed" list 4/28/22), Lemmings Plus V (started 8/24/22, completed 8/31/22, added to "completed" list 9/5/22), and LPOII (started 3/31/23, completed 4/8/23 and added to "completed" list 4/19/23)

Geoffster (1) - GeoffLems (just used my Old Formats replays and updated 7 of the replays that didn't work for New Formats - I might do brand new solutions down the road, but this is good enough for the time being)

Nessy (2) - Lemmings Migration (started playing 11/4/20, completed and added to "completed" list 11/8/20), Lemmings Destination (started playing 7/23/21, completed and added to "completed" list 7/28/21)

Niesch (2) - Yippee! More Lemmings (started playing 12/2/20, completed and added to "completed" list 12/4/20) and Long Live Lemmings! (started playing 9/7/21, completed and added to "completed" list 9/9/21)

mantha16 (2) - Sammings 1 (started playing 12/4/20, completed and added to "completed" list 12/4/20) and Sammings 2 (started playing 9/14/22, completed 9/16/22 and added to "completed" list 10/1/22)

WillLem (4) - Lemminas (started playing 12/5/20, completed and added to "completed" list 12/7/20), Inverse Lemmings (started 9/20/21, completed and added to the "completed" list 9/21/21), FestiveLems (started 4/11/22, completed 4/12/22 and added to the "completed" list 4/13/22), and Lemminas II (started 4/15/23, completed 4/18/23 and added to "completed" list 4/19/23)

Colorful Arty (2) - Sublems New Formats NL version (started playing 12/7/20, completed and added to "completed" list 12/10/20), and Artlems v1.3 (started playing 2/15/21, completed and added to "completed" list 2/18/21)

Clam (1) - Clammings (converted to New Formats NL by mobius and Wafflem, started playing 12/15/20, completed and added to "completed" list 12/18/20)

grams88 (2) - Nuked Lems (started 12/22/20, completed and added to "completed" list 12/24/20), Ski Sloping Lemmings (started 8/27/21, completed 8/29/21 and added to "completed" list 8/30/21)

Flopsy (3) - SEB Lems NL New Formats (started 12/24/20, completed and added to "completed" list 1/22/21), Modular Lems (started 3/6/21, completed 3/7/21 and added to "completed" list 3/10/21), and MegSEGAbytes (started 9/12/21, completed 9/17/21 and added to "completed" list 9/18/21)

integral of tan x dx (4) - Renaissance Lemmings (started 9/14/20, completed 3/7/21 and added to "completed" list 3/10/21), LemRunner (pack by tan x and Dexter: started 4/10/21, completed and added to "completed" list 7/1/21), Integral Lemmings (started 9/2/21, completed 9/5/21, added to "completed" list 9/6/21), and All Hallow's Eve (started 10/30/21, completed and added to "completed" list 11/3/21)

Gronkling (1) - GAP 1: Rodents (started 3/3/21, completed 3/9/21 and added to "completed" list 3/10/21)

David (1) - The Lemmings Have Grown (started 3/15/21, completed and added to "completed" list 3/23/21)

Duuddu (3) - Godlems (started 3/11/21 (my 32nd birthday, completed 3/21/21, added to "completed" list 3/23/21), Surge Lemmings (started 4/28/21, completed 4/28/21 and added to "completed" list 6/23/23), and Unusual Lemmings (started 5/30/23, completed 5/31/23 and added to "completed" list 6/23/23)

Deceit (1) - Deceit's Lemmings (started 3/26/21, completed 3/27/21, added to "completed" list 3/31/21)

SQron188 (1) - Assorted Gubbins (started 3/28/21, completed 3/29/21, added to "completed" list 3/31/21)

Gigalem (3) - Festival Millas 2018 (started 7/30/21, completed and added to "completed" list 8/1/21), Festival Millas 2019 (started 4/3/22, completed 4/6/22, added to "completed" list 4/8/22), and Festival Millas 2020 (started 6/1/23, completed 6/10/23 and added to "completed" list 6/23/23)

Insane Steve (1) - Insane Steve's World (started 8/16/21, completed 8/22/21 and added to "completed" list 8/23/21)

Armani (1) - Lemmings Uncharted (started 9/24/21, completed 10/24/21 and added to "completed" list 10/25/21)

Martin Zurlinden (1) - Mazulems (converted to New Formats NL by mobius and namida) (started 11/11/21, completed and added to "completed" list 11/12/21)

Turrican (2) - Mike's Lemmings (started 12/15/21, completed 12/18/21 and added to "completed" list 12/18/21) and Mike's Lemmings Version 2 (Rigel rank, started 5/11/23, completed 6/14/23 and added to "completed" list 6/23/23)

Strato (1) - Lemmings World Tour New Formats (started 12/20/21, completed 12/29/21 and added to "completed" list 12/30/21)

Apjjm (1) - Lemmings Quartet (started 3/5/22, completed 3/6/22, and added to "completed" list 3/7/22)

zanzindorf (1) - Zemmings Complete (started 3/9/22, completed 3/13/22 and added to "completed" list 3/13/22)

Crane (1) - Lemmings Cranium Preview - Challenge Rank (started 4/14/22, completed 4/16/22 and added to "completed" list 4/18/22)

mobius (1) - Mobilems 2022 (started 6/22/22, completed 6/30/22 and added to "completed" list 7/4/22)

Raymanni (Ryemanni) (1) - Lemmings Halloween 2017 (started 10/15/22, completed 10/17/22 and added to "completed" list 10/19/22)

Master88 (1) - Master88's custom neolevels (started 11/24/22, completed 11/28/22 and added to "completed" list 12/12/22)

nin10doadict (1) - Casualemmings 2.0 (started 12/3/22, completed 12/11/22 and added to "completed" list 12/12/22)

kieran (1) - Quest From Kieran (started 4/24/23, completed 5/6/23 and added to "completed" list 5/8/23)

NL community (1) - Revenge of the Lemmings New Formats NL (started 12/16/22, completed 5/1/23 and added to "completed" list 5/8/23)

weirdybeardy (1) - Lemmings in Weirdyland (started 5/9/23, completed 5/10/23 and added to "completed" list 6/23/23)

 

Packs I'm Currently Playing (3)

Neolemmix v10.13 (1)

bulletride - Lemmings Stampede

nin10doadict (1) - Casualemmings (finished Perky rank 1/27/21 and haven't continued since)

Wafflem - Lemmingbytes

Strato (1) - Paralems (added to list 9/22/20), Pit Lems (added to list 9/24/20), LWT (Old Formats, added to list 9/30/20)


Lemmini (1)

various authors (1) - Revenge of the Lemmings (finally solved Bonus 25 a few months ago, now stuck on Bonus 26)


In short, except for RotL, I have pretty much completed all packs made for Lemmini.


Neolemmix v12.9.2 (2)

Icho (1) - Lemmings United (currently on Genocide 37)

Nepster (1) - Nepsterlems (currently stuck on Black Hole 1)

namida's (1) - Lemmings Alpha Plus

tan x dx (1) - Renaissance Lemmings (currently stuck on level 3 - Bombing Run)

Packs I'm Thinking of Playing (14)

Neolemmix v10.13 (0)

Flopsy and Wafflem - MegSEBytes

Strato (3) - Paralems, Pitlems, and Lemmings World Tour


Neolemmix v12.9.2 (14)

Flopsy (1) - SEB Lems

Flopsy and Wafflem (1) - MegSEGAbytes

Wafflem (1) - Wafflems(?) 

mobius (2) - Mobilems 2 and mobilems 3

namida (9) -  Lemmings Plus series starting at 2, Lemmings Omega series, Holiday Plus, and Lemmings Alpha

Strato (1) - Lemmings World Tour


I'll probably eventually play the other packs not on Wafflem's list that are on the level boards that I didn't list, but the ones listed here are the ones that I'm certain that I will play.   

Also, suggestions are welcome for how I could maybe make the lists better looking. I initially did the level packs in spoilers, with only the name of the engine visible, but I later discarded that, as I really want everyone here to be able to see the level pack names without them being hidden in spoiler tags. Especially with how I have plenty of engines listed it's annoying to click through all of them to reveal the level packs I have listed under each one. This is the best I've managed to come up with for the time being.

[WillLem]

This is a great idea kaywhyn, I love lists and record-keeping as well.

If you're looking for a more presentable format, maybe a table would suit? Tables take a little bit of figuring out format-wise, but they do look great.

Here's an example table, feel free to copy and paste if you like the idea (for anyone: press "Quote" at the top right of this post and then copy the html if you want to use this):

Header A	Header B	Header C	Header D
Value A1	Value B1	Value C1	Value D1
Value A2	Value B2	Value C2	Value D2
Value A3	Value B3	Value C3	Value D3

[kaywhyn]

I've done it. I've finally beaten Lemmings Stampede. Wow, what an excellent pack! bulletride did a really great job.  I must say, there is a huge jump in difficulty once you get to the Wild rating and it stays that way for the rest of the pack. Wild 1 immediately stumped me big time, but imo the solution is wonderful. I had no problems with Tame or Crazy.  Wild was difficult, but not as much as much as Wicked or Havoc. Surprisingly, Wicked 5 - No Bones was the major roadblock for me and remained unsolved for a little over a month. Interestingly enough, my solution is completely different from Icho's and another forum member, josh, where both of theirs are the same. I initially did think of taking the path they took, but I wasn't able to think through it correctly in my head. Now that I've watched their replays for the level, I feel very dumb for not seeing it! The path I took was through the huge mound of dirt instead of building twice across the water gap at the top. Mine involves interrupting a miner midstroke with a builder, and my solution would had failed had I not been able to seal off the path going back to the left on the bottom before the water gap. There is only one spot that works, and if that spot didn't work then I would had been stuck even longer. Once I finally solved Wicked 5, the remainder of the rating was actually easy. However, the entire Havoc rating was very difficult, as all the levels in there were really hard, except for Havoc 4 - Afterthought (part 2). I felt part 2 was much easier than the first Afterthought, which is Wild 10.

In any case, it felt very satisfying to beat all the really difficult levels in the Wild, Wicked, and Havoc ratings on my own, even if I ended up overcomplicating some of them compared to Icho's or vice versa. I have edited the OP to reflect the fact that I've now completed Lemmings Stampede. Now, back to either Casualemmings or Lemmings United for me to make further progress on!

[geoo]

I was just wondering, because I loosely remember from your introduction post that you enjoy the classic Lemmings experience: Are you aware of Cheapo lemmings?
It's a lemmings engine that was quite popular before the Lemmix times. It only features the classic 8 skills, and I think the only special object that behaves differently from traps is an antigravity object (and rarely any level ever uses it). There is support for custom styles, and there is a replay feature akin to WinLemm, but other than that I don't think it has many fancy features. The title screen might be a bit of a turn off at the beginning, but the gameplay feels very classic and a lot of excellent levels have been made for this engine.

The download is available in this post. The website only has a few levels, but if you're interested I can dig out a few nice level packs from my hard disk.

[namida]

I think the only special object that behaves differently from traps is an antigravity object (and rarely any level ever uses it)

It also had teleporters, and (anti-)splat pads.

I'll also note, Cheapo runs very poorly on modern PCs (not just super-new, but pretty much anything that's made in the last 10-15 years). That's a big reason it fell out of use.

[kaywhyn]

I was just wondering, because I loosely remember from your introduction post that you enjoy the classic Lemmings experience: Are you aware of Cheapo lemmings?
It's a lemmings engine that was quite popular before the Lemmix times. It only features the classic 8 skills, and I think the only special object that behaves differently from traps is an antigravity object (and rarely any level ever uses it). There is support for custom styles, and there is a replay feature akin to WinLemm, but other than that I don't think it has many fancy features.

Hey geoo, yes, I have heard of Cheapo lemmings, but I have never tried it out. I don't know too much about it, but I believe I've already played a level pack that was originally for Cheapo that got converted over to Neolemmix by namida. It's only compatible with 1.43n. I think the only feature that I was aware when I was playing through the pack is the much larger splat distance, falls where the lemmings will definitely splat in Neolemmix but are survivable in Cheapo.

In any case, I think I won't really be giving Cheapo a try anytime soon. I always have lemmini, superlemmini, and lemmix if I want to go back to the classical style of playing lemmings. I stayed with these 3 for at least 5 years before I finally took a dip and gave Neolemmix a try last year. Thanks for telling me about Cheapo, though!

[kaywhyn]

Another update to the OP. Having completed MegSEBytes for Old Formats, i.e, v10.13 or earlier, but not entirely completed (see 3rd paragraph below) in New Formats, I have reached the milestone of completing 50 packs! Halfway to 100!

Another change is in the third list of packs that I'm thinking of playing, I corrected the misspelling of Flopsy's and Wafflem's 2nd collab pack from "MegSEBytes" to MegSEGAbytes. The former is a collab pack by Flopsy and Wafflem and is now part of Flopsy's SEB Lem pack as a rank, which features 18 of the 30 levels, while the other 12 are in the main ranks. Although it's mostly obselete, it's a 30 level pack still available for download and playable for Old Formats Neolemmix. The latter is also a Flopsy and Wafflem collab pack and is the sequel to the former pack. So, while the packs are related in a way due to being a series made by the same two authors, the packs are not the same. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who consistently gets the two confused, as the level pack names differ only by two letters!

So, why mostly completed? Because there's two levels in the New Formats version of the MegSEBytes rank in SEB Lems that weren't part of the original MegSEBytes pack in Old Formats. However, it's going to be a while before I get to those two levels of the MegSEBytes rank of SEB Lems, since I don't like skipping around in level packs and prefer to play levels in order. Not to mention that I haven't started playing SEB Lems yet! So, while I have beaten the MegSEBytes pack completely for Old Formats, the rank itself in SEB Lems is not entirely completed in New Formats because of those two exclusive levels. In addition, there might had been some backroute fixes in the meantime, so the levels might be slightly different in New Formats.

Finally, I have added three packs to the third list: Flopsy's and Wafflem's MegSEBytes for v10.13 (probably should had been part of the list originally, but at the time of the OP I thought I would just play it when I get to Seblems, and so wasn't in the list).  and Wafflem's packs Lemmingbytes and Wafflems. The v10.13 MegSEBytes pack was added 6/10/20, and I started playing it 6/6/20, but it has now been struck out and added to the packs completed list. The reason for the question mark for Wafflems is because I'm not sure if the pack is available anywhere. Flopsy has some videos of a playthrough of the pack on Youtube, but I understand that I would have to contact Wafflem to ask for the pack. Only problem is that he hasn't been on the forums since late 2018!

[kaywhyn]

Another pack completed: Lemmingbytes. This total is now 51 packs I have completed. I like how the ranks are units of measure that refer to computer data and ranked in the correct order, starting with the smallest unit of byte, then kilobyte, then megabyte, then gigabyte, and finally terabyte, the largest unit out of all of them. Bits are a similar unit that also measure computer data transmission, except it's expressed in binary, i.e, 0's and 1's. Now, 1 byte = 8 bits, and notice that 8 = 2³. Even the total number of levels in the pack, 128, is a number you often see when dealing with computers, as in 128-bit encryption, and also notice that 128 = 2⁷. Thus, the number of bits you often find can always be expressed as powers of 2. We most commonly see 32-bit (2⁵) and 64-bit (2⁶), both which refer to the architecture of the computer hardware. Most computer machines are 64-bit these days. I think the very first laptop I ever owned was 32-bit, but it was 64-bit capable, as the system information in the control panel verified.

As a whole, this was a great pack which is much easier than some of the packs I recently completed. I breezed through the first 3 ranks with little difficulty, but the difficulty started picking up a lot starting with the penultimate rank, the Gigabyte rank. The last two ranks had some really great challenges that managed to stump me for some time, but I ultimately was able to conquer all of them and thus finish the pack. As a matter of fact, I haven't completed a pack of over 100 levels that is more on the easy side in a really long time, not since I completed Sublems on Superlemmini a few years ago.  For the Gigabyte rank, my favorites were Level 11 - Circular Circus, Level 19 - Splash Mountain, and the rank finisher, Level 26 - Culture Shock. The hardest one for me in that rank was Level 16 - Tightbeam Ship. I struggled with finding a way to build up and get to the ship, but after a time I realized that the thrusters had solid terrain that I could build to. Then the rest was easy. I always thought that terrain where traps are were non-solid, just like the traps themselves are, but now I know.

Even the 26 terabyte levels weren't a huge struggle at all. I really liked a lot of the levels in that rank. In particular, my most favorite one of the rank was 17 - Storming the Drains. It's an excellent puzzle that really had me thinking but I really loved how the solution all came together in the end. Other favorites of mine from the rank were Level 1 - With Your Nose So Bright, Level 2 - Sea Stacks, Level 11 - Doorway to Nowhere, and Level 22 - Seeing Red. The hardest one for me in that rank was probably 21 - T=0K, which I noticed that Icho was listed as a collaborator on the preview screen, the same one who made Reunion and United, and so I expected the level to be difficult, and indeed it was. The main challenge was finding a path through all the obstacles and seeing where I could conserve the destructive and constructive skills whenever possible. Level 12 - Do you Like Wafflems? I say was probably a second close in difficulty, but as it turns out I took a completely different route than Icho did in his video solution of the level, one which I self-inflicted way too much precision. Even the rank finisher managed to stump me for a time, but it's a really nice puzzle for the final level of the pack.

Overall, I really enjoyed the pack. Great job, Wafflem! I played this pack in the hopes of possibly finding the "certain trick" that I need that Icho told me for the level I'm currently stuck on in United, but I don't think I have hit upon it in any of the levels of the final rank of Wafflem's pack. Perhaps it's in another pack of his. In any case, I have updated the OP accordingly and added Lemmingbytes to the completion list. A few days ago, I was going to announce that I started playing Lemmingbytes, but I decided to wait until I had finished the pack. Instead, I edited the OP and moved Lemmingbytes from the list of packs I'm thinking of playing to the currently playing list. Now it's been struck through and also added to the completed list.

[Strato Incendus]

Congratulations on beating Lemmingbytes! I just wanted to provide a quick correction to your starting post:

Strato (4) - Paralems, Pitlems, and Lemmings World Tour (old and new formats)

You've listed all of these under "NeoLemmix v12.9.2". Just note that from these, only Lemmings World Tour is available for both Old and New Formats thus far.

Pit Lems I am still in the process of converting - this takes longer because I add in a select few levels from Paralems and Pit Lems to replace the radiation- and slowfreeze levels in Pit Lems. Beyond that, the ranks in the New-Formats version are going to have 30 levels each instead of 20 like in Old-Formats, so that "Pit Lems Remastered" will be longer overall, serving sort-of like a best-of of my first three packs.

As a consequence, however, Paralems will not be converted to New Formats. If you want to take a look at it, feel free to do so, of course! Just don't expect too much in terms of fair and purely mechanical challenges, and be aware that it only exists in Old Formats.

[kaywhyn]

Strato (4) - Paralems, Pitlems, and Lemmings World Tour (old and new formats)

You've listed all of these under "NeoLemmix v12.9.2". Just note that from these, only Lemmings World Tour is available for both Old and New Formats thus far.

Thanks for pointing this out. Indeed, I think I have realized this error at some point and had been meaning to correct this, but I keep forgetting to. Not sure why it has taken this long for me to. Thanks for reminding me.

edit: done!

[namida]

starting with the smallest unit of byte, then kilobyte, then megabyte, then gigabyte, and finally terabyte, the largest unit out of all of them.

I'll mention that while LemmingBytes may stop there, units don't. 1024 TB makes a PB (petabyte). 1024 of those is an exabyte, 1024 of those a zettabyte, and 1024 of those a yottabyte. I beleive that's as high as prefixes exist for, unless there's some rule for combining prefixes to make even bigger ones (which wouldn't actually surprise me).

These same prefixes also apply to any other unit that uses the "kilo", "mega", "giga" etc prefixes, too, although in those cases it's usually 1000 rather than 1024. (If you want to get really technical - 1024 rather than 1000, for bytes, is denoted by a slightly different prefix. In practice, most people use them interchangeably.)

[kaywhyn]

Yes, you're absolutely right about there being bigger units than the terabyte, namida. It just so happens that Wafflem started with the base unit of byte and ordered the ranks correctly from smallest to largest, where he stopped at terabyte. All the ones you mentioned after the terabyte are ones I never heard of, so this is informative. Thanks for this. Quite honestly, even if computer manufacturers ever release bigger hard drives than the terabyte, I don't think anyone would ever be able to fill up a 1 petabyte hard drive in a lifetime. This is just way too much space. Not to mention what I imagine would be an extremely hefty cost, which I'm thinking several tens of thousands of dollars, especially if it's an SSD! Heck, other than my dad I don't even know anyone who has a 2 terabyte hard drive or bigger, and currently his is not even half full!

The second paragraph is also correct. That's because the other units that use the same kilo, mega, giga, etc. prefixes are metric units, which is based on powers of 10, which is why 1000 is used, while the units that use the byte and bit are usually expressed in binary, or powers of 2, which is what computers use, and that's where 1024 comes in, and it so happens that 1024 = 2¹⁰.

I'm almost certain that there are prefixes beyond yotta. Even if there isn't currently, these units will eventually get names. In the meantime, one can have fun and come up with interesting unofficial names bigger than the yottabyte.

[Proxima]

I'm almost certain that there are prefixes beyond yotta. Even if there isn't currently, these units will eventually get names. In the meantime, one can have fun and come up with interesting unofficial names bigger than the yottabyte.

Mega- and giga- come from words meaning "large" and "giant", but from tera- upwards the prefixes are based on Greek numerical prefixes (tetra, penta, hexa, hepta, octa) with fudges to distance themselves from their numerical origin, make them snappier to pronounce, and give each one a unique starting letter that can be used as the abbreviation. The next prefix up, then, should fudge "ennea" and should start with X. "xena-" comes to mind, or perhaps "xenna-" to prevent confusion with the prefix "xeno-".

[kaywhyn]

That's great analysis there, Proxima. I certainly didn't notice the connections of the prefixes of the units to the numerical prefixes before, but that's because anything past terabyte I have never heard of and therefore am completely unfamiliar with them. Haha the last two units namida mentioned happen to be Z and Y, and so it makes sense to have the next official name be one that starts with X. Of course, it doesn't have to. At the same time, starting with terabyte the first letters of the bigger units have been going backwards: From T to P, then E, then Z, then Y. Z and Y happen to be consecutive letters in the alphabet, but the rest before them aren't, and so the next one after the Y unit doesn't have to be X. Still, I like your idea of a name. The best I can probably think of is superxenabyte. Yea, I know, I'm not so good when it comes to making up names of my own. Can't blame me for trying, though lol.

[kaywhyn]

Well, it's been a while since I have updated my progress on various level packs here. However, if you been following along with my posts the last several months on the forum, you'll know that I've been and am currently playing through the pack Lemmings United. It's been nearly a year after I started playing the pack, but as of now I have officially beaten 200 levels, all in order, in the main pack! Thus, I'm down to the final 5 levels of the Genocide rank. There's still a bonus rank of 30 levels afterwards, but right now I'm extremely close to the end of the main pack.

There's 41 levels in each main rank, which means I'm currently at Genocide 37, supposedly the hardest level in all of the pack based on discussions I read all over the forums. That worries me greatly, but let's see how long it manages to stump me once I start my attempts.

Truthfully, I thought I never get this far in the pack. As good as I am and can be when it comes to solving levels in Lemmings, it was definitely a huge and long struggle to have beaten 200 levels. This pack is touted as a very hard pack, but save for a few levels that really stumped me good, a lot of them I didn't find so bad. In fact, when I finally reached the Genocide rank last month, around the second week of July, I constantly had fears that the rank would be too hard for me and hence the pack would finally beat me. Indeed, the first level of the rank managed to amplify that fear, as it was still a no solve after a couple of hours that evening. Nevertheless, I kept coming back and managed to finally get past it. There were other levels in the rank I struggled greatly with, but not as many as I thought there would be.

With this, with only 5 main levels remaining, since I'm so close to the very end, I definitely plan to get through the rest of the pack. It may have taken me 11 months to get this far in the pack, but I've come too far to possibly stop now. For comparison, in 2017 Reunion took me 3 months to beat, and that was on Lemmini! Wish me luck!

[kaywhyn]

It has finally been done! Including the Bonus rank, I have officially solved all 238 levels of United. I have edited the OP to reflect this by striking out United from the currently playing list and adding it to the completed list. With this, United is now officially the largest level pack I have completed to date. Before this, Strato's Lemmicks was the largest pack I have completed at 170 levels, but before I finished that Icho's other pack Reunion was the largest pack I finished at 150 levels. Technically, the largest pack completed should had gone to Lemmini's version of Revenge of the Lemmings, but I'm still stuck on Bonus 25, with 5 more levels after that, and so I can't say it's the biggest pack I've completed.

All that remains is for me to go back and resolve the new versions of 4 Genocide levels and then I'll finally be done. However, having played almost nothing but United for the past several months, I am completely burnt out. So, I think what I'll do is take a break from United for a few days before coming back to resolve them.

Fun Fact: I started solving United on September 7, 2019. Today is September 7, 2020, so it took me exactly 1 year to solve all of United. It's important to note that this was very likely due to two things: The fact that Neutrality 41 managed to stump me good for 4 months, as well as how I've been out of a job since my home state of California closed down back in March and I have remained jobless to this day. Otherwise, had I been working the last several months, I probably would only be in the War rank around this time.

[WillLem]

 

It has finally been done! Including the Bonus rank, I have officially solved all 238 levels of United.

Well done Kaywhyn! From what I understand, this is one of the most difficult packs on the forum!

[kaywhyn]

Well done Kaywhyn! From what I understand, this is one of the most difficult packs on the forum!

Thanks a bunch, WillLem! I believe the assessment that United is the most difficult pack there currently is is quite accurate. Alpha Plus might be up there with United, but I'm only on the second level, so I'm not sure.

[kaywhyn]

Currently jumping around a lot between packs. I'm currently stuck on the first level of the final rank, Black Hole, of Nepsterlems, so as much as I would had loved to finish up this pack first before moving to other packs, I'm taking a break from it. I also started playing Renaissance Lemmings, which I thought would be a really quick solve, but the levels in there are quite tough nuts! So, for the time being, I have resumed namida's Lemmings Plus Alpha now that I managed to get myself unstuck on Mutilation 2. There was nothing hard about the level. I was stuck on it for a long time because I was an idiot and didn't pay close attention to the save requirement and hence I was absolutely stuck on only the second level of the pack for no reason other than my stupidity. So, I guess now that I'm playing LAP, I'll see how long it takes before I get very stuck again on the pack. Needless to say, now that I'm mostly done with United, I'm pretty much playing the other two really hard level packs first before I start doing the ones a bit on the easier side.

I have modified the OP by adding LAP and Renaissance Lemmings to the list of packs I'm currently playing, as well as updated my current progress on Nepsterlems in the same list.

[kaywhyn]

Just completed Lemmings Plus Alpha! Definitely has taken me nowhere near as long as United. Once I got unstuck on Mutilation 2, the second level of the pack, I breezed through the rest of the pack pretty easily until I reached the penultimate level of the pack, Obliteration 14. Besides Mutilation 2, I was stuck on this level the longest in the entire pack. The fact that it's a hard penultimate level is quite similar to Save Me, the penultimate of the original Lemmings game and much harder than the final level of the game.

I have updated the OP to reflect that I completed Lemmings Plus Alpha. Now, I think it's back to trying to finish Nepterlems for me, as well as resolving the newest versions of United levels. Then once I'm successful with both, I think that should be it in terms of very difficult packs and then it's onto packs a bit on the easier side for me. Definitely getting burnt out by these really difficult packs, but I certainly don't mind them, given how I was willing to take them on and managed to get through them.

[kaywhyn]

Finally started playing Paralems for Old Formats! Taking a bit of a temporary break from all the very difficult levels I've been playing for the last several months and trying to play catch-up on all the other packs I've been meaning to take on for quite a while now but haven't had the chance to. Don't worry, I will come back and do some more resolving of United, as I am very determined to finish all the resolving of the backroute patched versions of the 6 levels I have left, and I will be back to finish off Nepsterlems, but I am quite burned out from playing nothing but very hard levels.

Updated the OP and topic title to reflect this.

[ericderkovits]

oh good now maybe I'll save your replays for this too, although Paralems I have replays already and turned green. But I do need replays for Pitlems

but just for your info the 2nd to last level in the last rank(Demented) IT'S FEEDING TIME! the style catrrap.dat was reported missing so here put this in your main Paralems directory

it will just add styles/cattrap.dat into the main drectory. I just grabbed it from the Pitlems pack(had to use Namida NXPextractor on Pitlems to get it.

[Strato Incendus]

Thanks for sharing this again, eric. At the time of uploading Paralems, it wasn't necessary to share my entire styles folder (as I ended up doing for Old-Formats Lemmings World Tour, because I had modified the original Lemmings tilesets by adding additional pieces that had been exclusive to New Formats at that point).

The cattrap was created by nin10doadict and thus was his to share. I converted it to New Formats, as far as I recall, until somebody else also converted the rest of his custom pieces (since they were required for the New-Formats version of CasuaLemmings).

I think everyone playing back in the day had the cattrap anyway, that's why it never came up. Newer members who only joined recently don't, at least not in Old Formats, since it didn't come with the standard downloads. As I said, though, I shared my entire styles folder together with Old-Formats Lemmings World Tour. So naturally, this also includes the Old-Formats cat trap (required for example for the World-Tour levels "Eye of the tiger" and "The lion sleeps tonight").

For now, I'm not really actively maintaining Paralems any longer for Old Formats - joshescue has finished the entire pack and I haven't looked at the replays to this day - since I assumed most people don't care about Old Formats anymore anyway, and Paralems is not going to be converted to New Formats. Only select levels from it will be, and those are going to become part of "Pit Lems Remastered". Some others already appear in the Encore rank of Lemmings World Tour, though, and do so in both Old and New Formats.

With the current resurging interest in Old-Formats packs, though (as in "actually playing them in the Old-Formats player"), I probably should take a look at Paralems again. Maybe I am just going to watch joshescue's and kaywhyn's replays for it in para-llel (*badumm-tss* ). And maybe, if they discover further backroutes (although few levels are actual puzzles, so the term rarely applies), I'm going to fix them. In case this happens on some of the levels I have selected to appear on Pit Lems Remastered, this will certainly be helpful!

But overall, Paralems is definitely at the bottom of my maintenance list. Fixing Lemmings World Tour is at the top, followed by Lemmicks. The general rule with my packs is: The later the date of creation, the higher the quality.

[kaywhyn]

Well, that didn't take very long. Paralems is done! Pit Lems is next. I have updated the OP to reflect the changes. Strato, my feedback and replays will be awaiting you in the pack topic.

oh good now maybe I'll save your replays for this too, although Paralems I have replays already and turned green. But I do need replays for Pitlems

You're in luck. The plan was for me to do Pit Lems after I'm done with Paralems anyway. Still, you're more than welcome to collect my Paralems replays too.

but just for your info the 2nd to last level in the last rank(Demented) IT'S FEEDING TIME! the style catrrap.dat was reported missing so here put this in your main Paralems directory

it will just add styles/cattrap.dat into the main drectory. I just grabbed it from the Pitlems pack(had to use Namida NXPextractor on Pitlems to get it.

Ok, thanks a bunch for this!

With the current resurging interest in Old-Formats packs, though (as in "actually playing them in the Old-Formats player"), I probably should take a look at Paralems again.

I'm a completionist, so I plan to eventually tackle all the packs that are currently available, including Old Formats. I plan to finish the Old Formats packs first, since I don't have that much left to do, before making my way up to the New Formats packs. Not to mention that the Old Formats packs are generally much older.

Maybe I am just going to watch joshescue's and kaywhyn's replays for it in para-llel (*badumm-tss* ).

Haha, I see what you did there with "para-llel."

[Strato Incendus]

Haha, I see what you did there with "para-llel."

Well, the pack is in fact called Paralems because its philosophy runs parallel to / strays from mainstream NeoLemmix puzzle philosophy.

You're in luck. The plan was for me to do Pit Lems after I'm done with Paralems anyway. Still, you're more than welcome to collect my Paralems replays too.

Alright then - I just hope nin10doadict's Let's Play was sufficient to help me exterminate all the backroutes. I'm already mentally preparing for new ones, though.

Note right from the getgo that the level "Crossing the Nile" seems unfixable; the intended solution is just way more complex than any shortcut one could come up with.

I'm a completionist, so I plan to eventually tackle all the packs that are currently available, including Old Formats.

It's funny, because both you and ericderkovits describe yourselves as such. However, for you, "completionist" actually seems to mean "play all the packs", whereas for eric it just means collecting the replays.

Once you get to Lemmings World Tour, i.e. become a Lemmings musician, I guess that would make ericderkovits your hardcore fan who travels around with you and picks up everything you drop... And who collects all of your releases, including special re-issues and such. And then he places them all in a museum and starts writing your biography...

[kaywhyn]

However, for you, "completionist" actually seems to mean "play all the packs", whereas for eric it just means collecting the replays.

Precisely! At least in the context of lemmings, being a completionist means I want to play and complete every pack As you might have guessed, I love solving levels, and if me having completed United is any indication, the community probably considers me one of the better solvers.

In other games, like Starcraft or Warcraft, for example, by me being a completionist, it means I like to raze and total every enemy base even if the campaign objective does not require such.

Once you get to Lemmings World Tour, i.e. become a Lemmings musician, I guess that would make ericderkovits your hardcore fan who travels around with you and picks up everything you drop... And who collects all of your releases, including special re-issues and such. And then he places them all in a museum and starts writing your biography...

Haha, nice! I kind of am a musician in a way, but my talent lies in singing for fun, not mixing music, so it's kind of like eric is a paparazzi haha. Also, eric has stated that he admires my perseverance and how I just have so much patience for being able to sit through levels and solve them. Just so you know, I do prefer that he actually plays and solves the levels himself rather than just watch replays, as in my opinion they simply spoil one's enjoyment of figuring out the solutions for him or herself if the level hasn't been solved yet. However, like Icho, I have made it known that I don't mind eric collecting the replays, just that he can definitely improve his solving ability by playing the actual levels before viewing any video solutions. He says he's lousy at solving, but here I think he's selling himself short, and I think he's much better at solving than he claims to be. I've seen him perfectly capable of it. 

[kaywhyn]

Well, that didn't take very long at all. Solved all of Paralems AND now Pit Lems, both packs of Strato's, all within a week. Now I think I will do LWT for Old Formats next, also a pack of Strato's that's considered his flagship pack. Updated the OP to reflect this. 

[ericderkovits]

ok good some of his old format ones don't work with Icho's new format ones. Alot do, but also many don't And since I already have icho's new format ones all turned green, I only need the old format replays for many levels

[kaywhyn]

There's a lot of physics differences between Old Formats and New Formats. Most importantly, there are some levels in Old Formats that cannot be converted to New Formats due to culled features. In those cases, usually a completely different level took its place in New Formats, or rework the level so that it's as close to the original as much as possible.

[Strato Incendus]

In those cases, usually a completely different level took its place in New Formats, or rework the level so that it's as close to the original as much as possible.

The latter is the case. I didn't create any new levels for New-Formats LWT, I just tried to get as close to the original, Old-Formats solution as possible if it involved radiation and/or slowfreeze. On two levels, the introductory ones for those features, this worked particularly well ("Radioactive" and "Like ice in the sunshine", both from the Amateur rank). On others, the original solution suffered quite a bit from the culling, so that the New-Formats version is just a weak shadow of what I had in mind as an intended solution (e.g. "Japan" or "Blowing in the wind").

[kaywhyn]

All right, I have solved Strato's LWT Old Formats pack up through the Legend rank. I still have two more ranks of 40 levels each to play, but I'm going to take a temporary break from the pack, since he still needs to release an update for the Encore and Groupie ranks. No rush Strato, take your time. This will give Strato the perfect opportunity to fix up anything for the pack, and also give me the perfect opportunity to work on other Lemmings-related stuff, including resolving United, the contest levels and solve any unsolved levels I wasn't able to, and test LOA. I definitely plowed through the pack much faster than I thought I would, although my progress slowed significantly with the more recent difficult levels. Still, very nice pack and I'm definitely enjoying it way more after getting past the boring stuff in the Noisemaker and Amateur ranks.

[Strato Incendus]

Congratulations, kaywhyn! You can definitely expect the Encore rank to be easier than what you've played so far - especially because you've played the complete set of Paralems, Pit Lems, and Lemmicks before Lemmings World Tour. So Encore will basically just be a rehashing of old levels for you.

Groupie, on the other hand, might still have some nice tricks up its sleeve. Especially those that I've learned from other players / level creators...

[kaywhyn]

Congratulations, kaywhyn! You can definitely expect the Encore rank to be easier than what you've played so far - especially because you've played the complete set of Paralems, Pit Lems, and Lemmicks before Lemmings World Tour. So Encore will basically just be a rehashing of old levels for you.

Groupie, on the other hand, might still have some nice tricks up its sleeve. Especially those that I've learned from other players / level creators...

Thanks a bunch for the kind words, Strato! So, are you saying with how I finished the Legend rank, the tour is essentially done and so I'm pretty much done with the main part of the pack? I think I can see that, considering what the post-text said after solving Legend 40.

[Strato Incendus]

Indeed, Encore is a selection of levels I pulled from the earlier packs - not selected primarily for quality, but for them being song titles as well, therefore going along with the rest of the levels. That said, I wouldn't have made an entire rank of them if I hadn't considered at least a good majority of them worthwhile puzzles.

Groupie, on the other hand, are entirely new levels. So you can of course just play them as regular puzzles, without any background knowledge. However, how much additinal value you are going to get out of these levels beyond that depends to some extent on how many packs by other players you have already played - so that you can recognize their tilesets, the skill tricks they like to use, and the references in the level titles that give hings which forum member which level is dedicated to .

[kaywhyn]

It was a very long and difficult journey, but I have finally done it: My solutions have all been accepted by Icho, and so I have officially 100% resolved all of United! A year and a bit over a month since the 1 year anniversary of when I started taking on United. Just getting the official confirmation from Icho himself earlier today nearly got me teary-eyed. So, I have officially completed one of the hardest level packs out there, although not without a bit of help along the way in the form of subtle verbal hints on a few levels.

Interestingly enough, I'm currently taking on LWT for Old Formats, and this pack barely inches out in the lead for largest number of levels solved in a pack thus far. I have completed 240 levels in LWT, while United is at 238 levels, so just two levels ahead. There's still two more ranks of 40 levels each in LWT that I still need to solve, but I'm currently awaiting a pack update. Hence, proceeding with the rest of the pack is currently on hold until that happens. In the meantime, I will be solving/resolving contest levels and playing other packs, as well as test LOA, in the meantime. Whereas for what pack I'm going to tackle next, I have yet to decide. Most likely another pack for Old Formats.

I have updated the OP to reflect total completion of United.     

[Strato Incendus]

There's still two more ranks of 40 levels each in LWT that I still need to solve, but I'm currently awaiting a pack update.

I'm going to be in hospital on Thursday / Friday, but just for something that's comparatively routine for me. I basically only have to stay there for one night for surveillance after the procedure, to be on the safe side. I'll have my laptop with me, so I'm going to have lots of time to look at IchoTolot's replays for Encore and Groupie, and then fix as many levels as I can. Thankfully, WLAN is now also free at the hospital - they used to have this thing where you'd have to pay per day.

[kaywhyn]

Oh man, is everything all right, Strato? Or do you mean you're doing hospital work?

[Strato Incendus]

No, no, I'm going in as a patient, but don't worry, I've had this procedure several times this year already. It's more or less a prophylactic thing. I've also had it done ambulantly once, but usually they want to keep you there for one night to be on the safe side.

I just hope the hospital doesn't regard this as a "new source of income" so that they keep inviting me back in after short intervals...

[kaywhyn]

Oh, I see. Well, I hope everything goes well while you're there on Thursday and Friday. I'm sure it will. I'm not familiar with the medical terms "prophylactic" and "ambulant." I had to look them up. Must be a chronic illness that I'm not familiar with, but I'm not going to press you on the matter, especially if it's a sensitive and private matter and you're not comfortable sharing about it.   

[Strato Incendus]

Oh, I don't mind sharing that stuff - it's more of a question whether you want to read about it ...

"Prophylactic" (=precautionary) and "ambulant" (=you go home after having the treatment done) are general terms that don't refer to any particular medical condition.

[kaywhyn]

Sure. I have a brother who works in a medical office in NorCal (fancy way of saying northern California here in the U.S). It's not through him that I have acquired extensive knowledge of the medical field, though. I acquired most of it from reading and human anatomy programs growing up

[Strato Incendus]

I see. Well, then I guess you can ask your brother how he would say "I'm going to rip you a new one!*" in physician's speak, and then you're getting pretty close to what this particular medical procedure is about.

*Well, not exactly a new one. It's still the same one. The German way of uttering this "threat" is more accurate, actually.

One of the things that Crohn's disease can cause, btw.

[kaywhyn]

Yes, both the saying "tear you a new one" and Crohn's disease are things I've heard of, although the latter I'm not too familiar with. I've seen and heard of it in various places online and the media. I'll be sure to ask my brother what the equivalent saying is in medical speak then haha.

[kaywhyn]

Another pack completed. Updated the OP to reflect completion of GeoffLems for Old Formats. All my replays work for the New Formats version as well, although 6 of them failed, and one was undetermined, but I fixed them and attached my updated replay collection for the New Formats version in the level pack topic. I might just do brand new solutions for the levels later on down the line, but if the Old Formats replays work, might as well just use those, especially since all the levels are the same and none of them needed to be changed in order to still be solvable.

[kaywhyn]

Thanks to the recommendation for a first pack to LP by Proxima and Strato, I have solved another whole level pack: Lemmings Migration. I have updated the OP to reflect this.

[kaywhyn]

Another level pack that I have 100% solved: Doomsday Lemmings. Modified the OP to reflect this.

[kaywhyn]

And, the biggest pack that has ever been released so far has finally fallen by my hands and been completely solved by me: Lemmings World Tour for Old Formats! Yup, all 320 levels solved. I definitely would had had all of the pack solved quite some time ago, but it was advised for me to wait for an update to the Groupie rank before I started solving the pack again. So, after I had finished the Legend rank, I took a hiatus, only to later continue playing the pack about a month or two later and play the Encore rank when it was said that no backroutes surfaced from Icho's playing of the rank for New Formats except for possibly Twilems, which Strato said he might patch.

Modified the OP to reflect the completion of the LWT pack.

[Strato Incendus]

Congratulations for being the first one to beat the Old-Formats version, kaywhyn!

That gargantuan pack was definitely a one-off on my part. Especially the Encore rank probably could have been left out by me in hindsight. Sure, Flopsy included his entire MegSEBytes pack in SEB Lems - which is what inspired me to do the same with (most of) my previous song-title levels - but the MegSEBytes levels were of much higher average quality than my Encore rank. In general, the structure of LWT, being divided into a "main part" and two "bonus ranks", was very much inspired by SEB Lems. So when I attempt SEB Lems again, I would definitely also split it, first trying to solve everything up to the end of the Rapture rank, and then taking a break before I look at the rest.

Anyways, I'm still trying to determine where the sweet spot for pack size is. Usually I like them at 100 levels at least - original Lemmings had 120, ONML had 100, and with regards to custom packs, NepsterLems clocks in at 111, which is also quite a nice number. With my current packs, I try not to go above 120 levels per pack.

Paralems was probably already too much from my side with 150; Lemmicks had even more, at 170, though I felt it was more justified in that case because the constant change of gimmicks kept mixing things up. The player needs some time to get used to the different mechanics on each rank, after all.

Lemmings United of course is pretty huge as well, and I believe it's the second largest pack, i.e. after Lemmings World Tour. That said, what's deterring me from that pack is not its size, but it's sheer difficulty, of which I have already gotten a taste when playtesting just the first rank. It definitely seems to be the optimum of level quantity and quality among all packs currently released (that is, if you equate "quality" partly with "difficulty" ; but I definitely can also see the huge amount of effort IchoTolot put into designing the terrain landscapes. So that I have some pretty level pictures to admire, even if I can't solve them ).

[kaywhyn]

Thanks for the kind words, Strato! It was extremely satisfying solving the entire pack.

Lemmings United of course is pretty huge as well, and I believe it's the second largest pack, i.e. after Lemmings World Tour. That said, what's deterring me from that pack is not its size, but it's sheer difficulty, of which I have already gotten a taste when playtesting just the first rank. It definitely seems to be the optimum of level quantity and quality among all packs currently released (that is, if you equate "quality" partly with "difficulty" ; but I definitely can also see the huge amount of effort IchoTolot put into designing the terrain landscapes. So that I have some pretty level pictures to admire, even if I can't solve them ).

You can do it, Strato! I believe in you. It's definitely a huge commitment though, no lie. So many of the levels ended up taking me hours or even days/weeks/months. Yet, I kept coming back and persevered and pushed myself to get past the roadblocks, even when I had nearly given up on solving the pack several times during the Genocide rank, the 5th and final main rank of the pack. And yes, there always is the excellent artistry of the United levels to admire

[kaywhyn]

Another pack for very Old Formats, i.e, v1.43, all solved: namida's Recycle Bin Pack. The reason for the two numbers but especially 138/140 is due to 2 levels being broken since the intended solution for them relied on a mechanic, direct drop, that is now disabled. I have attached working solutions for them in the level pack topic IF direct drop worked. In other words, I have technically solved all 140 levels of the pack, although one of the broken levels was quite difficult due to the one skill per lemming gimmick.

Modified the OP and added namida's recycle bin pack to the "completed" list.

[kaywhyn]

Another pack to add to the "completed" list, Yippee! More Lemmings. My LP for the pack is also ready. Link is in the level pack topic itself

[kaywhyn]

Just like that, in quick succession, another pack completely solved: Sammings 1. Added to the "completed" list in the OP.

[Minim]

Wow. Seems like you've batted away every ball that's thrown to you. Keep it up!

I'm just wondering, because of your quality and experience, if you feel like doing something like this one day, reviewing user's level packs after completing them. I think you'll be quite good considering how long and detailed some of your posts are, but it's up to you.

Edit: I've just realised you've already done something similar to that here. Reviewing it onto the pack's thread. Maybe that's a more helpful idea.

[kaywhyn]

Wow. Seems like you've batted away every ball that's thrown to you. Keep it up!

I'm just wondering, because of your quality and experience, if you feel like doing something like this one day, reviewing user's level packs after completing them. I think you'll be quite good considering how long and detailed some of your posts are, but it's up to you.

Hey Minim, thanks for reminding me of this. I've been thinking about doing such a thing, and absolutely, I'm totally down to do this one of these days. Should be a great way for me to recommend packs to others to play too. I definitely think the authors themselves have appreciated the super detailed feedback I've given.

[kaywhyn]

Another level pack completely solved: WillLem's Lemminas. Added to the completed list in the OP

[kaywhyn]

Another pack completely solved: Arty's Sublems pack for New Formats NL. Added to the "completed" list in the OP.

edit: Ok Old Formats version of Sublems completely solved as well. Modified the OP to reflect this as well.

[WillLem]

@kaywhyn One thing I've noticed whilst watching your LPs is that you very rarely, if ever, use Clear Physics Mode.

Although I totally respect you for playing the game old school, I have to say that CPM would probably save you a lot of time, given the way that you approach solving the levels.

You use what I affectionately call the "picture puzzle method," which basically means that you tend to spend a lot of time with the level paused and formulate as much of the plan as you can before executing it. Nothing wrong with that, of course; all the best solvers use this technique, and CPM is a match made in heaven for it!

The problem with it, of course, is that you can often make incorrect assumptions about things that you can only discover by either letting the level play, or by using CPM. I've noticed that there are many times when you question whether something is steel, or terrain, where the trigger areas are, and/or various other things that a quick flick of the CPM switch would give you your answer and save you having to find out the hard way.

The "blinking unicorn" graphic (from Lemminas) is a good example of this (although, to be fair, since that graphic is animated, simply unpausing the level would tell you that it's an object! )

You're easily shaping up to be one of the best solvers on the forums, so maybe getting used to using CPM to speed up your game a bit would take you to that next level. I never thought I'd find myself promoting CPM, but... here we are!

[kaywhyn]

@kaywhyn One thing I've noticed whilst watching your LPs is that you very rarely, if ever, use Clear Physics Mode.

In case you haven't noticed, the urge to resist using CPM is deliberate and intentional. I pretty much play the levels as they're originally intended in regards to, say, hidden traps or to see where the trigger is for hidden exits. I don't mind them on occasion, and certainly they're fun when they all of a sudden trigger out of nowhere when you least expect it, but I will mind if they're used too much in a row. I'm quite cognizant that I can use CPM for a quick check of potential problems (steel, non-steel, background, etc), but again my resisting to activate it is deliberate. More than anything, it's pretty much all about familiarizing myself with the tilesets. There's many tilesets that I have yet to play levels on, and therefore the surprises that catch me off-guard is simply due to that: I am not familiar with the objects/traps of the tileset since I've never seen what they look like in a particular tileset that deviates from the usual appearance of one. Your tilesets in which you made your Lemminas would be good examples of this. I did wonder after all whether that's an updraft, since it looks a little different from the usual. More time on a level also means more time to take it in and appreciate the design and possibly even the puzzle itself. How do you supposed I got through United despite that it took me an entire year to completely solve? By being willing to sit through and solve them and taking my time, even if it means getting stumped and stuck badly!

You use what I affectionately call the "picture puzzle method," which basically means that you tend to spend a lot of time with the level paused and formulate as much of the plan as you can before executing it. Nothing wrong with that, of course; all the best solvers use this technique, and CPM is a match made in heaven for it!

Truthfully, I hate how I have the game on pause a lot when I'm LPing. I figure that viewers want to see the action, not hear me talk planning out the solution while the game is paused for a long time. Then again, I mentioned that I don't want to bother with video editing, since I'm no good at it. Instead, what I can do is simply work on making my videos shorter. I admit that I have a problem in that if I'm building momentum by having long solving bursts where I solve several levels in a row, why stop? At the same time, I should probably try using a stopwatch/timer when I'm recording, since I generally don't pay attention to the time before I start recording.

The "blinking unicorn" graphic (from Lemminas) is a good example of this (although, to be fair, since that graphic is animated, simply unpausing the level would tell you that it's an object! )

Yes, the blinking unicorn. Again, the best way to get around this is to simply put it "out of the way" where it won't interfere. In the same way I suspected the fairy was background, but most of the time you had it "out of the way" so that whether it's solid or background (it's the latter, as I found out in a level in the Pandemonium rank) was never an issue. Or, as you said, activate CPM to quickly confirm that it's background even though the blinking animation gives it away that it's background.  However, keep in mind there's a lot of inconsistency in regards to whether something is background or solid. The clouds are a good example. The clouds of the Highland tileset are solid, but the clouds of the Shadow and Beach tilesets are both non-solid even though there's no animation. Again, best thing to do in this case is to simply put them "out of the way."

You're easily shaping up to be one of the best solvers on the forums, so maybe getting used to using CPM to speed up your game a bit would take you to that next level. I never thought I'd find myself promoting CPM, but... here we are!

Thanks for the kinds words, WillLem! I also appreciate your comments on my LP videos very much, and I'm glad to see that you're enjoying them Hopefully you're learning and taking some things away by watching/hearing my thoughts/solving process

[kaywhyn]

Another pack completed: Gigalem's Holiday 2015 pack. Added to the "completed" list in the OP.

[namida]

I admit that I have a problem in that if I'm building momentum by having long solving bursts where I solve several levels in a row, why stop?

This is not incompatible with a maximum length; in the majority of my LPs (Lemmings and otherwise) I've usually recorded at least two, if not more, videos per session. This was especially frequent during my Grandia III and Hollow Knight LPs, where I'd often record as many as seven or eight videos in a row.

[kaywhyn]

Another pack to add to the "completed" list: Lemmings Plus 1. I first played the pack on Dos a few years ago. I solved the entire pack except for two levels which I know the solutions to but they're extremely difficult and nearly impossible to pull off on Dos. One of the levels got removed in V7, while the other one is still in the NL version. I finally solved the former as a rejected level in the first rank of namida's Recycle Bin pack. I might come back from time to time to try and solve the Dos version of both levels, but honestly I think I won't be successful because of how the execution for both is way too fiddly and very messy on Dos due to its shortcomings, in particular no framestepping, directional select, and cannot assign skills while paused.

Now, I have completely solved the entire pack on New Formats NL. It was nice to play through the pack again after a few years, as well as play and solve a lot of easy levels for once, after having played almost nothing but very hard levels for the past several months. I should definitely dial back and play some easier ones, as all the hard content has been wearing me out, both physically and mentally. As I think everyone is aware, I'm willing to play packs of any difficulty, but I can feel the effects of playing only hard levels taking its toll on me.

Modified the OP to add New Formats NL to the "completed" list. I already added the 148/150 Dos version to the completed list a long time ago, and I pretty much do consider this finished since again I know the solutions but I simply can't bother to try and execute it.

This is not incompatible with a maximum length; in the majority of my LPs (Lemmings and otherwise) I've usually recorded at least two, if not more, videos per session. This was especially frequent during my Grandia III and Hollow Knight LPs, where I'd often record as many as seven or eight videos in a row.

I don't think I can record that many videos at once. At least not without experiencing discomfort from having worn the headset for extended periods of time. Granted, the most levels I have solved in one video is an entire rank of 30 levels, but at the same time they were all solved in a reasonable amount of time thanks to the ability of time skipping. Definitely going to try and keep such videos under 50 minutes to an hour long, although I'm working on getting any LP video with any number of levels solved to reasonable lengths instead of making them so long Don't worry, I'm not offended if you don't watch all in one sitting, as I myself quickly lose interest in a video after some time.   

[kaywhyn]

Another pack solved: Clammings. Wow, not an easy pack, but eventually got through it all, and definitely a great pack. Clam did a great job with his levels, and it's nice to see his legacy live on even though he has been inactive and hasn't been online here for several years.

Added to the completed list in the OP.

[kaywhyn]

Killed 3 birds with one stone and solved all these 3 Christmas packs. Updated the OP

[kaywhyn]

Another pack solved: Grams88's Nuked Lems. Added to the completed pile in the OP.

[kaywhyn]

After almost a month, SEB Lems for NL New Formats is solved. It was a very difficult and long journey, but it's finally done. Added to the completed list in the OP.

[kaywhyn]

Another level pack solved: Artlems v1.3. I have added the pack to the completed list in the OP

[Swerdis]

Congratulations! That's not an easy pack for sure, but you did it! I can hardly keep pace watching your videos :-) Which pack will you play next?

[kaywhyn]

Congratulations! That's not an easy pack for sure, but you did it! I can hardly keep pace watching your videos :-)

Thanks for the kind words! I'm in agreement of it not being an easy pack at all. Certainly harder than Sublems.

It's my bad. I generally record and upload at least 2 or 3 LP videos each day I'm also one of those people where if I'm on a hot streak with solving, why stop? Sometimes even those levels that were no solves on video make me come back for more, especially if I feel I'm really close to getting it solved but that I decided to stop because I needed some more time to think about it and also ran long on video.

Which pack will you play next?

Good question! I haven't yet decided, but right now it's a toss-up among Lemmings Plus 2, Insane Steve's World, and either Reunion or one of the packs Icho converted. In particular, I will probably start with Dovelems over Pimolems, since I first played Dovelems, then Pimolems, back when I found out about Lemmini, so pretty much preserving the order of the packs I've played here. Or, I could reverse the order and start with Reunion, then Pimolems, and finally Dovelems. It's pretty much reverse order, both difficulty-wise and chronologically in terms of when I played the packs I likely will do namida's pack next, since it's one I haven't played, while I have already played the last three packs mentioned (on Lemmini, not on NL). I also did both of Arty's packs about two months apart each, and I did namida's LPI right after Sublems, so with how it's been about two months since I completed it, I think I'm ready to take on another of namida's packs on camera

If you have any other pack suggestions/recommendations, you're certainly more than welcome to drop them off here: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5180.msg90501#new I know you said somewhere (not the one I linked to) that you have played and really liked Insane Steve's World. That for sure is on my to-LP list. Plus, Proxima's already gave that pack as a recommendation to LP. You can start with that and I'll add your name to the list of people who suggested that pack to LP You also have my word that I will cover your upcoming pack via LP when it's done and avilable

[Swerdis]

You could also play Deceits Lemmings which is a small pack of 54 levels only. I'd like to see if you can beat the infamous final level "Enter at your own risk." ;-) I couldn't so this pack can not be considered "solved" by me.

[kaywhyn]

Ah yes, thanks for reminding me. I will add the pack to the list and credit you for the suggestion (done, added to the OP in the other topic in "General Discussion") I have played Deceit's Lemmings once upon a time actually. I played it on Lemmix a couple of years ago, and that time I was able to solve all the levels except for the final one, "Enter At Your Own Risk." However, I came back to the level I think a year later and I was able to solve it, so yes, I have completely solved the pack before, just not all around the same time I solved all the ones before it. I recently came back to that level a few months ago for NL when I was resolving a patched up United level in the Genocide rank, and I believe I solved it that time as well. However, when LPing the pack, I will not be using any replays, and so I'm just going to play out the level and struggle with it as if I never played it before

[kaywhyn]

Another pack added to the completed list: LPII

[kaywhyn]

Kind of been on a level pack solving streak in the past several days and managed to take down 3 in short order: Gronkling's Animal Pack (GAP) 1: Rodents, Modular Lems by Flopsy, and integral of tan x dx's Renaissance Lemmings. I have added these packs to the "completed" list in the OP

[kaywhyn]

Two more packs to add to the "completely solved" list, David's The Lemmings Have Grown pack and Duuddu's Godlems. Phew, I'm getting worn out with these difficult packs/levels.

[kaywhyn]

As the title says, I have solved two more packs, Assorted Gubbins and Deceit's Lemmings. They've been added to the "completed" list in the OP

[namida]

Just as a general note - people rarely tend to pay attention to the titles in replies, and most people just leave it at the default (indeed, if you use Quick Reply, it's always left as default). It's better to put the important stuff in the message body.

[kaywhyn]

Just as a general note - people rarely tend to pay attention to the titles in replies, and most people just leave it at the default (indeed, if you use Quick Reply, it's always left as default). It's better to put the important stuff in the message body.

Makes perfect sense to me Something I wonder, and that is if there is a way to keep the new title of a reply. I think some users have that ability? Or is it just simply due to editing the title in the OP and hence that new one is reflected in future replies after the most recent post? Even then, I think it's like you said, the important stuff should be in the body of the message, rather than the title.

[kaywhyn]

Finally got another level pack solved after quite a while: LemRunner. Added to the OP

[kaywhyn]

One more pack finished to add to the OP list, and an excellent one at that: Lemmings Destination

[kaywhyn]

Festival Millas 2018 has been added to the OP as another level pack I completely solved.

[kaywhyn]

Lemmings Plus 3 and hence another pack of namida's Plus series complete. Added to the "completed" list in the OP

[kaywhyn]

Insane Steve's World is now completely solved. Added the pack to the completed list in the OP

[kaywhyn]

Finished grams88's first pack Ski Sloping Lemmings and hence it has been added to the "completed" list to the OP

[kaywhyn]

tan x's Integral Lemmings complete and added to OP 90 level packs solved now!

[kaywhyn]

Niesch's second pack Long Live Lemmings! (LLL!) has been added to the "completed" list in the OP, as I have solved all of the pack

[kaywhyn]

Added MegSEGAbytes to the completed list, so another level pack done and the count just keeps going up

[kaywhyn]

WillLem's Inverse Lemming pack added to the "completed" list

[kaywhyn]

Lemmings Uncharted has been added to the completed list in the OP, as it's a level pack that I just recently completed

[kaywhyn]

tan x's and Dexter's level pack All Hallow's Eve has been added to the list in the OP as another one that I solved completely. 95 packs solved now!

[grams88]

95 packs is really good going Kaywhyn. All different level designs and you could probably tell who does what type of pack. You will have a lot knowledge of the different levels as well playing that many level packs. As long as you have had fun along the way that's the main thing.

[kaywhyn]

Added New Formats NL Mazulems to the "completed" list. I do have the Dos version listed as well, but I decided to put both, as they're just slightly different due to how there are two levels in here that were originally part of the pack but were later removed.

95 packs is really good going Kaywhyn. All different level designs and you could probably tell who does what type of pack. You will have a lot knowledge of the different levels as well playing that many level packs. As long as you have had fun along the way that's the main thing.

Thanks for the compliment grams88 Yes, these LPs have been a great joy to do, and they've received quite a positive reception, so really the input of the community telling me they've been very enjoyable is really what's keeping me motivated to keep doing LPs. At the same time, I've played so many levels that it's getting much harder for me to keep track which level is from which pack. Not to mention that I haven't paid too much attention to the titles, so I usually don't remember which level is which lol.

[kaywhyn]

Added Holiday Gigalems 2017 to the completed list now, as that's another I just finished

[kaywhyn]

Lemmings Plus Omega and Holiday Lemmings Plus added to the completed list as two more packs that I finished

[kaywhyn]

With the completion of Mike's Lemmings for NL, which has now been added to the "completed" list, that now makes 100 packs that I've solved. Too bad it didn't quite go to my final planned LP that I'll be starting either tomorrow or Monday, but well, it almost worked out

[mobius]

Just want to add that this is quite an impressive list of packs you've LPd! I only know of you and Icho to make so many playlist videos of custom Lemmings content. And since I've been away from the forum until recently you've brought some awesome new packs to my attention that I'll have to get around to playing sometime soon

I voted for Mazulems, cause it is one of my favorites, and surprisingly good (if not the most difficult) for being one of the very first ever created! I'm talking about a different topic, oops!

[kaywhyn]

Just want to add that this is quite an impressive list of packs you've LPd! I only know of you and Icho to make so many playlist videos of custom Lemmings content. And since I've been away from the forum until recently you've brought some awesome new packs to my attention that I'll have to get around to playing sometime soon

Thanks for the compliments, mobius! Yea, I don't have plans to stop LPing packs anytime soon, so long as you, the viewers, continue to enjoy them and I myself keep enjoying doing them myself That reminds me, I recently checked your YT and noticed I'm no longer on your sub list, meaning you're not subbed to me. Must be those annoying YT bugs again

I voted for Mazulems, cause it is one of my favorites, and surprisingly good (if not the most difficult) for being one of the very first ever created! I'm talking about a different topic, oops!

Ah, don't worry about going off-topic, I don't mind. Though I do admit that to me it's felt awkward that I've just been talking to myself on this thread. Perhaps I should just simply edit the OP from now on. While I'm at it, I should definitely find a much better way to organize the lists, as it's becoming quite messy and getting much harder to find the correct places to add to the lists

[Strato Incendus]

Just wanted to note that the post-level jingles in your LWT Let's Play seem to be turned off, but that might just be the default in New Formats. I think you had them switched on during LOA, but I might be wrong.

I can perfectly understand anyone who switches them off; post-level jingles weren't even a thing when I was playing Lemmings as a child. Only really got to know them with NeoLemmix itself.

[kaywhyn]

Just wanted to note that the post-level jingles in your LWT Let's Play seem to be turned off, but that might just be the default in New Formats. I think you had them switched on during LOA, but I might be wrong.

I can perfectly understand anyone who switches them off; post-level jingles weren't even a thing when I was playing Lemmings as a child. Only really got to know them with NeoLemmix itself.

Yes, the post-jingles are off. I don't care too much about them, to be honest. All my LPs have them off, so no, LOA has them off too

[Strato Incendus]

Ah, good to know, then I just misremembered...

[kaywhyn]

Added Lemmings World Tour for New Formats to the "completed" list as another pack completed, though the pack for Old Formats is there as well, which was completed last year

Ah, good to know, then I just misremembered...

Just to clarify, there's nothing wrong with your custom jingles, they're fine. Being optional and all, it's mostly just to quickly go to the next level

[kaywhyn]

Added Apjjm's Lemmings Quartet to the list of level packs that I have solved completely.

[kaywhyn]

zanzindorf's pack Zemmings Complete has been added to the completed list as another one I solved entirely

[kaywhyn]

Festival Millas 2019 has been added to the finished list as another pack I have solved

[kaywhyn]

FestiveLems added to the completed list as another pack I have solved

[kaywhyn]

Added Lemmings Cranium Preview - Challenge Rank as another pack completed, although note that this is just a demo, as this is only one rank of a future pack that Crane will be releasing at some point in the future once it's completed

[kaywhyn]

Lemmings Plus IV added to the completed list as another pack I solved

[kaywhyn]

Added Mobius' Mobilems 2022 pack to the completed list as another level pack I have solved entirely

[kaywhyn]

Added LPV to the OP as another pack I solved

[kaywhyn]

Added Sammings 2 to the OP as another pack I have completed

[kaywhyn]

Added Lemmings Halloween 2017 to the OP as it is another pack I have solved

[kaywhyn]

Added two more packs that I completed to the OP, Master88's Custom Neolevels and nin10doadict's Casualemmings 2.0

[kaywhyn]

Two more packs added to the OP as I have solved them, LPO2 by namida and Lemminas II by WillLem

[kaywhyn]

Added RotL v4.0 by mobius and the NL community and Quest From Kieran by Kieran Millar to the OP as packs that I have completed

[kaywhyn]

Added 5 more packs to the completed list: Lemmings in Weirdyland by Weirdybeardy, Mike's Lemmings Version 2 by Turrican, Unusual Lemmings by Duuddu, and Festival Millas 2020 by Gigalem. Also somehow I missed Surge Lemmings by Duuddu from way back in 2021 That has been added as well.