[NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records

[Minim]

(DOS counterpart link)
(Latest version of Lemmings Redux)
(Latest version of The NeoLemmix Introduction Pack)

OK, the Time records have been released.

Thanks to namida, Proxima and all others for their earlier contributions to the challenge threads involving Redux. Thanks also to Kaywhyn, DireKrow and Flopsy for replays/LPs to the NeoLemmix Introduction Pack, and to WillLem for uploading the Lemminas results. Any more questions or errors on the table please let me know.

Latest Update: NeoLemmix Introduction Pack updated to V1.5 with new levels and results, plus improvements to older ones. Some Redux replays reuploaded to add nukes to existing solutions. The most recent level improvement is Zany 13: "Don't leave any lemmings" with a time of 0:53.53, though there is room to improve at the start of the solution thanks to the exit facing the opposite way.

Lemmings Redux

Gentle (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Just dig!	0:17.12
2	Only floaters can survive this	0:20.00
3	Tailor-made for blockers	0:20.47
4	Now use miners and climbers	0:36.71
5	You need bashers this time	0:36.41
6	A task for bombers	0:21.47
7	Builders will help you here	0:43.59
8	Snuggle up to a Lemming	0:18.35
9	Get a little extra help	0:39.29
10	Downwardly Mobile Lemmings	0:10.71
11	Keep your hair on, Mr. Lemming	0:25.71
12	A Block from Home	0:29.29
13	Let's go to the moon!	0:35.59
14	CindyLand	0:44.53
15	Darkness of the royal family	0:30.59
16	A Beast of a level	0:44.18
17	You Live and Lem	1:13.82
18	Lemming toast	0:38.18
19	Where do you see Lemmings?	0:39.94
20	Patience	0:30.06
21	Lemmings in the attic	0:21.29
22	Let's be careful out there	0:24.41
23	Pillar talking	1:17.94
24	Rainbow Island	1:04.53
25	The Crankshaft	1:17.18
26	Careless clicking costs lives	0:52.71
27	Quest for Kieran	0:38.94
28	Catch more floaters.	1:09.29
29	Konnichiwa Lemming-san	1:16.76
30	Turn around, young lemmings!	0:16.71
31	Doomsday	0:35.41
32	Going Their Separate Ways	0:49.88

Quirky (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	PoP YoR ToP!!!	0:27.47
2	It's Lemmingentry, Watson	0:24.94
3	Vacation in Gemland	1:43.94
4	Go for it!	1:28.94
5	Keep all enemies out.	1:22.27
6	Just a Quicky	0:26.59
7	The runaround	2:21.12
8	A Spot of Bother	0:52.12
9	Exodus!	1:20.53
10	The Needs of the Many...	1:15.65
11	DON'T PANIC	0:44.24
12	Over the wall	0:33.88
13	Haunted botanical garden	0:30.82
14	Meeting Adjourned	1:28.59
15	Plethora of Presents	0:59.06
16	MENACING !!	0:58.18
17	Mr Lemmy Lives Next Door	1:16.53
18	One way or another	2:02.41
19	Tunnel vision	1:07.82
20	Perseverance	0:27.29
21	The Long Way Around	0:56.53
22	The Far Side	2:09.35
23	Emmings!  (No L)	1:23.71
24	Lunch time	0:58.35
25	No choice but to follow them	1:10.29
26	Take care, Sweetie	1:27.76
27	The Island of the Wicker people	1:10.29
28	Speed Trap	0:54.65
29	Tension Sheet, Good Idea	1:18.18
30	Izzie Wizzie lemmings get busy	0:49.24
31	Cascade	0:53.59
32	And then there were four...	1:20.53

Zany (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	The bridge is breaking down.	1:03.76
2	Temporary peace	1:42.65
3	Last one out is a rotten egg!	0:49.35
4	LEMTRIS	1:16.65
5	Watch out, there's traps about	0:47.24
6	Compression Method 1	0:47.06
7	No time for a detour	0:49.35
8	Lemmy in the cold, cold ground	1:44.94
9	No justice for the hero	1:40.18
10	Flow Control	0:22.41
11	LeMming ToMato KetchUp fAcilitY	0:26.94
12	Twins	0:57.88
13	Don't leave any Lemmings	0:53.53
14	Pitfall	1:06.41
15	With a little help from my Lem	1:14.06
16	What an AWESOME level	1:56.12
17	Lemming Lament	1:09.06
18	KEEP ON TRUCKING	1:29.41
19	Postcard from Lemmingland	1:14.35
20	Dolly Dimple	0:46.88
21	Mutiny on the Bounty	1:43.47
22	SNOW JOKE	1:33.41
23	ONWARD AND UPWARD	2:13.94
24	I have a cunning plan	0:35.88
25	Have a nice day!	1:04.94
26	Across the Gap	0:35.00
27	Jump down!	1:39.47
28	Worra load of old blocks!	1:02.59
29	Four Play	1:32.65
30	Got anything... Lemmingy???	0:55.47
31	ROCKY ROAD	2:10.88
32	The North Poles	2:01.35

Manic (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Let's get together.	0:50.59
2	The Lemming Funhouse	0:39.06
3	If at first you don't succeed...	2:26.41
4	No world without you	0:55.65
5	Synchronised Lemming	0:46.59
6	Chill out!	0:15.41
7	Down the tube	0:30.65
8	Is this a circus?	1:32.41
9	AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!	1:50.35
10	ROCKY VI	1:56.06
11	With a twist of lemming, please	1:30.65
12	Steel Block Party	0:35.18
13	Upside-down World	1:45.41
14	Come on over to my place	0:34.12
15	THE SILENCE OF THE LEMMINGS	1:22.06
16	A BeastII of a level	1:45.53
17	Just a Minute...	0:44.82
18	The gate trap Lemmings.	1:01.41
19	Poles Apart	1:12.88
20	Fall and no life.	1:36.53
21	Electric circuit	1:09.59
22	It's not over till it's over	0:48.53
23	Old MacDonald Had a Farm...	0:56.82
24	The race against cliches	2:04.47
25	Acrophobia	0:56.94
26	Triple Trouble	0:56.47
27	Watch your fingertip!	1:07.18
28	Out, away from the tune	1:28.65
29	Just a Minute (Part Two)	0:47.94
30	POOR WEE CREATURES!	1:41.53
31	Where Lemmings Dare	0:46.06
32	Temple of Love	2:02.59

Lunatic (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	It's hero time!	0:39.53
2	The Boiler Room	1:18.59
3	Anxiety	1:20.71
4	No added colours or Lemmings	0:41.35
5	There's madness in the method	1:39.76
6	Which one are you trying to get?	0:39.65
7	Down, along, up, in that order	1:16.76
8	Lemming about town	2:56.41
9	Evacuating a coal mine	1:26.06
10	Be more than just a number	1:39.18
11	Fix the road, quick!	1:38.65
12	Water processing plant	1:41.06
13	This Corrosion	1:14.53
14	Move on in two separate groups.	1:05.41
15	Evil whisper	1:17.71
16	SEGA Four	1:46.12
17	Creature Discomforts	1:10.00
18	Scaling the Heights	0:25.18
19	Private room available	0:59.94
20	No hurry, relax.	1:54.24
21	The Steel Mines of Kessel	1:54.18
22	Hello John! Got a New Lemming?	2:29.65
23	The Great Lemming Caper	0:48.82
24	Everyone's a hard nut.	0:59.65
25	Watch right or left (Part Two)	0:23.59
26	Final impediment	0:22.00
27	Let's go camping.	0:10.76
28	Lemmings in a situation	1:25.88
29	Save Me	3:10.12
30	Lemmings' Ark	1:33.06
31	I am A.T.	0:47.18
32	Fall and no life (Part Two)	2:01.06

Ichotolot's NeoLemmix Introduction Pack

Skills (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Just Digging Into NeoLemmix	0:48.71
2	Let's Take a Bash At It!	0:50.94
3	Fence & Mine For A Diagonal Line	1:10.94
4	Climb Up, Hang On, Get Along!	1:14.88
5	Block And Blow In The Snow	0:52.53
6	A Float, A Glide, Puts Any Abyss Aside!	0:12.12
7	Building Flat And Building High	2:12.47
8	Stacks And Stones Saved Our Bones	1:09.59
9	Amphibious Engineer Squad	1:00.65
10	Walking On The Cloner Cliffs	0:18.71
11	Jumping Lem Flash	0:23.47
12	Laserslide	1:16.41
13	They Can't Mash Us All!	0:29.47
14	Just Nuke Them!	0:21.29

Objects & Functions (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Up For A Walk?	1:37.65
2	Time Crime	0:47.47
3	Index Error Out Of Bounds	1:14.94
4	Iron Anthill	1:14.76
5	A New Coat Of Paint	2:10.12
6	Trap Roulette	1:55.53
7	Follow The Arrow!	1:50.94
8	Set Your Priorities Right!	0:48.76
9	Pick Them Up And Push Them Down	1:51.59
10	Split And Splat	0:41.82
11	Beam Them Over	2:32.65
12	Gravity Lab	1:27.41
13	Stop, Rewind And Go!	1:29.76
14	Big Steps Through The Snow	3:53.06
15	Getting Into Sorting	0:54.82
16	Highlights With A Safety Net	1:37.18
17	Night Of The Living Lems	2:49.29
18	Neutral Response	1:31.71

Basic Training 1 (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Tower Of Training	2:17.35
2	With Minimal Efforts	2:07.29
3	Headbumper	2:27.12
4	Blocker Rocker	1:46.82
5	Steely Halls	1:19.06
6	Central Fear	0:49.47
7	Limited Release	2:41.18
8	Spiraling Out Of Control	3:12.88
9	Deepfreeze	2:32.71
10	PARKOUR !	1:51.06
11	The Guardian	1:53.59
12	Weightless	0:56.18
13	Distance Control	1:34.41
14	King Of The Sky	0:36.65
15	Backup Wall	2:02.94
16	The Builder Drain	3:29.41
17	Top-Down Approach	1:51.76
18	Reacharound	2:42.24
19	Scrap The Buttons!	2:14.71
20	Airdrop Incoming!	1:24.94
21	Fly Traps	2:05.47
22	It's A Stretch	2:23.71
23	Delaying The Inevitable	3:11.71
24	Chalk Walk	1:44.24
25	The Graveyard	1:04.12
26	Laboratory Of Explosions	2:16.94
27	Containment Breach!	3:18.41
28	Slider's Sacrifice	1:34.35
29	Blastcrawler	5:21.76
30	Oil Processing Plant	4:00.94

Basic Training 2 (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	The Joy Of Sorting	1:44.35
2	Hidden Crystalline Temple	2:26.88
3	Dig The Trench!	1:22.82
4	Sandy Danger	1:16.88
5	Lab Workout	1:55.47
6	That Little Extra Help	1:20.65
7	Counterclockwise	0:52.00
8	Keep A Tight Grasp!	2:07.18
9	Cunning Cycle	2:56.00
10	Above The Nile	2:35.24
11	Infinity	1:00.29
12	Platstop	0:45.24
13	Stick The Landing!	1:04.41
14	Steps And Pixels	2:14.24
15	Stepblocked	3:35.88
16	The Steepest Slope	1:41.65
17	A Sudden Change In Direction	2:06.29
18	Concentrated Force	0:30.94
19	Blocked In Your Favor	1:53.88
20	Double Down!	1:54.18
21	Combine & Conquer	4:10.59
22	Fancy Fencer	3:35.00
23	Equal Distribution	2:39.24
24	Snow Splitter	1:28.12
25	Rude Interruption	1:24.29
26	Rescue Ralley	1:47.24
27	Special Staircase	1:02.18
28	Stepping Up To The Stars	1:51.00
29	Shocking Interruption	2:16.94
30	Overruled	1:02.59
31	Pressure Management	0:53.35

Advanced Training (click to show/hide)

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Stepping Up To A Higher Level	1:25.82
2	Bending Bashers	3:10.94
3	Higher Levels Of Wisdom	2:26.24
4	Walking Over Dead Bodies	2:03.24
5	Curse Of The Gold	1:40.29
6	Pharaoh's Turnaround	1:40.35
7	Checkerboard's Crossing	1:56.12
8	Between A Stone And A Hard Place	0:54.65
9	Shimmichanga	1:36.53
10	The Detour	2:24.24
11	Saving Two Lems With One Bomb	1:22.94
12	Stack And Step	1:58.00
13	Jump The Sausage!	1:52.06
14	Welcome To The Sliderdance!	4:24.71
15	Stacker Of The Sky	1:38.59
16	Caught And Released	1:24.24
17	Sorry, Job Already Taken	1:06.47
18	Blocker's Blindside	0:58.53
19	Beam Up The Equipment!	1:18.65
20	A Different Kind Of Space	2:04.53
21	Welcome To The Crystal Maze!	3:12.76
22	Just As He Was About To Fall	0:54.12
23	Edges Of Glory	1:10.29
24	The Fiddler	0:52.53
25	The Fiddler 2: Electric Boogaloo	0:48.82
26	Revenge Of The Fiddler	0:49.35
27	Victory Lap	2:52.29

WillLem's Lemminas

Magical (click to show/hide)

#	Level	Record Time
1	Welcome The Lemminas	1:31.35
2	We Like To Dig Too	0:15.00
3	Mind The Gap...	1:22.71
4	Lemdon Bridge	2:16.65
5	Lemmina Loop Prevention Service	0:58.35
6	Just Keep Swimming	0:41.29
7	Lemminas Luv M.C. Escher	0:59.53
8	Pyramids of Lem (Under a PepsiCola Sky)	0:56.47
9	Send Them Soaring!	0:38.94
10	Just Shimmy!	0:57.41
11	I'll Go First...	0:58.41
12	Climbing In The Moonlight	0:34.41
13	Believe In Yourself!	0:16.88
14	Lemminas Go Forth	0:48.76
15	A Jumper Would Be Handy!	1:36.65
16	Revenge of the Ice Cream Monster	1:49.29

Sensational (click to show/hide)

#	Level	Record Time
1	Worra Lorra Lemminas!	2:23.12
2	Dimples	0:46.24
3	Backroute To The Future	0:47.88
4	Pillars of Venus	1:40.41
5	See You On The Other Side	1:41.59
6	Hurry!	1:25.18
7	The Melting Block	0:20.82
8	The Continuum	2:22.82
9	Delaying The Inevitable	1:02.06
10	The Strange Boutique	0:47.18
11	The Refrigerator	1:48.65
12	Falling Forever	0:13.53
13	The Unnecessarily Tall Pillars	2:45.47
14	Race To The Top!	1:11.76
15	Many Jumpers Would Be Handy!	1:57.94
16	Escape From Crystal Mountain	3:25.00

Tricksy (click to show/hide)

#	Level	Record Time
1	Who's Doing What?	0:38.47
2	Lemmina PepsiCola Research Event	0:58.06
3	The Milkshake Machine	1:39.53
4	Konbanwa Lemmina-san	1:18.65
5	Lemmina Drops	1:25.94
6	Day of the Daredevils! Part III	1:32.71
7	Easy Peasy Lemmina Squeezy	1:13.00
8	Stainless Steel Lemminas	0:31.88
9	POOR WEE CREATURETTES!	1:10.94
10	Down The Rabbit Hole	0:22.65
11	Lemminas Recurring	0:55.41
12	Soda Streams	2:04.94
13	Nessy II	2:42.18
14	No I in Team	0:44.76
15	Just a Second...	0:00.94
16	The Crystal Cobwebs of Mt. Katie	1:27.06

Pandemonium (click to show/hide)

#	Level	Record Time
1	Lemmina City Steel Facility	1:14.29
2	Milkshake Party	0:59.71
3	Nightmare on Lem Street III	1:15.94
4	Lemgate	1:47.45
5	The Cherry Cola Conundrum	1:44.18
6	L-PoP	0:24.24
7	Falling Forever Part II	0:43.76
8	Staircase to Nowhere III	1:42.59
9	With a Twist of Lemmina Please	0:48.88
10	I'll Just Wait Here, Shall I?	1:44.29
11	Mary Poppins' Land II	2:51.00
12	Erm...	1:22.65
13	Constellations II	2:25.71
14	Save Us	0:37.94
15	Nothing is Impossible	0:39.12
16	Rendezvous at the Mountain Part II	1:22.88

[WillLem]

[Minim]

Namida's improvement to Zany 18 on the Minimum Skills thread also reduces the time by around 11 seconds. Good job! I also updated Proxima's SYCLW solution to Manic 17 that has a slightly more sensible time record.

Otherwise, looks like this thread is falling down the order quite quickly. If there are no further responses I'll probably list just the latest update on the main post and the log of improvements in this post.

[Proxima]

Fastest time is never likely to be as popular as minimum skills and other challenges, because unless you are really frame-perfect there is always room to improve, and that adds up to a lot of effort per level. Still, since it is tracked by NeoLemmix, I'm interested in improving times (for Redux at least), so I will probably get around to it after we're done with other challenges.

For now, here's a genuine time optimisation on Just a Minute, because there's nothing "sensible" about taking a time record from a replay where I was optimising something else

[Minim]

I was thinking that would happen; And yes, that solution of yours is a great idea of controlling the crowd, even though there are no hazards ahead. I wonder if this is one of the original backroutes that one of the guys at DMA managed to do until the designer removed that half pillar for Part 2?

Anyway, I've counted your result in, and I'm going to try optimising the new Zany 18 solution with a proper time.

Edit: Zany 18's result now down to 1:29.41, a considerable improvement by nearly 30 seconds. Quite fiddly thanks to me choosing an earlier lemming to mine, resulting in more lemmings not getting trapped, but got there in the end.

[Proxima]

If it was a backroute, why would they make a second version of the level instead of just fixing the first one? It's always felt clear to me that the platform is there because you are meant to use it in the first level -- which is why the second one is (intended to be) harder.

Anyway, I've started having a look from the beginning, but these are laborious to do so I'm only doing them in small chunks. Here are my improvements for Gentle 1-16. Gentle 6 (A task for bombers) is obviously impossible to improve further, but even on levels as simple as these, it's hard to make guarantees for most of them.

Most of these are just optimisations of the standard solutions with skill spamming and interrupted miner staircases, but a couple are more interesting -- especially 15 (Darkness of the royal family) in 31 seconds and 16 (A beast of a level) in 55 seconds.

[Proxima]

It was bothering me that The Crankshaft was the only Gentle level with a listed time above 2 minutes, so I messed around a bit

EDIT: Replaced the replay with a more serious attempt at optimising.

Also, It's hero time in 39.53, another one where I am pretty certain this is the absolute minimum possible.

[Minim]

Hey, nice job on Gentle 25. I like the start when you specified the release rate for each bomber across the wall. Also, the climbing bomber looks like it takes a while to do and can only be done once, but it's amazing how much height it covers. Watching another experienced player master these non-basher speed tricks was pretty satisfying.

Just updated the table to include a sub-minute time for Manic 31 (Thanks to namida's 7-skill route, I had enough flexibility with the skills to get them down quickly enough). I also simplified the table by removing the redundant rank names, as result filling was taking ages to write.

Edit: Added a sub 45 second solution to Lunatic 6. (Like the min-skills solution, I agree this one is a real giveaway)

Second Edit: Lunatic 13 and 14's records updated to 1:14.53 and 1:06.71 respectively. From 3/12/20 onwards as I am compiling the community's best replays into a single ZIP file, I will be updating the ZIP file rather than scatter updates across different posts. The two attachments that were at the bottom of this post are now on the zip file.

Third Edit: Improved results to Lunatic 26 and 28 confirmed to 1:35.00 and 1:25.88 respectively. 28's update has most certainly been coming considering the shortness of this level.

[Proxima]

Still working through Gentle; here are replays for 17-24. Particularly noteworthy savings are "Where do you see Lemmings?" in 39.94 and "Pillar talking" in 1:17.94. (This means "The Crankshaft" is once again the level that requires the most time in this rank.)

[Minim]

More time improvements added to Manic and Lunatic: Particularly to Manic 29, "Just a minute 2", the record time is noticeably faster than Part 1 thanks to the additional climber playing a role. So there should be no more of those silly "00.00"s left to find now.

Manic 2: 0:39.06
Manic 12: 0:38.53
Manic 15: 1:25.59
Manic 29: 0:47.94
Lunatic 5: 1:39.76
Lunatic 17: 1:12.71

I will also fix an error to Lunatic 31. The record had already been broken beforehand down to 0:47.35. I will update the table and the replays shortly.

[WillLem]

Here's Lunatic 21 The Steel Mines Of Kessel in 2:04.94. I've used all the available Builders and Bombers in this solution, so further optimisations to get it under 2 mins will likely come down to RR magic.

Also, Zany 4 LEMTRIS in 1:24.24. This one's a fairly twiddly multiple-worker solution that could possibly be improved even further with extra twiddliness, but this is about at twiddly as I generally want to be

[Gronkling]

Heres some early gentle levels I improved the time on
Gentle 1: 18.88 [-1.65] (I'd imagine this one can still be improved on by a few frames)
Gentle 5: 36.76 36.18 36.12 36.00 [-1.18] (Again, probably can be improved)
Gentle 6: 21.47 [-0.59] (Can't see any way to improve this but maybe it can be done)
Gentle 7: 43.82 43.59 [-0.82] (still feels like there should be a faster method)
Gentle 9: 39.29 [-1.83] (another one with probably a better way to do it)

[Proxima]

I had a look at the remaining Gentle levels and was able to improve all of 28-31. No luck yet on 26, 27 or 32.

[Gronkling]

Here's a big improvement to gentle 11, with a time of 25.71 [-13.00]
And gentle 12, time 30.47 29.29 [-3.18]
Slight improvement on gentle 13, time 35.59 [-0.76], still feels like some more optimisation could be done on this one though
Even slighter improvement on gentle 15, time 30.59 [-0.41]
Big improvement for gentle 16, time 44.18 [-11.58], another one that seems to have places to improve still

[namida]

This is likely to be my only contribution to this challenge. I felt I had to do one.