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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2020, 06:33:56 AM »
Did you see my other gentle solutions? Only some of the seem to have been added to the chart.

Probably not, and I hope to do so eventually. Sorry, but I was busy last night, and so many contributors took part the night before. Do you know which level numbers I've left out? Checking to see if I've downloaded everything plus updating the table is quite a tough job.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2020, 12:03:27 PM »
Do you know which level numbers I've left out?

g. 01 - 17.12
g. 11 - 25.71
g. 12 - 29.29
g. 13 - 35.59
g. 15 - 30.59
g. 16 - 44.18
g. 17 - 1.13.82
g. 19 - 38.18
g. 31 - 35.41
q. 01 - 27.47
q. 05 - 1.22.27
q. 06 - 26.59
q. 07 - 2.21.12
z. 04 - 1:16.65 (willlem)
z. 11 - 27.71 (willlem)
m. 30 - 1:41.53 (willlem)

EDIT: I missed gentle 31: 35.41
« Last Edit: December 19, 2020, 04:57:41 PM by Gronkling »

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2020, 04:04:27 AM »
Some more solutions

Quirky 10 - 1.15.65 (-1.76)
Quirky 11 - 0.44.24 (-9.29)
Quirky 12 - 0.34.12 (-1.06)
Quirky 13 - 0.30.82 (-3.89)

Also gentle 31 record (35.41) needs adding to chart

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2020, 08:36:11 AM »
Here's Zany 6 Compression Method 1 in 00:57.88 (-3 seconds) to bring it under the minute.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2020, 01:58:11 PM »
I had a go at the two 3-minute levels to see whether either could be brought under 3 minutes. No luck, but I did slightly improve the current records on both.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2020, 03:39:44 PM »
Good job, WillLem. However, I also had a go at Zany 6 today and managed a faster time: 0:55.59. New zip file containing my replay will be updated shortly.

My other improvements are:
Zany 5: 0:47.24
Manic 1: 0:58.12
Manic 3: 2:26.41
Manic 5: 0:46.59
Lunatic 3: 1:33.88
Lunatic 6: 0:39.65

For Zany 5, I went over the water this time. Gronkling's "Doomsday" two-lem speed building trick could be used here to speed the building here further.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2020, 04:23:03 PM »
The two lemming building trick was used in Pooty's solution so it's their advancement, I just improved on their containment method. It's definitely a useful technique if you have enough bashers and builders.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2020, 10:31:32 AM »
Some morning improvements

Quirky 17 - 1:17.41 (-1.00.88)
Quirky 18 - 2:02.41 (-6.71)
Quirky 19 - 1:07.82 (-29.18)
Quirky 20 - 0:27.29 (-1.47)
Quirky 21 - 0:59.24 (-13.35)
Quirky 22 - 2:09.35 (-19.77)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2020, 02:12:18 PM »
A few more improvements to other random levels from me this morning:
Zany 32: 2:01.35
Zany 31: 2:10.88

Lunatic 27: 0:31.41 (I've finally managed to backroute this level and ignore the parts below :P)
Lunatic 23: 0:50.24
Lunatic 22: 2:29.65

Manic 24: 2:12.53
Manic 13: 1:47.76 (The first time this level is beaten in 2 minutes. This was a real :forehead: moment. You don't always have to bash underneath the mouse trap... May not work on DOS however thanks to dodgy miner/right OWW mechanics.)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2020, 02:25:35 PM »
Lunatic 27: 0:31.41 (I've finally managed to backroute this level and ignore the parts below :P)

Replay please? There is still time for this to be fixed :P

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2020, 02:41:18 PM »
Sure. Here you go. :)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2020, 03:26:14 PM »
Well, that's a stumper. I must admit that I don't see any possible way to fix that, without really ugly hacks like putting fire objects on the terrain around the hatch, so I may just have to let you get away with that one :P

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2020, 08:31:08 PM »
This trick could potentially be useful for any level involving an opposite facing exit, blockers, bashers and lots of spare builders. I used it to solve Lunatic 26 in just 52 seconds. 8-) Replay is attached to the zip file.

Other results this evening so far are:
Manic 26: 0:56.47 (Similar to the published solution but uses an extra blocker)
Zany 24: 0:35.88 (Because there are 100 lems and a 99 release rate I wanted to find a quicker way to let the last lemming reach the exit. I had to build towards the entrance but also needed to find a way redirect the builder towards the exit before the last lem arrives.)

I also fixed an error to Zany 25. The result is 1:04.94.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2020, 08:44:08 PM »
Finishing off quirky for the time being

Quirky 24 - 0:59.71 (-35.47)
Quirky 27 - 1:10.29 (-12.47)
Quirky 29 - 1:21.88 (-40.06)
Quirky 30 - 0:54.65 (-1.70)
Quirky 31 - 0:53.59 (-2.59)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Fastest Time Records
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2020, 07:28:03 AM »
Wow, Gronkling. By looking at those replays, well spotted backroute on Quirky 24. Should be a much easier one to fix I bet.

Also, a totally majestic solution to Quirky 30! I didn't think a basher could actually rise a pixel on the builder's stair while bashing close to the next wall. I don't think this trick will be easy to copy, :P but nonetheless a great spot indeed, and it's nice to see something different like this.
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