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NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« on: January 20, 2020, 08:48:56 pm »
This topic is for compiling maximum lemmings saved records for NeoLemmix levels. This is not just limited to the NL versions of the original levels; feel free to add records for usermade packs.

It's important to be aware that, unlike the original games, NL packs may be updated by their creators/compilers at any time. To make things run more smoothly, if you have any records to share, please observe the following protocol:

* Refer to levels by name, not just position! Records without level names will not be added to the opening post.
* If possible, make sure you are playing on the latest available version of a pack at all times.
* When posting records, include the date the pack was last updated. (This will usually be the "last edited" date of its topic's opening post.)
* If possible, post replays so that your results can be verified.

I'll start the ball rolling with Lemmings Redux, now that the pack is finished. I haven't played through the entire pack yet, but I've skimmed through it to see which levels are non-100% (I may have missed some) and done my best to set a record on all the remaining levels. I feel sure that some of these can be improved!

As usual, all levels are 100% unless specifically mentioned. (If cloners are available, "100%" means the total of lemmings + cloners, and any less than this will be noted.)

Lemmings Redux
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Lemmings (original)
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Dodochacalo's packs

DoveLems
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Geoffster's packs

GeoffLems
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mantha16's packs

Sammings
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Namida's packs

Doomsday Lemmings
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Lemmings Plus I
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Lemmings Plus Omega
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WillLem's packs

MiniLems
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2020, 09:10:01 pm »
Lunatic 16 "Sega Four" on Redux is 100%able. (EDIT: Looks like you caught this slightly before I did.)

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2020, 09:25:56 pm »
Quirky 29 "Tension Sheet, Good Idea" is also 100%able.

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This replay was made using the V12.8.0-RC but I'd be very surprised if it doesn't work on V12.7.X, as there should be no physics differences between them.
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2020, 09:38:53 pm »
Zany 10 "Flow Control" improved to save-17.

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2020, 09:59:16 pm »
Manic 27 "Watch Your Fingertip", 100%ed. This is actually quite simple compared to the previous ones.

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2020, 10:26:35 pm »
Manic 32 "Temple of Love" improved to save-29.

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2020, 08:11:40 pm »
Lunatic 20 "No Hurry, Relax" improved to save 14. Normal solution, it's just a matter of fiddling with the exact positionings of a few skills.

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2020, 08:22:39 pm »
Lunatic 21 "The Steel Mines Of Kessel" improved to save-44. I considered a few ideas for save-45 but I don't think any of them are workable with only 10 builders.

If there's any more improvements possible in Redux, I can't see how - I think this is the last one from me.
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 12:47:44 am »
Zany 22 SNOW JOKE 100% still basically works in Redux.

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2020, 12:46:04 am »
Confirmed Manic 15 THE SILENCE OF THE LEMMINGS save 38.  This is actually somewhat significant because IIRC, there are a number of lose-2 solutions previously reported for DOS Lemmings (I know of at least 3) that all happened to use (each different) behaviors that don't work the same on NeoLemmix (thus rendering the solution inoperable in NeoLemmix).  It seems like this NeoLemmix solution can potentially be back-ported to work on DOS Lemmings, but does that correspond to an already previously reported solution for DOS Lemmings, I'm not sure.
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2020, 09:39:13 am »
Manic 23 (Old MacDonald...) improved to 38.  I never actually played the DOS version of level, so no idea whether the record there is lose 2; if not then it almost certainly should be.

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2020, 11:03:35 am »
The DOS record is lose 2 but it relies on direct drop, so I guess I gave up too quickly looking for a lose-2 solution in NL. :P

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2020, 12:33:12 am »
Redux is probably getting close to completed, so, I'm going to start looking at Lemmings Plus I. Here's my results up to Danger 15 (inclusive).

Mild 22 "Blow Down" - 19/25

Wimpy 4 "Saviour" - 79/80
Wimpy 29 "Russian Rescue" - 79/80

Medi 4 "Getting There" - 48/50
Medi 5 "Safety Blast" - 77/80
Medi 15 "Shooting Star" - 38/40
Medi 16 "Grounded!" - 17/20
Medi 17 "Six Feet Under" - 56/60
Medi 20 "The Diving Board" - 57/60
Medi 21 "As It Burns Away..." - 76/80
Medi 25 "Wall of Wisdom" - 64/80
Medi 27 "Take A Dive" - 48/50
Medi 28 "Way Up High" - 19/20
Medi 29 "Lemmingsense" - 77/80
Medi 30 "Consider Everything..." - 79/80

Danger 1 "Inside Outside" - 10/15
Danger 3 "Backdraft" - 16/20
Danger 9 "With A Quirk Or Two..." - 48/50
Danger 13 "Breakthrough!" - 56/60
Danger 15 "Circular Wavelength" - 77/80

All iterations of No Salvation are 100%able. All others up to Danger 15 are 100%able.

Replays attached for:
- Mild 19 "Up To Where They Go", save-all
- Wimpy 12 "Only One Place To Go", save-all
- Medi 30 "Consider Everything", save 79
- Danger 8 "Cavern Of Chills", save-all
- Danger 13 "Breakthrough", save 56
- Danger 14 "Death In All Directions", save-all
- Psycho 29 "No Salvation V", save-all - should work on all other iterations of No Salvation too

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2020, 03:09:45 am »
I had a quick look through the rest of Danger, skipping over 16 as it looks too complex for late-night :P My results:

21 It's The Latest Craze! 19/20
23 Lair Of The Fallen Lemming 78/80
26 With Love, From Trogdor 55/60
27 The Deadly Climb 2/5
28 Coalburner 74/80
30 The Hideout 79/80

Replay attached for 100% on Danger 21.
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2020, 11:34:47 pm »
The best I can achieve for Danger 16 "The Oddstack" is 65/70.

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