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ArtLems - Development Topic
« on: February 14, 2017, 04:50:34 am »
Happy Lemmings Day everyone! In commemoration of this occasion, I have decided to reveal the true nature of the levelpack I have been making. The name of the pack is ArtLems, and it truly is a pack unlike any other.

This pack doesn't just give you levels that get progressively harder. This pack actually takes you through the various art periods that have occurred throughout history! Each rank is a different art period, and all the levels in the given rank take on the visual characteristics of that art period. The music for each level in a rank also comes from that art period, or at least sounds like the music from that period. Here's a brief overview of the different ranks.


Ancient

The oldest of the art periods. Here, the levels are modeled after ancient civilizations and structures, as well as scenes of nature untouched by intelligent life. Since there is no music existing from this time period, all of the songs from this rank are simply reminiscent of the settings of the levels themselves. A few of these are advanced tutorial levels, but you'll get plenty of simple puzzles as well.


Byzantine's Temple of the Lion


Medieval

The time has come for more lush landscapes and plenty of castles! The Medieval period is home to fortresses with beautiful architecture and a few rather simple, religious art pieces. The music is reminiscent of Medieval times with lots of flutes and lutes, as well as a few old religious chants. These levels start fairly simple, but quickly picks up in difficulty, giving players more challenging and interesting puzzles.


Castle Crawl


Renaissance

And now, the dark ages have ended, bringing us into the golden age of art and music! The levels have beautiful, yet simple landscapes, and stunning architecture even more gorgeous than those from the Medieval period! Religious themes still exist, and can be expressed in even more detail now, and terrain mixing is far more prevalent. The music too has gotten more beautiful, with classical music taken from Thomas Tallis, Giovanni Gabrieli, and other great Renaissance composers. The solutions are also beautiful and refined, if a bit difficult.


Terramort


Baroque

A far more elegant and ornate style than the Renaissance period. The Baroque period features art that is more grandiose and emotional than the Renaissance period. Bold colors are used to create contrasts, and elements of nature show up in the architecture. The levels themselves tend to be larger, with lots of decorative terrain. The music is also more elegant and complex than the Renaissance music, and many pieces from Bach and Vivaldi will grace the levels' presence. As for the levels themselves, the solutions are more complex and often require mild to medium multitasking.


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NeoClassical

Here we start to see the contrasts in the art periods much better. NeoClassicism, or Classicism when talking about the music, differs greatly from the Baroque period. Scenes are more simple, shapes are more natural, and everything follows specific guidelines and rules, reflecting the changes happening in the world, as people become more focused on logic and reason than religious faith. Mozart and Beethoven are the stars of the music world now, and the pieces composed expound on the newly found range of the instruments, while still being quite natural and easy on the ears. Be prepared for even more intricate solutions now, and some deep thinking.


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Romantic

Just as NeoClassicism contrasted Baroque art, Romanticism differs still more greatly from NeoClassicism. Romanticism focuses on emotion more than anything else, in both the art and music. Orchestras are getting bigger, songs are getting more complex and intense, and landscapes are breathtaking in their beauty. Each level attempts to convey a great variety of emotions, and puzzles are getting harder still, with larger levels being the norm.


A Night on Lem Mountain


Modern & Beyond

We have reached the final art periods now, and anything goes. Art is unpredictable, has no rules, and can take on any shape or form. Innovation and originality are the primary focus now! Experimentation is used in graphic sets, and not always in the pretty way. Music has been digitized and fully-evolved, with a larger variety of sounds and instruments now available. These puzzles are the hardest this pack has to offer. Best of luck to you all, because by the end, I am holding nothing back.


Art's Abstraction
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2017, 04:51:18 am »
I'll modify this post to keep the level count updated.

Ancient: 13/20 levels
Medieval: 13/20 levels
Renaissance: 7/20 levels
Baroque: 5/20 levels
NeoClassical: 5/20 levels
Romantic: 2/20 levels
Modernist: 9/20 levels

Total: 54/140 levels
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 04:52:00 am »
If anyone has any classical music they'd really like in the pack, let me know! I may end up creating a level around it!

I am also looking for people to volunteer help make custom art for the menu background, logo, rank cards, that kind of thing. PM me if you want to help!

Classical music I am already using in this pack:

Renaissance Era:
  • O Magnum Mysterium - Giovanni Gabreili
Baroque Era:
  • Water Music Suite - Handel
  • Four Seasons (all four movements) - Vivaldi
  • Toccata and Fugue - Bach
Classical Era:
  • Fur Elise - Beethoven
  • Piano Concerto 21 (Andante) - Mozart
  • Piano Sonata No 16 in C Major: Allegro - Mozart
  • Sonata Pathetique Op 13 (1st movement) - Beethoven
  • 5th Symphony - Beethoven
Romantic Era:
  • La Mer - Debussy
  • Flight of the Bumblebee - Korsakov
  • Carnival of the Animals (Aquarium) - Saint-Saens
  • A Night on Bald Mountain - Mussorgsky

Modernist Era:
  • Fratres - Arvo Part
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2017, 06:04:33 pm »
what a cute idea! is this going to just focus on western classical art or is there going to be art/music from other cultures? i don't know much classical music (from anywhere) though
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2017, 06:15:17 pm »
Impressive graphics and design! I suggest you the famous "Promenade" from the "Pictures At An Exhibition" suite (by Modest Mussorgsky) as music for a level. I think it would be very appropiate for the pack, since all that suite was inspired by actual pictures.

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 10:03:20 pm »
is this going to just focus on western classical art or is there going to be art/music from other cultures?

It will mostly be based off of the styles in the Western and European world, but the first rank does have levels modeled after African, south American, and Asian landscapes.
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 04:37:16 am »
These look very pretty. Hard as all get out, probably too much so for me, but that's the norm around here. :D Most of my levels don't look nearly this good. I subscribe more to the strategy of "throw stuff together and make the puzzle work because I'm lazy and can't be bothered to make it look nice."
Also very yes you should use "Pictures at an Exhibition" for music at some point. Love that song.

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2017, 04:34:27 pm »
I wouldn't worry nin10doadict, I feel like that a lot when I see a lot of other people's level pack levels as well.

I too feel that my levels suffer from lack of artisticness because I focus on making a puzzle work rather than how the level looks.

I think there are many different types of Lemmings level creators on here, some like to make their levels look visually appealing while making good levels and some don't focus on looks and make their levels stand out in other ways.

I think this project looks great Arty, it's a great idea to make a cultural Lemmings level pack. I'll be keeping an eye on this one :)
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2017, 11:13:22 pm »
Yes, Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition" would be an excellent choice as background music, but I think you should try to find a way to also fit in Rachmaninoff's "Isle of the Dead", Hindemith's "Mathis der Maler", Granados' "Goyescas" and Respighi's "Botticelli Triptych" (all inspired by painters or paintings) in there.

I actually don't think Classical music and Neoclassical music are the same thing. I think Neoclassical music is a musical period in the 20th century where composers of the era looked to the past for inspiration (Bach, Mozart and the like). Some good examples: Stravinsky's "Pulcinella" (and other works he composed around that time), Prokofiev's "Classical" Symphony", Respighi's "The Birds" and maybe Rodrigo's "Fantasia para un gentilhombre".

In fact, 20th century classical music has a wide variety of styles, and Stravinsky actually wrote in quite a few of them. Impressionism is of course well known in both a visual and musical medium (Debussy and Ravel), and maybe you could even find a way to include an atonal composition (Schoenberg, Berg and Webern) in the pack.

Overall this is an AMAZING idea for a pack and I will definitely keep an eye out for progress on it.

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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2017, 11:29:40 pm »
Well, thank you! I always love hearing positive things about my pack! :D

I am aware that NeoClassical music and Classical music are different. It's confusing because the Classical era of music happened at the same time as the NeoClassical era of art. I also know there are other music/art eras such as Impressionism, Modernism, post-modernism, minimalism, etc. but if I included all of those this pack will be in development until at least 2021! I'm kind of clumping them all into the Modern ranking.
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2017, 06:44:53 pm »
If anyone has any classical music they'd really like in the pack, let me know! I may end up creating a level around it!

I could give quite a few suggestions, but I don't want to overload you, so maybe you could give an idea of how many pieces you've already chosen (and how many for each era)? For now, I'll just say that one of my favourites of Bach's compositions is the Prelude and Fugue in B minor: Wikipedia has a public-domain recording.

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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2017, 08:38:04 pm »
I updated the third post to include music I am using in the pack.
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 10:51:01 pm »
I was waiting to tell you in IRC but you never come on there anymore :P

This pack looks really good so far! :thumbsup: very artistic. Is this what that sample level from my stream was from? If so, then this pack will be crazy difficult too.

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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2017, 10:58:11 pm »
Thanks mobius!

Yes, Journey to Futility is from the Modern rank. It's currently level 3, but it will be pushed up once I make more levels. Rest assured, this pack is not for beginners, but it still has enough "easy" levels that anyone can enjoy some of it, but only experts will be able to complete it.
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2017, 03:47:19 pm »
There's also some songs from the Nutcracker. Three songs you can use:
1. The Nutcracker, Op. 71: Overture (note that this song also appears in Sega Master System Lemmings).
2. The Nutcracker, Op.71 No. 2 March
3. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy

Some other classical musics that could work for this pack:
1. First Gymnopedie, by Erik Satie
2. Clair de Lune by Claude Debussy
3. Rondo in C by Beethoven
4. Also sprach Zarathursta by Richard Strauss
5. The Blue Danube by Johann Strauss, heard in the Space levels of Lemmings 2: The Tribes

Also, does Scott Joplin's music work in this pack? You've heard these songs in my gameplays of Chip's Challenge. Songs like "The Entertainer", "Maple Leaf Rag", "The Ragtime Dance" , "Something Doing" (also in NepsterLems), and "Wall Street Rag" come to mind.
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2017, 06:49:22 pm »
Great suggestions! I love the Nutcracker Suite, but I need to be judicious in which ones are used, otherwise 90% of the Romantic rank will play Nutcracker music. ;P
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2017, 08:42:08 pm »
Also, does Scott Joplin's music work in this pack? You've heard these songs in my gameplays of Chip's Challenge. Songs like "The Entertainer", "Maple Leaf Rag", "The Ragtime Dance" , "Something Doing" (also in NepsterLems), and "Wall Street Rag" come to mind.

James Scott was also a great "ragtimer". I think his "Broadway Rag" is a joyfull song for a level.

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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2017, 10:47:59 pm »
I reccomend:

Seigfreid's Funeral March by Richard Wagner
Fantasy in F Minor, Chopin
Scherzo in B flat Minor, Chopin
Reflections in the Water, Debussy
The "Images" by Debussy are short and maybe good for this (that's what Reflections is from)
Violin something (concerto?) in D major, Brahams
Watz in.... I forget by Brahams, it's a short song.
Consolation by Franz List
The Planets; Gustav Holst
Bolero, Ravel

for contemporary artists; try anything by Arvo Part, I highly recommend! [but especially Fratres for Cello and Piano)

If you want to include anything by Scott Joplin I can give you the files from Chips challenge which is certain to be copy right free. My favorites are Weeping Willow, Heliotrope Boquet, Magnetic Rag, Paragon Rag, Wallstreet and Scot Joplin's New Rag.

good suggestions by others. :thumbsup:

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2017, 11:58:33 pm »
The ars nova piece 'Messe de Notre Dame' is really good for the Medieval section if you want genuine music from then, it's just chant though (like most western medieval music). It was revolutionary for the time though because two different melodies were sung at once! Nearly all chant before that was only one melody sung by everyone.
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2017, 01:37:25 am »
that reminds me of "Scarborough Fair" which is a song also from the Medieval period.

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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2017, 10:17:25 pm »
Well, it happened. I can't remember how to beat one of my levels (A Night on Lem Mountain for the curious), and apparently I don't have any replays of it. :-[ Has this ever happened to anyone else?
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2017, 11:38:29 pm »
It's happened to me before. :-[

I would suggest trying to solve it, and if you don't manage to do so (perhaps you're better at making difficult levels than solving them), ask somebody on the forums via PM to take a look if they have time. There's also the possibility of you having made a change you forgot about that made it impossible to solve (for example, you could've been making a change, realized you wanted to do something else, saved the level while it was impossible/still in the process of being changed, and later forgot to complete the change).

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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2017, 11:51:50 pm »
Glad to know it's happened to someone else too.

The problem is, I remember there being backroutes in the level that I forgot to seal, and I'm afraid I won't be able to find the intended solution. Thanks for the advice though; I'll try it.
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2017, 12:51:11 am »
It's happened to me as well Arty, my way around this is making sure I always make a successful replay file of the intended solution when I've finished a level and I make this a MUST.

There's still one SEB Lems level where I cannot remember the solution to it at the time of typing this lol
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2017, 04:16:56 pm »
Geez Louise, this level is hard. I've tried so many different things, and everything I try just doesn't work, so I'm opening this up. If anyone wants to try to solve this level, just PM me, and I'll send you the level+music.
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2017, 04:16:17 am »
Thanks to bulletride for finding the new official solution to A Night on Lem Mountain, although the original solution should still exist.

Also, I'm creating a level that requires me to write a program in Python to help build it. It's extremely slow progress, but it should be worth it (hopefully).
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2017, 06:01:27 pm »
Talk about a dedication to your craft... :o

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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2017, 12:42:53 pm »
Handel and other great Renaissance composers

I should also point out that Handel is usually considered a Baroque composer, not Renaissance. Other than that, awesome.

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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2017, 02:21:54 pm »
Was he really? My art history class taught us he was a Renaissance composer. I'll have to look into that.
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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2017, 03:48:48 am »
Couple of announcements to make here.

Yes, I am still making this pack. Progress has not been as fast as I hoped it would be when I announced it, and there are many, many reasons for this. One of these reasons is that I want to make this pack truly extraordinary and accurate to the art periods. I want someone to see a level in a given rank, and immediately be able to see the connection between it and the art period. This is even harder than it sounds, and looking back at several levels, I do not think I did this justice, which has convinced me to touch up some levels, and scrap others.

Another thing that has been bothering me is the music. I want each period to have music representative of the art period. The Ancient and Medieval eras are tricky, because little to no recorded music exists from those times, so I have to improvise with things that simply sound accurate to the period. The problem is, these tend to not be royalty free and/or public domain. I feel it would do this pack a great injustice to not have unique music selected for each level to perfectly compliment the atmosphere, but at the same time, I do not want people to be detracted from playing this pack due to large downloads and/or getting potential video solutions taken down because of the music. It's a big dilemma, and one that I've struggled with for a while now.

Please let me know which of these is most important to you:

1) That the music is public-domain and royalty-free
2) That the music comes from the time period the level is based on (if possible)
3) That the music complements the level, even if it's technically out-of-place for the time period

Also, for the Modernist rank, I currently have mostly video game music/remixes playing on the levels. At first, I liked this, because I know of a ton of great tracks I wanted to include, but looking back, I feel this doesn't accurately reflect the true nature of Modernist music, so I may change/scrap quite a few levels in that rank, because they were based around the music track (such as Hailfire Peaks).

Playing ParaLems, Lemmings Migration, and now SEB Lems has gotten me back into the Lemmings mood, but I still feel like I have little to no good ideas for any ArtLems levels, at least, not levels I consider to be good enough for this pack.

Sorry for the ramble; hopefully this gives you guys a good idea of where I'm at right now in regards to ArtLems. I feel it was time for an update since I've been quiet on the details of this for a long time now.

P.S. Thanks chrisleec728 for pointing out Handel was a Baroque composer and not a Renaissance composer; I had no idea, and you just saved me from looking like a complete idiot when I released the pack! ;P
« Last Edit: September 23, 2017, 03:56:19 am by Colorful Arty »
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2017, 11:35:57 am »
Speaking for the Let's Play part of the community which seems to consist of me, yourself and IchoTolot mainly.

Seeing as you're playing my first Lemmings pack on YT right this minute, I've just experienced for the first time what it's like to have someone playing your pack and giving great detailed feedback on it as it comes to them. So for that reason, I can see the lure of having things being YT friendly since watching LPs of someone playing your pack is truly a great experience! :)

I feel it's important that the music is royalty free and will not cause issues with YouTube videos.
When choosing the music for SEB Lems, I did use music which will get flagged but it will just mean ads can appear on your videos. Now I'm sure there is no one here who is bothered by that because I don't know anyone on here who monetises their videos and it's not really practical to do so because our Lemmings videos will never hit over 200 views in their lifetime!

Now the ones I avoided like the plagued were songs which could get your video muted, I've been caught out before when doing my Lix videos (mostly by Hatsune Miku tracks which are a new can of worms when it comes to licensing - the tracks are listed on YT in Japanese for starters!).

You need to find a good balance between choosing good music that fits the pack, music that you're happy with but at the same time you're not going to have the perfect choice of music to choose from, some tracks are off limits and you just have to live with it. It's not an easy balance to find.

Regarding your choices, I think 1 and 2 are most important to me. I think go to 3 as a last resort if you fail to fully satisfy 2 to your own satisfaction!
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2017, 01:29:07 pm »
Thanks for the update. Also, you're welcome; with all due respect to your art history teacher, I'm honestly not sure what they were talking about or why they would teach such a thing. It seems like pretty common knowledge to me.

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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2017, 07:56:29 pm »
Thanks for the input Flopsy. I will make sure that no music in the pack causes videos to be muted (SubLems had that problem). I'm not exactly sure how to check if music will get a video muted or not though...
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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2017, 08:35:33 pm »
Thanks for the input Flopsy. I will make sure that no music in the pack causes videos to be muted (SubLems had that problem). I'm not exactly sure how to check if music will get a video muted or not though...

Usually if you're unsure, just upload a short video with the track playing clearly in it. It has to be a video file though otherwise YT won't accept it.

Usually after uploading it, you will immediately know what YT has done with it.
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2017, 07:20:52 pm »
I'm not sure if that will work, because that one SubLems track that got your video partially muted was not muted for my video.
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2017, 04:30:53 am »
Good news! I had a great burst of creativity the past few weeks, and got ideas for many new levels for the pack! After culling a level or two and adding the new ones, I have broken the 50 level mark, so as of now, the pack is a little over 1/3 of the way complete! :D

Not only that, but there are now lots of levels that I have started making, and when those get finished, I'll be up to over 60 levels.

I'm still debating over whether to release a demo before the pack is completed or not. On one hand, the demo gets people (hopefully) excited about playing the completed pack, but on the other hand, a demo means fewer levels to look forward to come the actual release. Would people like a demo or not?

Alternatively, because I have removed many levels from the pack, I could release a "demo" consisting of the levels that were removed, which are still not bad at all. That would give people an idea of what to expect, without spoiling anything from the actual pack.
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2017, 01:16:36 pm »
I think the rejected levels you can certainly demo; perhaps some of them might find their way back in? Especially if people come up with more interesting solution than what you might have intended.
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« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2017, 02:29:02 pm »
Maybe, but many of the levels were rejected because their architecture were not reflective enough of the art period they were in, so it will be hard for them to make it back in.
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Re: ArtLems - Development Topic
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2017, 03:19:40 am »
I updated the level preview screenshots (hopefully) for the last time. (See the initial post)

At this point, I have so many ideas for levels (either in terms of architecture or tentative solution) but it's just a matter of getting off of my lazy butt and making them. :-[
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