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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #180 on: February 05, 2021, 09:08:20 PM »
I thought I'd share my 0 Builders for PSP 30 The Stairs Are Not Floored :lemcat:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #181 on: February 06, 2021, 04:12:50 AM »
More results!

2P ONML

4 "The Only Way Out" - 1 builder
8 "Co-operation" - 7 builders
9 "One On One" - 2 builders
All others: None

2P Genesis

All levels: None

"Other" (...at some point I really should think of a better name for this rank!)

1 "One Way to Freedom" - 11 builders
2 "The Apple Computer Level" - None
3 "Go for it!" - 2 builders
4 "Lemming Lament" - 1 climber, 3 bombers, 4 builders
5 "Through the graveyard" - 10 builders
6 "Going Their Separate Ways" - 5 builders
7 "Ohayo Lemming-san!" - 8 builders
8 "It's not over till it's over" - 2 builders, 1 miner, 1 digger
9 "Something weighing on your mind?" - 6 builders
10 "Don't Make The Wrong Choice!" - 6 builders, 5 bashers
11 "Vacation in Gemland" - 5 builders, 1 basher

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #182 on: February 08, 2021, 05:12:30 AM »
We started on the NES levels, but when it came to Mayhem, there are a couple of points where I'm really not sure of how the level behaves on the actual NES version, and I want to wait until I actually get that far in my playthrough of the NES version before making decisions about how the conversions should be. So, these are (probably) final results for the first three ranks, but we'll leave challenges on NES Mayhem until the conversions are finished.

Fun

1 "We All Fall Down" - None (the NES version of this level gives 14 of everything!)
2 "Origins And Lemmings" - None
3 "Danger The Bridge Is Out" - 2 builders
4 "Do Not Do Anything Too Hasty" - 7 builders
5 "Lemmings Lemmings Everywhere" - None
6 "Lemming And Lime" - 2 builders

Tricky

1 "A Bag Of Lemming Drops" - None
2 "Lemming I Scream" - 1 floater, 5 builders
3 "Iced Lemming" - 1 climber, 6 builders
4 "The Crankshaft" - None
5 "Lemming Good Fun" - 1 blocker, 10 builders

Taxing

1 "Roman In The Ruins" - 2 builders, 1 basher
2 "Up The Wooden Hill" - 7 builders
3 "A Spot of Bother" - None
4 "On The Spiders Web" - 1 builder
5 "Just Drop In" - 2 diggers
6 "Arctic Lemmings" - 9 builders
7 "Come To Lemming County" - 1 bomber

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #183 on: February 09, 2021, 10:24:01 PM »
The new version of "Quest for Kieran" requires only 1 builder, and no other skills.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #184 on: March 01, 2021, 02:11:41 AM »
Redux/Quirky 24 "Lunch Time", climber and digger eliminated thanks to a speedrun strategy Gronkling shared on Discord.

I suspect I can get this down to 1 blocker, too, but it's going to be a hassle so I haven't pulled it off yet. I may also further be able to, if I pull this off, get a 3-builder from it.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #185 on: March 04, 2021, 10:06:33 PM »
Earlier Proxima had just update the thread to confirm that Lunatic 4 can be done without climbers (Thanks to Crane for the solution). The replay can be found here.

Could this be doable on DOS as well?
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #186 on: March 05, 2021, 09:04:28 PM »
Right. Because Lemmings Redux has gone through a final update I downloaded all the replays again and have gone through the Mass replay checker to check their solvability. These are the following levels that came up as either "Failed, Undetermined or Level Not Found".

Gentle 32: 0 climbers & 0 floaters
Lunatic 17: 0 climbers, 5 builders & 0 bashers
Manic 18: 1 basher
Gentle 23: 5 builders
Lunatic 22: 4 bashers & 0 diggers
Quirky 12: 2 bashers

The Gentle 23 solution was probably an oversight, as I think the user pressed the replay save button before bombing the blocker holding the pack. :D

The update has affected Lunatic 17's 5-builder solution. I was unable to match that and could only get it in 6 builders. Fortunately I succeeded with the rest of them. Replays of all fixed solutions attached to the zip file.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #187 on: March 05, 2021, 10:41:58 PM »
Tough, but not impossible.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #188 on: March 12, 2021, 02:16:27 AM »
Results for the NL conversion of the Genesis levels. Note that the pack contains only the levels unique to the Genesis version, so the level numbering is different, e.g. Fun 1 "Room with no exit" is Fun 14 on the Genesis, since Fun 1-13 are the same levels as on Amiga.

Fun

1 "Room with no exit" - 10 bashers
2 "Tea time in the ball country" - None
3 "Take a little rest." - 1 builder
4 "Catch more floaters." - 9 climbers, 9 floaters, 1 builder, 1 basher, 1 miner
5 "Lemmings in the attic" - 4 bashers
6 "A Beast of a level" - None
7 "Under construction" - 2 builders
8 "Dark dawn" - 1 builder

Tricky

1 "Where do you see Lemmings?" - None
2 "Keep Step" - 2 builders
3 "Let's go to the moon!" - None
4 "Go out for a walk?" - 1 climber, 2 diggers
5 "Salvage boat" - 5 builders
6 "MENACING !!" - 3 builders
7 "Don't leave any Lemmings" - 3 builders, 1 bomber
8 "Everyone turn left" - 60 miners
9 "Konnichiwa Lemming san" - 2 builders, 1 miner
10 "Don't follow me." - 3 miners

Taxing

1 "The bridge is breaking down." - 1 builder, 1 basher
2 "Temporary peace" - 8 builders, 1 basher
3 "No choice but to follow them" - 2 builders, 3 bashers
4 "Jump down!" - 5 builders, 1 basher, 1 miner
5 "Lemmings search for treasure." - 4 builders, 1 basher, 1 digger
6 "Walk through here but cautiously" - 1 bomber
7 "Value each moment" - 2 bombers
8 "What an AWESOME level" - 1 builder
9 "Lunch time" - 2 blockers, 4 builders, 2 bashers
10 "Fall and no life." - 1 floater, 3 builders, 1 basher, 1 miner
11 "Keep all enemies out." - 1 climber, 5 builders, 2 diggers
12 "Watch right and left!" - 1 climber, 1 floater, 1 bomber, 1 blocker, 9 builders, 1 basher
13 "Watch your fingertip!" - 2 builders, 3 bashers, 1 miner
14 "Watch right or left!" - 6 builders

Mayhem

1 "Let's get together." - 2 builders, 2 bashers, 1 digger
2 "Over the wall" - 2 bashers
3 "Twins" - 4 builders
4 "Dangerous balcony" - 3 builders, 1 digger
5 "Climb and fall. Fall and climb." - 2 builders, 1 basher
6 "Two ponds" - 8 builders
7 "Two different worlds" - 6 builders, 1 basher, 1 digger
8 "A BeastII of a level" - 1 builder
9 "A group of entrances" - 4 builders, 3 bashers, 1 digger
10 "Lemming eater" - 3 builders, 2 bashers
11 "Leftovers are not always a waste" - 3 builders, 1 digger
12 "No hurry, Relax." - 1 climber, 1 floater, 3 builders, 7 bashers
13 "Lemmings' Ark" - 3 climbers, 4 builders, 1 basher, 2 miners, 1 digger

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #189 on: March 31, 2021, 10:38:44 PM »
We did some results for Inverse Lemmings.

Fun

1 "Just dig!" - 1 digger
4 "Don't do anything too hasty" - 4 bombers
6 "We all fall down" - 40 jumpers, 2 bombers
All others: None

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #190 on: September 25, 2021, 01:25:56 AM »
...and some MegaLems...

Fun

5 "Nothing Seriously" - 3 builders
6 "Rescue Time Approaching" - 2 climbers, 2 bashers
7 "Bubble Path" - 1 climber, 1 builder, 1 miner
8 "P24 Vest" - 2 builders, 2 bashers
9 "Floor Theft" - 1 climber, 1 builder
10 "Mega" - 7 builders
11 "So Mild" - 1 floater, 2 builders
16 "Wing Time" - 1 digger
17 "The Jagged Wall" - 4 builders
20 "Upwards Equivalent Of A Miner" - 3 fencers
21 "What A Puzzle" - 3 fencers
23 "Bars Of Life" - 5 builders
25 "First Of The Whole" - 5 builders
26 "What A BLUE Level" - 4 builders
27 "Funneling Effect" - 1 glider, 1 builder
28 "More Like A Puzzle" - 1 glider, 1 platformer, 1 basher
29 "Straw Sticks Or Bricks" - 4 builders
30 "One Skill Short" - 5 builders, 2 bashers, 1 miner
All others: None

...and some Lemmings Plus II.

Nice

1 "Holding Out For A Hero" - 1 climber, 3 bashers
2 "Acidic Lemming" - 1 builder, 1 miner
3 "The Downwards Mission" - 3 bombers
4 "Now Figure This One Out..." - 1 builder
5 "Get Your Lemmings' Worth" - 1 builder
6 "Capsule Run" - 1 builder
7 "Together We Sand" - None
8 "Evolved Lemming" - 2 builders
9 "No Need To Think Too Hard" - None
10 "Lemming Snack" - None
11 "Fun With Lasers" - 11 builders
12 "Cactus Island" - 3 builders, 1 basher
13 "Watch Your Lemmings..." - 1 builder
14 "The Potplant Level" - 5 builders
15 "To Lem, Or Not To Lem" - None
16 "These Lasers Aren't So Fun" - 1 bomber
17 "Lemmings Gettin' Down" - None
18 "MEGALEMMINGS!" - None
19 "Live And Let Lem" - 1 floater, 2 builders
20 "Dungeon Of Danger" - 3 builders
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #191 on: September 25, 2021, 04:37:43 AM »
My LPII improvements.

The last one uses Proxima's 4-builder solution replay as a starting point, branching off from the point at which I...

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #192 on: September 26, 2021, 01:06:47 AM »
My interesting replays for Cheeky 1 to 13:

Cheeky 5 - No Builders
Cheeky 6 - 1 Floater + X Builders; 2 Builders
Cheeky 7 - X Builders + 1 Basher
Cheeky 9 - No Basher
Cheeky 10 - No Climbers + No Bombers + No Builders
Cheeky 11 - No Diggers
Cheeky 12 - No Bombers; No Diggers
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #193 on: September 26, 2021, 04:14:30 AM »
Results for Cheeky, and my interesting replays for both ranks:

1 "What Does The Lemming Say?" - None
2 "Double Dipping" - 1 basher
3 "An Arm And A Lem" - 2 builders
4 "Island Hoppers" - 7 builders
5 "A Violation Of Lemming Rights" - None
6 "Raindrop Lemmings" - 1 floater, 2 builders
7 "Yours Treely" - 3 builders
8 "Just Breathe..." - 2 builders
9 "Oh Snap..." - 2 climbers, 2 floaters, 1 blocker, 1 builder, 1 miner
10 "Camp Of Curses" - None
11 "One-Lem Wonder" - 5 builders, 1 basher
12 "Horror Tree" - 1 miner
13 "Above The Forests" - 3 climbers, 5 bombers
14 "Land of the Lost" - 3 builders
15 "To The Treehouse" - 2 climbers, 1 bomber, 6 builders, 2 bashers, 1 miner
16 "Placement Testing" - 3 bombers, 1 builder
17 "Heads Up!" - 3 builders
18 "Oasis Crossing" - 5 builders
19 "The Road To Nowhere" - 2 bashers
20 "Kickback Scheme" - 2 climbers, 1 bomber, 6 builders, 2 miners

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #194 on: September 26, 2021, 04:28:35 AM »
My replays for the remainder of Cheeky.

Cheeky 14 - 3 Builders
Cheeky 15 - 2 Climbers + 1 Bomber
Cheeky 18 - 5 Builders; No Bashers; No Diggers
Cheeky 19 - No Bombers; No Builders
Cheeky 20 - 6 Builders; No Bashers (and in the latter, one miner can trivially be swapped for a basher, hence 2 miners)
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