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I'm happy to announce the official release of my first level pack! :-[




- Featuring new Neolemmix skills including Slider and Laserer!
- 100 levels divided into 5 ranks
- Focus on original L1 and L2 graphic sets and as well as several custom tilesets by various authors.
- Covering wide range of difficulty : From medium-difficulty levels to very challenging levels that require you hard thinking.


1.) Download Links(Dropbox):

Level Pack: Lemmings Uncharted V4.0
Music: Lemmings Uncharted Music

This pack has all the music files in the subfolder "Uncharted". So do not manually move the music files into the main music folder!
The only thing you have to do yourself is to extract both of them into your main NeoLemmix folder.

             Yes! :thumbsup:                            No! :devil:



2.) Ranks

This pack is divided into 5 ranks:


1. Aries (Medium)

 These levels are simple and easy. :D
 There are X-of everything levels, mild puzzles with small skillset and even an action-based level with infinite jumpers!
 But don't feel too comfortable. It already enters slightly harder territory toward the end of the rank!


King's Cove

2. Gemini (Medium~Hard)

 It's not much harder than the first rank.;)
 These levels are still simple and light.


Between Madness and Creativity


3. Leo (Hard~Very Hard)

 Now you should be well prepared to use your thinking engine in creative ways. :P
 A lot of levels require outside-the-box thinking and unobvious tricks.


Almost Paradise


4. Libra (Very Hard~Extreme)

 From this rank, these levels will give even the top-notch solvers a lot of troubles! :evil:
 You sometimes have to find completely new tricks you've never seen before.


Slip N Slide


5. Aquarius (Extreme~)

 Brace yourself for puzzle nightmares! :devil:
 These levels are the hardest puzzles I could give you.


Forgive Us



3.) Music Credits:
List of Music (click to show/hide)



4.) Thanks to:

 - Namida for creating and maintaining Neolemmix
 - Everyone who created or converted all the tilesets I used in this pack
 - Nessy for allowing me to use the butterfly-shaped terrain pieces from his level "Butterfly Cult" in one of my level "Bloodthirster".
 - Ichotolot, Strato Incendus, Kaywhyn and NieSch for inspiring or motivating me to make my own level pack
 - My lovely girlfriend for making the final level of Lemmings Uncharted
 - Lemmings Forum community for general support and being nice and friendly

and most of all, you for playing my pack. :thumbsup:



5.) External Links:
Let's Play Lemmings Uncharted by kaywhyn
« Last Edit: April 19, 2022, 08:23:07 AM by Armani »
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2021, 05:05:17 AM »
Congrats on your first level pack's release, Armani! :thumbsup: What a great accomplishment. Another pack for me to play and bust my brain through. As such, this pack has been added to my "to-lp" list, a decision I might regret later due to signing up what sounds like a very difficult pack to lp. Nevertheless, I will rise to the challenge and see how far I can get with it in my LP. In case it hasn't been made clear even after almost a year and a half since I first posted publicly on this site, I don't mind hard levels, especially the good kind of hard which is very satisfying to solve and figure out. Hard levels are my type of levels that I like solving, though I like playing and solving levels of all difficulties, especially since I will suffer burnout from playing nothing but hard levels, like with United, and therefore easy levels were a welcome sight in the ensuing months after my very long struggle with United after an entire year.

In any case, I won't be LPing this pack right away, as I have other packs in mind that I been meaning to get to for quite a while but haven't gotten around to LPing yet. So, Lemmings Uncharted will have to wait for a few more months. Rest assured that I will be LPing your pack when I get to it! ;)

Once again, congratulations on the level pack's release, and I will look forward to the challenges within!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2021, 06:18:55 AM »
Congratz Armani! I've been looking forward to this pack. It all looks and sounds very promising. I will check it out soon and I will try to solve at least one of your "extreme" levels. :lem-shocked: :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2021, 03:18:31 PM »
So many packs so little time. ;)

I will play this as I genuinely enjoy soling your puzzles, but first I promised to solve a few other packs first.

But I will 100% get to this! In the mean time other people can then at least sort out the worst backroutes. :devil:

Also, comgratulations on the release! :thumbsup:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2021, 04:29:49 AM »
V1.1 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-1 12 Midnight Circus - added some water
-1 16 Cheese in the Trap - added a bit of terrain
-1 19 Yawning Crevasse - added a bit of terrain
-1 20 Renaissance in Lemmingsland - added a steel block
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2021, 01:00:21 AM »
V1.2 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-1 19 Yawning Crevasse -added some water, added a steel block
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2021, 07:02:33 AM »
I'm enjoying the pack, it all looks great. :)

I found a backroute for "Operation Cooperation". And even though I used all the skills in "Crystal Clear", it feels backrouty too.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2021, 08:20:45 AM »
V1.3 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-1 11 Operation Cooperation - added a bit of terrain
-1 19 Yawning Crevasse - replaced 2 builders with 2 platformers

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Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2021, 02:30:46 PM »
V1.4 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-1 19 Yawning Crevasse - remade the solution
-2 03 Heretics of Dune - -1shimmier
-2 05 Simple Aesthetics - added some traps
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2021, 02:04:34 PM »
V1.5 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-2 05 Simple Aesthetics - added some traps, -1 digger
-2 10 Is That All We Have - added a flamethrower, removed a bit of terrain
-2 12 Magic Box - added some water, added a steel block
« Last Edit: July 28, 2021, 04:33:32 AM by Armani »
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2021, 10:39:14 AM »
V1.6 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-2 15 Gates of Hell - added some flamethrowers
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2021, 08:58:48 AM »
@Armani Just a quick tip that you can go ahead and close/lock the development topic for the level pack, since it's no longer in development because you have already released the pack ;)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2021, 04:40:20 AM »
And done ;) Thanks for the tip!
I first thought to just delete the development topic, but I decided to left as is just in case.
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2021, 05:16:21 AM »
V1.7 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-2 19 Steepest Slope -  added a steel block


And I also post the list of musics in the main post. :D
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2021, 08:50:29 AM »
Hi! In the last few days , I have tried the pack , and I have solved some levels from it ( 17 levels from the first rank ) .

So, here are replays for the levels 1-9 , 11 , 12 , 14-18 , and 20 from the first rank.

Very nice and fun levels , and also very good puzzles! Most of the solutions look intended , but there are several that look to be backroutes.

I would like to try more of the pack , but unfortunetly , time is a little tight this period fom me. But when I have more replays to share , I will send them to you.

My favourites of these levels , are 6 and 7.
My Youtube channel ( Turrican Lemm )  :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYGFBOHdYITHlsqa203Tu8Q

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2021, 11:56:19 AM »
V1.8 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-1 02 Petrifying Gaze - added some water
-1 12 Midnight Circus - added a OWW
-1 14 Trinity Force - added a steel block
-1 15 Conventional Method - locked the RR

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Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2021, 11:03:34 AM »
Well done Turrican. I must admit I was stuck already on quite a few levels of this first rank. For some reason level 4 gave me a lot of problems. Now I see the solution and it's not hard at all. :forehead:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2021, 02:57:25 AM »
V1.9 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 04 Kiwi Pie - added a fire, added a bit of terrain
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2021, 11:42:20 PM »
@ Armani  and NieSch : Thank you for your comments! :thumbsup:

I found the time , and tried some more levels from the pack. I have solved 7 levels from the second rank.

Here are the replays for the levels 4-6 , 11 , 14 , 18 and 20 from the second rank. Very nice levels again , especially 20 , was really fun.

My favourite of these levels , are 4 , 14 and 20.
My Youtube channel ( Turrican Lemm )  :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYGFBOHdYITHlsqa203Tu8Q

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2021, 04:12:16 PM »
IchoTolot, in one of your replies you missed out the v is solving.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2021, 12:00:03 PM »
@Turrican (click to show/hide)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2021, 12:41:03 PM »
V2.0 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 08 No Devil Lived on - -1cloner, +1basher, -1save requirement
-3 09 Naughty Kids - added some traps
-3 10 Almost Paradise - removed a bit of terrain
-3 14 Triple Trouble in Space! - added a steel block
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2021, 04:52:58 AM »
V2.1 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 02 Steps of the Rite - fixed a visual error
-3 08 No Devil Lived on - -1basher, -1jumper, +1climber, added some OWWs
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2021, 04:35:04 AM »
V2.2 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 18 V Stands for Victory - added some water, added a steel block
-3 19 Mysterious Circle - added some fire, added a trap, The starting platform is now a steel.
-3 20 Fall in the Dark - added a steel block, removed a bit of terrain
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2021, 02:59:45 AM »
V2.3 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 19 Mysterious Circle - added a bit of terrain, added some fire
-3 20 Fall in the Dark - removed a bit of terrain
-4 02 Medieval Romance - removed a bit of steel
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2021, 05:52:33 AM »
V2.4 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-4 02 Medieval Romance - added a bit of steel, -1cloner, +1swimmer, -1save requirement, added a stoner pick-up skill and -1 stoner
-4 08 A Dance of Fire and Ice - new talisman "Pure Perfect!": save 21/30(1more than required)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2021, 11:21:37 AM »
V2.5 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-4 05 Deep Inside the Beehive - added a bit of terrain
-4 07 Return of the Troublesome Trio - -1jumper, +1shimmier
-4 08 A Dance of Fire and Ice - removed a bit of terrain
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2021, 02:05:08 AM »
V2.6 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-4 08 A Dance of Fire and Ice - added a steel block
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2021, 08:37:45 AM »
V2.7 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-4 11 Dungeon of Despair - fixed a visual error
-5 06 RefleXion - -5save requirement, -5total lemmings
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2021, 09:34:08 PM »
Hi Armani,

I'm just posting to let you know that I've started my LP of your level pack. Link here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJsrZJRZKTb2AATwWeHNlA2c. It has officially begun: My quest to solve all of Uncharted, or die trying. Figuratively, of course. Wish me luck!

So far, played the first 5 levels, and wow, the difficulty already starts out high. Actually, in my experiences, it starts easy, then hard, then medium, then hard again, then easy. Perhaps the more open-ended levels will come later in the first rank? With the first 5 levels, it already brings back United Pacifism rank vibes, only this pack seems to start harder.

I will likely post again after I finish the Aries rank! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2021, 08:24:05 PM »
First three ranks completed.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2021, 08:52:20 AM »
Hello Armani,

I have completed the Aries rank, so here are my replays.

General Feedback

Wow, I'm really enjoying this pack a lot. There are plenty of difficult levels already in the first rank, but many of these are quite satisfying to figure out and solve. Lots of great tilesets here and custom music. Your great artistry definitely shows a lot in these pretty landscapes you make, although I'm pretty sure there are way more mind-blowing visual ones much later in the pack.

Aries Rank Feedback

I honestly would say the start is already harder than the Pacifism rank of United. However, the level that is way too hard for the first rank is Aries 10 - Detective Milla on the Case. I ended up being stuck there for a few days. Despite that, it is one of my favorites! ;) Also, luckily a lot of the levels are much easier after you get past Aries 10, and that's exactly what I saw.

In my experiences, Aries 1 is easy, Aries 2 is hard, Aries 3 is Medium, Aries 4 hard, and Aries 5 was easy. So really, in just the first 5 levels, the difficulty jumps around quite a bit and hence the difficulty is a bit wonky in the first rank.

More detailed feedback on the levels:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


For the most part, I really enjoyed these first rank levels, especially many of the ones after Aries 10. I look forward to the other challenges of the pack in the other ranks. Once again, nice job Armani! :thumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2021, 03:40:19 AM »
Thanks for all the replays and feedbacks! and also LP videos. I've been enjoying them a lot :thumbsup:
All the feedbacks, I'll keep that in mind and they will be valuable assets for my future projects.

I think I already responded to your solutions on YT comments, but I have several things I forgot to mention:

Aries7 Easy as MAS101: The title came from Namida's level "Easy as A Bee C"(first level of LPO2). And MAS101 is the subject code of calculus at my university.
Aries8 BlockChain Company: This is the only level that has a repeat level in later rank. There will be a level with same terrains, more restricrtive skillset, higher save requirement etc.

I think I'm going to update the pack everytime you finish a rank. And for now, I will wait for your feedbacks on which levels to swap positions with Aries10.

Good luck with your LP on Gemini rank :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2021, 03:42:04 AM »
V2.8 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-1 01 King's Cove - added a steel block
-1 12 Midnight Circus - added a steel block, builders are now pick-ups
-4 12 Sweet Mirages - added a trap
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2021, 12:20:03 PM »
I think the solution for Aries 1 is this, but I'm confused about...

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Got me thinking for a while. Nice level, a bit hard -only for me, since I am still not used to the new skills :-[-

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2021, 02:10:26 PM »
Yes you got the correct solution :thumbsup:

Fall distance is measured from the starting point of jump, not the top of a Jumper's arc.
It can be confusing at first I can understand that.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2021, 02:31:52 PM »
Fall distance is measured from the starting point of jump, not the top of a Jumper's arc.
It can be confusing at first I can understand that.

It actually depends on when and where the lemming goes into the fall state (Uninterrupted, the jumper goes into the fall state at the same height as where he jumped from. If a jumper hits his head then Fall distance is calculated from where the lemming hit his head which would be higher.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2021, 10:13:25 AM »
Completed the second rank, so I'm back with more replays and feedback :)

Gemini Rank Feedback

Levels are harder here, but still plenty of great levels with excellent solutions! The entire rank was slow going, but after much struggling I managed to make it all the way through.

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40 levels in and I still continue to enjoy your pack very much, Armani! :thumbsup: I might had only been able to generally take on about 2 levels each time per video in this rank, but this shows how the pack is already getting difficult even in the second rank. I expect the third rank to be more or less the same. So, it seems that it's just going to be one long slug to the finish line, but I will keep persevering and try and make it to the very end. So far, I haven't let the difficulty get to me and make me collapse under tremendous pressure.

I'm also very happy to see and read your comments on my solutions on my YT videos and that you're continuing to enjoy my LP of your pack very much :) More to still come later! ;)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2021, 02:14:02 AM »
V2.9 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-2 06 BPM37093 - added a button to push
-2 07 Rush Hour - added some steel blocks
-2 12 Magic Box - new talisman "Schrodinger's Lemming!": complete using no more than 4 bashers
-2 14 Crossover - lowered the water objects by 1pixel so lemmings can't just walk through the water anymore
- corrected some grammar errors in the pretext of the following levels: 2 16 Brakes Failed, 2 20 Never Let You Alone
-4 15 Help Yourself - added a steel block, added a fire
« Last Edit: October 06, 2021, 01:33:03 PM by Armani »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2021, 02:22:12 AM »
@kaywhyn :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I'm surprised that only 5 levels have been backrouted so far. :lem-mindblown:
I expected you to backroute about half of the levels in the worst scenario :crylaugh:
So far I've watched all your vids other than the last one, and yes I've been really enjoying them 8-)
I notice that most of my contest levels are in 2nd rank. There will be 2 or 3 more contest levels in 3rd rank and after that all other levels are brand new levels.
I decided to keep some of your solution that save some skills as challenge solutions and add a new talisman cos I was quite impressed by your solution to that level.

Hope you enjoy the rest of the pack as well :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2021, 08:56:52 AM »
Leo, the third rank, has fallen, so I'm back with more replays and feedback :)

edit: Reattached zip file with the correct name, as it should say "up through Leo rank" instead of "up through Gemini rank." Oops :-[

Leo Rank Feedback

Levels get harder but are still manageable given enough time. In particular, Leo 2 was a huge roadblock like you mentioned, as that one took me the longest out of any other level in the rank. Leo 4 was also another one I struggled with, as well as Leo 6, but the latter I was able to get it solved in the same video. It also happens to be one of my favorites! :thumbsup: Needless to say, the Leo rank was also slow going just like the Gemini rank, but I still managed to power my way through the rank despite being super busy and exhausted from work each day.

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Well, that's 3 ranks completed and hence 60/100 levels solved. Two ranks and 40 levels remain. I expect to get majorly stumped with the final two ranks. As a matter of fact, I've already had an attempt at Libra 1 and I couldn't solve it. It's so not a "breather" like you claimed in the pre-text :XD: Then again, you did say there's a huge spike in the difficulty going from the third to the fourth rank, and similarly from the fourth to the fifth rank. I guess the spike already hits with Libra 1.

As usual, I'm continuing to enjoy the pack! :thumbsup: Here's hoping that I can make it through the last two ranks too. However, since I managed to get stumped badly at various places throughout in each of the earlier ranks, I don't expect the rest of the pack to be smooth sailing from here at all. Also, thanks again for all the Youtube video comments on my solutions :) Glad to hear my LP is still continuing to be very enjoyable for you to watch.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2021, 01:45:04 PM »
@kaywhyn
Thanks again :thumbsup: I've downloaded and watched all your replays so hopefully I can respond to your solutions after I catch up your LP videos for 3rd rank ;)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2021, 01:45:50 PM »
V3.0 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-3 04 Kiwi Pie - a basher is now a pick-up, new talisman "Two Lemmings with One Stone": complete using no more than 1 stoner
-3 08 No Devil Lived on - added a OWW
-3 14 Triple Trouble in Space! - added some steel blocks
-3 15 Art of Puzzle Solving - lowered the fire object a little bit, locked the RR
-3 17 Polaris Rhapsody - corrected some grammar errors in the pretext
-3 18 V stands for Victory - added a OWW, added a steel block
-3 19 Mysterious Circle - a climber is now a pick-up
-3 20 Fall in the Dark - added a steel block
-4 15 Help Yourself -  remade the solution
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2021, 02:14:31 PM »
Wow, perfect timing. I've already downloaded v3.0 of the pack, so I'll be good and ready to go for rank 4 when I get home from work just so I don't forget later on. I've had this happen plenty of times where I often forget to download the pack again when there's a new version before I start LPing due to having downloaded the pack so long ago, so when an update is released I forget to redownload. Needless to say, just preparing ahead of time to prevent that from happening ;)

So, it appears I was correct with beating you with 3 15 and 3 18, as I guessed my solutions to those levels were backroutes :laugh: I didn't think 3 19 and 3 20 were at all, so I found more backroutes than I thought I did :P Well, I guess that's a good thing, as sometimes the level/pack designer doesn't always catch them alone. Glad to help in this regard.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2021, 03:31:17 AM »
V3.1 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-4 05 Deep Inside the Beehive - added some steel blocks
-4 06 Mr Lem's Secret Wine Cellar - added a steel block
-4 08 A Dance of Fire and Ice - a miner is now a pick-up
-4 10 Bloodthirster - removed some steel blocks and added some normal terrain and fire there
-4 11 Dungeon of Despair - added a OWW, modified terrain near the exit
-4 12 Sweet Mirages - swapped the positions of a stoner pick-up and a bomber pick-up
-4 18 Moonlight Sculptor - removed a bit of terrain, added a fire
-4 20 Another Hero Time - added some steel blocks
-5 01 Game of the Century - added a OWW, added some steel blocks, added a fire
-5 15 Simulation: FARO - modified terrain a bit in the middle of the level, +10save requirement, +10total lemmings

Positioning change:
- 1 10 Detective Milla is on the Case <---> 3 12 Life is Suffering

New level:


Meanwhile in a Parallel Universe

- The old 3 18(V Stands for Victory) is replaced by the new 3 18(Meanwhile in a Parallel Universe)


I was not happy with the quality of the old 3 18(V Stands for Victory), so I decided to replace it with a new level.
I can assure you that the new level has much more interesting solution than the old one. ;)
For someone who still want to play the old 3 18, I attached level and solution replay files of it below.
Sorry for the inconvenience to those who already played or are playing the level/pack. :(

There will be no positioning change of the levels and removing the existing levels from now on.

@kaywhyn
I still have to look at your videos and solutions. I will update the pack one more time when you finish 4th rank :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: December 29, 2021, 02:17:59 AM by Armani »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2021, 07:15:48 AM »
V3.2 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-3 18 Meanwhile in a Parallel Universe - added a bit of terrain near the exit
-4 20 Another Hero Time - added a steel block, added a fire
-5 01 Game of the Century - added some water
-5 02 Overpopulation - added a fire
-5 03 Jumping Bees - added some steel blocks, added a trap, removed some water
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2021, 02:41:40 PM »
V3.3 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 01 Game of the Century - modified terrain near the exit, -1jumper, +1shimmier
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2021, 04:07:00 AM »
V3.4 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 18 Meanwhile in a Parallel Universe - added a bit of terrain
-4 20 Another Hero Time - builders are now pick-ups

seems like the troublesome level has finally been patched out properly :XD:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2021, 06:24:22 AM »
Libra rank finally completed. Replays attached, as well as more feedback. Also, as I forgot to download v3.4 of the pack before I started recording part 44 of the LP, I decided to quickly resolve Libra 20, so the replay in the collection is for v3.4. The solution you see in the video is for v3.1, so quite a ways from the most recent version :XD: It seems to still be a backroute, though :P

Libra Rank Feedback

Now the levels really get to the point where the high difficulty starts showing. Not that it wasn't present in the earlier ranks, but in this rank it's now at the point where the LP slowed considerably where I could pretty much only get one level solved per video, as it was pretty much stumpers back-to-back. This therefore indicates that the pack's quite hard, so it seems the difficulty classification in the OP is quite accurate here. The only time when I was able to solve multiple levels were simply where there were contest levels, as I've already played and solved them. The only ones I haven't played of yours is from LDC #19, although they're probably not in the pack. I have a feeling that the final contest levels of the pack are in this rank.

Already right out of the gate I was stumped with Libra 1, even though you mention in the pre-text that it's a "breather." It's totally not btw, but now that I've read your description of the intended solution via the YT comment it goes to show you that even levels with no fancy tricks needed can still be very difficult. Yes, I agree that the solution itself isn't difficult, but being able to find it is a different matter, which of course varies from player to player. Be assured that you're far from being the only one who underestimates the difficulty of your own levels. This goes for any designer, as it's very hard for one to judge the difficulty of one's own pack, which is why feedback is helpful for the content creator.

Of course, the other saving grace of the levels really showing their brutal difficulty is how there seems to be a lot of levels that can still be solved via backroutes ;P

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Well, it was a very long and hard struggle through the penultimate rank, but I finally made it through. This was even on top of me being tired from work every day for the past few weeks and hence my time to LP the pack is far more limited. Except for the weekends, where I'm able to upload more videos than I can on the weekdays. Even with the very short work day I had last Friday and the day off I had this week, I didn't make too much progress at all with the LP, so that advantage was nullified. :crylaugh:

In any case, I'm finally on the 5th and final rank of the pack. Already solved Aquarius 1, and again I forgot to download the new version of the pack before recording, and so it's a backroute. Even then, I think I'm all caught up on the most recent versions of every level, so I should be good to go. The rank already starts off quite difficult, so it's bringing back nightmares of being stuck hard on Genocide 1 of United :crylaugh: Likely a sample of things to come, so it'll likely take a really long time to get through the remaining 19 levels of the pack. However, as I'm quite far into the pack now, I'm quite determined to keep going until the very end! :)

Wish me luck, and I know you'll get yourself all caught up on my LP videos in no time! :thumbsup: Thanks again for all the feedback/compliments and support through the entire playthrough.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2021, 12:29:26 PM »
Thanks for all the replays, feedbacks and LPvideos! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
And congratulation for reaching the final rank
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I've finally catched up some of your LPvidoes.
I won't procastinate watching vids from now on.(hopefully :crylaugh:)

Overall you've found intended solutions for most of the levels until 3rd rank and 4th rank.... is gonna be a backroute-fest. :evil:
Granted, the more a certain level is complicated, the more backroute-prone it is.
But you also found some very interesting solutions that I'm willing to take them as alternative solutions or challenge solutions.

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The only time when I was able to solve multiple levels were simply where there were contest levels, as I've already played and solved them. The only ones I haven't played of yours is from LDC #19, although they're probably not in the pack. I have a feeling that the final contest levels of the pack are in this rank.

I'm not 100 sure but only about half of my contest levels are in this pack. The main reason why some levels are rejected is that I wasn't too happy with the quality of them. And my two levels from LDC#19(I can't even remember their titles :P) are obvious examples. If you LP previous contest levels in the future, you will see them eventually.(One of them is very very vulnerable to backroutes and I gave up fixing them. And I can't even remember what another level looks like!)

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Already right out of the gate I was stumped with Libra 1, even though you mention in the pre-text that it's a "breather." It's totally not btw, but now that I've read your description of the intended solution via the YT comment it goes to show you that even levels with no fancy tricks needed can still be very difficult. Yes, I agree that the solution itself isn't difficult, but being able to find it is a different matter, which of course varies from player to player. Be assured that you're far from being the only one who underestimates the difficulty of your own levels. This goes for any designer, as it's very hard for one to judge the difficulty of one's own pack, which is why feedback is helpful for the content creator.

Yeah. (old)Aries10 is an obvious example. The difficulty still jumps around here and their but it's my first pack and I can't expect too much at my first attempt. :crylaugh: Hopefully my next project will have more smooth difficulty curve.

I found it funny that my list of favorite levels and your list have a lot of levels in common though!(Libra3, 9, 13, 15...) I'm really happy that I'm not the only one who enjoy these levels. :laugh:


Good luck with your LP on final rank ;) It won't be easy but I believe you will complete it eventually if you don't give up. :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2021, 12:31:21 PM »
V3.5 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-4 01 Flattening Process - moved the steel block slightly to the left
-4 14 Medium Well-done - added a OWW
-4 15 Help Yourself - new talisman "Don't Try This at Home if You are Not kaywhyn": save 35/40(1more than required) using no more than 2 climbers
-4 18 Moolight Sculptor - added a fire
-4 19 Slip 'N Slide - added a steel block
-4 20 Another Hero Time - added some steel blocks
-5 03 Jumping Bees - added a steel block
-5 09 IRON JUGGERNAUT 2 - jumpers are now pick-ups
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2021, 12:46:36 PM »
-4 15 Help Yourself - new talisman "Don't Try This at Home if You are Not kaywhyn": save 35/40(1more than required) using no more than 2 climbers

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2021, 12:00:40 PM »
BIG update 8-)

V3.6 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-5 04 Rhythmical - added some water, locked the RR
-5 05 Abandoned Library - added some fire, added a button
-5 06 RefleXion - added a bit of terrain, added a time limit of 2:10
-5 07 Double-Edged Sword - added a bit of terrain, added a steel block, increased the save requirement by 1
-5 08 Purity and Industry - added a steel block
-5 09 IRON JUGGERNAUT 2 - modified a bit of terrain, moved the position of a jumper pick-up
-5 10 Triple Lutz - added some fire, added a steel block, a blocker is now a pick-up
-5 11 Lost in an Ice Cave - added some steel blocks
-5 12 Butterfly Effect - removed a bit of terrain, added some traps, added a steel block
-5 13 System Malfunction - added a steel block
-5 15 Simulation FARO - swapped the positions of a basher pick-up and a platformer pick-up
-5 16 Facade of Indifference - modified terrain a bit in the left side of the level
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2021, 02:18:57 PM »
Oh dang, I found so many backroutes! :P Practically every level in the final rank has been one except for the first three levels. Woot woot, go me! :laugh: Bet you're thankful for this, especially since the last two ranks have mostly been untested. Well, as you may have seen, down to the final 5 levels of the pack now, and I have every intention to finish it/the LP up :)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2021, 09:55:45 AM »
And, the Aquarius rank has fallen and hence I have solved the entire pack! If I'm not mistaken, I'm probably the first person to do so :) My entire replay collection is attached. Also, I decided to resolve Aquarius 1, since the one in the LP is for an unpatched version. Everything else in the LP for the Aquarius rank should be up-to-date.

Aquarius Rank Feedback

The hardest levels of the entire pack are found in this rank, and hence it was a very long struggle, even more so than the Libra rank. Pretty much the entire rank was very hard, and it definitely shows in my LP, as most of the time I could only solve one level per video. There were only a few videos where I was able to solve two levels in one, and there was even one where I could had been able to take down 3 in one, but alas that wasn't the case. It also happens to be the longest video in the entire LP, over 1.5 hours :crylaugh: Sorry about that, I guess I was very determined to get Aquarius 14 solved, but I gave up in the end and my brain was just hurting :XD:

However, the saving grace in this rank is how I managed to backroute pretty much every level! :P Last I checked the update patched up through 5 16, so pretty much the only levels that weren't were 5 2, 5 3, and 5 14. Sorry to disappoint you, but I think I might have found a backroute in each of the final 4 levels of the rank as well :laugh: So, that pretty much makes every solution a backroute except for the three levels mentioned, but let's wait for your feedback on 5 17 - 5 20.

The fact that I've even managed to solve levels in this rank is just beyond belief for me here, particularly since the difficulty is described by you as "extreme~" :crylaugh: Which I think is appropriate, as practically every level in the rank was a very big struggle for me.

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What can I say that hasn't been said yet? This is quite a well-done pack despite all the numerous backroutes I've found in the later ranks :thumbsup: I definitely enjoyed it a lot, and I'm still in disbelief that I managed to make it through to the very end with the LP. Before starting it, you will recall that I had fears that I was going to regret the decision to LP it due to signing up what sounds to be quite a difficult pack. However, since I managed to make it through to the very end after 66 videos, I don't have any regrets whatsoever :P What's even more amazing is how I managed to solve both United and Uncharted, something not many people will be able to say. Hence, I consider this quite a wonderful accomplishment to have done both :)

To the others, beware that Uncharted is a very hard pack, almost up there with United, but after having played through the entire thing, I definitely agree that it isn't as hard as United. However, it starts off harder than United IMO, and manages to stay more or less the same in difficulty, with the occasional odd level that's considerably harder than most of the other levels in the rank, up through the Leo rank. Then, once you get into the 4th rank, the difficulty really steps up. In my experiences, it was a very hard and long struggle, and even more so with the 5th and final rank. Even then, don't let the very high difficulty intimidate you. I certainly didn't when I played through United most of last year. However, it is a large time commitment, and you have to be willing to take on the levels and allow yourself to struggle and be stuck on them if you are to make any kind of progress. Admittedly, a lot of the patched up versions I don't have a clue as to how to go about solving them, but I'm one of those people who usually doesn't go back and resolve backroute fixed levels. I might do it for this pack, but I'm not sure. I'm almost certain that I won't, though.

Overall, wonderful job with your first level pack, Armani! :) I look forward to your next project that you're working on, as well as any future levels of yours. Good luck to anyone who's willing to take up playing and solving this pack! ;)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2021, 01:13:14 PM »
Thanks again for feedback, replays and LP videos! :thumbsup: I’ve tried to watch at least one video everyday so now I only have 3 or 4 videos to watch. ;)

Unfortunately, most of the solutions to 5th ranks are backroutes. :( So not much things to mention for individual levels.. but here we go! :)

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And, the Aquarius rank has fallen and hence I have solved the entire pack! If I'm not mistaken, I'm probably the first person to do so :)
Yeah I know what you mean but I want to keep the title "First person to complete Lemmings Uncharted" for someone who will solve every level of the pack with intended or at least acceptable solutions in the future.

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To the others, beware that Uncharted is a very hard pack, almost up there with United, but after having played through the entire thing, I definitely agree that it isn't as hard as United. However, it starts off harder than United IMO, and manages to stay more or less the same in difficulty, with the occasional odd level that's considerably harder than most of the other levels in the rank, up through the Leo rank. Then, once you get into the 4th rank, the difficulty really steps up. In my experiences, it was a very hard and long struggle, and even more so with the 5th and final rank. Even then, don't let the very high difficulty intimidate you. I certainly didn't when I played through United most of last year. However, it is a large time commitment, and you have to be willing to take on the levels and allow yourself to struggle and be stuck on them if you are to make any kind of progress. Admittedly, a lot of the patched up versions I don't have a clue as to how to go about solving them, but I'm one of those people who usually doesn't go back and resolve backroute fixed levels. I might do it for this pack, but I'm not sure. I'm almost certain that I won't, though.
The intended solutions of the levels from the last two ranks are still hidden. And almost all the best and the hardest puzzles and new tricks of the pack are there. So I think it’s hard to judge the difficulty of the pack at this point, especially since majority of the backroutes so far were major ones. ;)

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Overall, wonderful job with your first level pack, Armani! :) I look forward to your next project that you're working on, as well as any future levels of yours. Good luck to anyone who's willing to take up playing and solving this pack! ;)
There were some mind-boggling solutions.(your solutions to “Magic box” and Help Yourself“ come to my mind. Especially my mind got blown by your solution to ”Help Yourself“ so I thought I have to pay some kinds of tribute to you and added a talisman. XD)
Can’t thank you enough for playing the pack and all the backroutes! You’ve been a GREAT help to improve the pack! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:





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V3.7 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-5 01 Game of the Century - moved some fire, added a OWW
-5 02 Overpopulation - -1shimmier
-5 16 Facade of Indifference - modified terrain a bit
-5 17 Forgive Us - added some fire above the hatch
-5 18 One Lemming to Rule Them All - removed the background, a basher is now a pick-up
-5 19 Immoral Society - modified terrain a bit, added a trap
-5 20 Lovebirds Duet - corrected some grammar errors in the pretext, added a steel block
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

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  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2021, 10:40:53 PM »
Yeah I know what you mean but I want to keep the title "First person to complete Lemmings Uncharted" for someone who will solve every level of the pack with intended or at least acceptable solutions in the future.

Fair point, although keep in mind that not everyone is like you in resolving patched up levels :P What is considered a level pack "solved" seems to mean different things to different people. For example, despite a lot of backroutes still abound, Strato still considers me the first one to have completed all of Lemmicks and Old Formats LWT.

For me, it simply means solving every level of the pack at least once, and so most of the time I don't bother to go back and resolve backroute fixed levels. Once I've gotten through a level pack, I consider myself done with that particular level pack and generally move on to other ones and usually don't look back. For your pack, I may or may not do it, but I think I will, for the most part, won't. From my understanding, I'm not the only one who does this, although there's still some number of people who are like you as well in resolving patched up levels even after having solved the entire pack.

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The intended solutions of the levels from the last two ranks are still hidden. And almost all the best and the hardest puzzles and new tricks of the pack are there. So I think it’s hard to judge the difficulty of the pack at this point, especially since majority of the backroutes so far were major ones. ;)

Your pack is less than half as long as United, as well as having about only half the number of levels per rank that United does. So, the difficulty of the levels of Uncharted increasing much faster than United is kind of justified. At the same time, your pack does make use of both of the two new NL skills that just got added to the stable release earlier this year, and because most of us seem to still be getting used to their mechanics, that's why the levels featuring them can feel quite hard, but if one is familiar with them then they won't seem or feel as hard. Similarly, I have an inkling that United could possibly be much harder had there been levels featuring both the shimmier and the jumper skills in the main ranks, but the only reason they don't is due to how the level pack was made before they were in the stable release. Even more, you only see levels featuring the shimmier skill in the Bonus rank of United, but no levels featuring the jumper.

For now, I still consider your level pack not as difficult as United, so I'm in a bit of agreement with your supposed prediction of the difficulty compared to it, although I think I can confidently say that the 5th rank's difficulty seems to exceed that of United's Genocide rank. At least it feels like it, just because of how it was a very long struggle throughout the entire rank. I even look back on some of the Aquarius levels and I still don't understand why I struggled on some of them, as I see now that some of the solutions aren't that hard at all. I still think it's something that goes on while one is LPing. Doing that and solving on camera doing both well is far harder than it seems! :laugh: However, it's not all bad, as it at least allows a glance into how one approaches level solving in real time.

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There were some mind-boggling solutions.(your solutions to “Magic box” and Help Yourself“ come to my mind. Especially my mind got blown by your solution to ”Help Yourself“ so I thought I have to pay some kinds of tribute to you and added a talisman. XD)
Can’t thank you enough for playing the pack and all the backroutes! You’ve been a GREAT help to improve the pack! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

It was my pleasure to LP your pack and to help you along with finding horrible backroutes to many of these levels :thumbsup: I think, by my approximation, I helped to find backroutes to about half the number of levels in the pack, which, all things considered, is quite a lot, although it definitely could had been worse :P I thought I would find way more than that, though honestly sometimes I think I'm not as good at backrouting levels as I think I am :laugh: Rather, I seem to be really good at overcomplicating and finding quite messy and fiddly solutions.

Thanks again for the tribute for the talisman for Libra 15! :thumbsup: However, while I was recording the outros in the final LP video, I noticed something very strange, and that is when I clicked to display the talisman for the level my name is completely cut off, i.e, you don't see it at all. It simply says "Don't try this at home if you are not" and then it stops there without displaying my username. That kind of ruined a special moment for me in the video, but I explained to the viewers what it's really supposed to say. I wonder if that is due to a character limit or a bug. I'll make sure to report this as a bug if it is one.

edit: Ok, I investigated further and it is not a bug but due to the character limit. When typing the name of the talisman, it simply stops at the word "not" and therefore doesn't allow you type my username. The only workaround I can think of at the moment is that it's simply called "Don't Try This If You Are Not Kaywhyn." This would allow you to get my username on there, though maybe there can be a suggestion to increase the character limit for talisman names.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2021, 01:19:54 AM »
Ah yes, it seems like there's the character limit for talisman names.
At first I wrote the talisman name in window default text program and copied&pasted it to the NL editor and it worked well.
But it seems like it doesn't display in NL player properly.

I personally prefer the original talisman name but for the time being, I made the talisman name "Don't Try This If You Are Not Kaywhyn" as you suggested.
If there'll be some kind of updates on increasing the character limit for talisman names, we can go back to original name. ;)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2021, 08:18:53 AM »
I personally prefer the original talisman name but for the time being, I made the talisman name "Don't Try This If You Are Not Kaywhyn" as you suggested.
If there'll be some kind of updates on increasing the character limit for talisman names, we can go back to original name. ;)

Yes, I agree that what you named the talisman originally is the better one. My suggestion is simply a workaround in the meantime :P In that case, I'll likely report a suggestion for allowing more characters for talisman names then. Since it's for the NL editor, I think this should be fine, since there's no hard deadline for it to reach a "final" version.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2021, 06:04:51 AM »
V3.8 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 06 RefleXion - repositioned one of the trap, added some water, changed the skillset a bit
-5 13 System Malfunction - added a OWW
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #60 on: April 02, 2022, 11:52:41 AM »
V3.9 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 18 Meanwhile in a Parallel Universe - modified terrain a bit
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2022, 08:25:20 AM »
V4.0 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 04 Kiwi Pie - added some fire, added a time limit of 3:30
-3 08 No Devil Lived On - a blocker is now a pick-up
-3 18 Meanwhile in a Parallel Universe - added a steel block
-3 20 Fall in the Dark - removed a steel block
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0