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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #105 on: December 08, 2020, 12:29:39 PM »
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Extremely impressive! :thumbsup:

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Nothing lucky about it, you persevered and the practice paid off! This is excellent stuff, I can imagine how that must have felt to nail it eventually ;P

Well done!!! :lemcat:

Thanks guys.:) That was definitely my hardest stuff i ever done pause free. I was pretty close give up with this. But luckily not give up. But totally take around one week to practice that. I already did 97% which allow some pixel errors and that was very hard one too. Making 99% is just masterwork. I am glad i finally make it.8-)
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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #106 on: December 10, 2020, 10:53:08 AM »
Just test some potential strategys which might be possible without pausing game.

I got find Mayhem 10 Pillar of Hercules (3-lost) glitch free and releaserate free solution. Its technically could work without pausing game any time. But like a lot Taxing 16 100% both will includes tons very precise and pixel perfect timings. I think this one will be really frustrated one play without pausing, but quickly look, every cursors and every timings could be performs pause free. So i´ll pretty sure 3 lost Mayhem 10 pause free could working using that way.

Mayhem 10. 72/75 glitch free (also pause assist with this time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkID12FIeP8&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

I already used very easy solution make 72/75. But this glitch change blocker to builder make this definitely impossible make in pause free gameplay. Its requires mandatory pausing once. So this strat will be out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MO5hL9Tqfk&t=1s&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

73/75 requires slide glitch so pause free gameplay will be for sure impossible.

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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #107 on: December 10, 2020, 01:30:44 PM »
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So i´ll pretty sure 3 lost Mayhem 10 pause free could working using that way.

Mayhem 10. 72/75 glitch free (also pause assist with this time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkID12FIeP8&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Finally make correct starting without pausing. That is probably most hardest part. Really fast reflex requires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R3ZsWPLZQ4&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

How ever i think i want make my solution little bit easier. When i looked better my pause assist version i think i can avoid two pixel perfect timing at end. 1 ST: use builder turn climber and thats let you one more basher remain and cost one more builder. 2ND you can use basher cancel the builder middle of the pillar. Its cost extra builder, but its look my pause version let 2 builders remain so its allowed. Then i can at least avoid two pixel perfect tricks at end.

This look this basher roulette manipulation at end cannot be avoid. Its just better are luck when make it. But i might still check out some release rate things.If i can compress lemmings better, im not need that pure luck at end. Its make this much less painful.

But for sure its strongly look 3 lost route will happen without pausing.

I think i have to keep just trying this like fucking hell.
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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #108 on: December 10, 2020, 06:55:14 PM »
Mayhem 10. 72/75 glitch free (also pause assist with this time)

This solution is brilliant! :thumbsup:

The Builder/Basher trick to stretch a bridge is one that I've used a few times in my levels so I'm kicking myself that I didn't think to try it for Pillars of Hercules! Anyways, I've done a variation on this solution for NeoLemmix (not pause-free) so the record of 72/75 can go into Max Saves (I've credited you for giving me the initial idea, of course!)

Nice work! I'm glad these Pause-free challenges are helping us to find new records as well! :lemcat:

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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #109 on: December 11, 2020, 02:44:21 AM »
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This solution is brilliant! :thumbsup:

Thanks. I just plan little bit easier version and finally make actual Pause free completion ;)

Pillars of Hercules 72/75 saved without pausing ;P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhON0f_mrko&ab_channel=metroidmaster88
Only 230 recorded attempts and 4 hours. Only around 10 attempts pass first 50 seconds to level.
This solution is pretty similar as my completion solution earlier.  I also got find useful releaserate tip, but i little bit mess up it my video. So i have to mostly are lucky perform this basher roulette at very end. I actually die my game with this once before.

That was my another masterwork solution after Tricky 23 99%. That was actually even harder, because here is much more pixel perfect timings. Luckily all most hard things are very beginning of the level.


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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #110 on: December 11, 2020, 12:28:17 PM »
Current youtube pause free play videos are updated: Also level challenge type & difficult level is added

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u

Current challenge into list:

Type: Completion, 100%, Speedrun, Challenge
Difficulty: Extremely Easy is easies & Extremely Hard is hardest. Im not are post easiest levels.

Taxing 22 Come over to my place 100% completion solution under 1 minutes
Type: speedrun/completion)
Difficulty= Easy/medium)

Taxing 26 Triple Trouble 100% comletion
Type 100% completion
Difficulty= Medium

Taxing 30 We all fall down completion
Type 100%, completion, Speedrun, use All diggers
Difficulty= Medium

Mayhem 1 Steel Works
Type 100% completion
Difficulty: Medium

Mayhem 5 Down, along, up, In that order
Type: Max-% 76/80 saved
Difficulty: Medium-Hard

Mayhem 9 Curse of the Pharaohs
Type 100% completion
Difficulty: Medium-hard

Mayhem 10 Pillar of Hercules
Type max-% legacy  71/75 saved
Difficulty: Medium
Other: 72/75 version is completion done rightnow

Mayhem 15 Fast Food Kitchen
Type 100% completion
Difficulty: Hard

Sunsoft Special 3
Type completion solution
Difficulty: Hard

Sunsoft Special 2
Type completion solution
Difficulty: Medium/hard

Sunsoft Special 4
Type: completion solution
Difficulty: Medium

Sunsoft Sepcial 5
Type completion solution
Difficulty: Medium

Tricky 25 Cascade
Type 100% completion solution
Difficulty: Hard

Mayhem 18 Then There Were Four
Type 100%, Speedrun solution (6:30/9:00 time remain)
Difficulty: Medium

Mayhem 29 Save Me
Type Max-% completion 97/100 saved
Difficulty: Very Hard

Taxing 28 POOR WEE CREATURES
Type Max-% completion 90/100 saved
Difficulty: Very Hard

Taxing 2 Watch out , there is traps about
Type: 100%-% completion & speedrun over 3:30 time remain
Difficulty: Medium/hard

Taxing 10 Izzie Wizzie lemmings get busy
Type: Speedrun Under 1 minutes
Difficulty: Medium/hard

Tricky 22 Turn around young lemmings
Type 100% solution
Difficulty: Hard

Tricky 23 From The Boundary Line
Type max-% completion legacy 97/100 saved
Difficulty: Very hard
Other: 99% version is completed

Mayhem 11 We all fall down
Type: Challenge completion. Use all digger
Difficulty Medium

Taxing 29 How do i dig up the way
Type 100% speedrun solution (goal under 2 minutes)
Difficulty Medium

Mayhem 2 The Boiler Room
Type Max-% 99/100 saved
Difficulty: Medium/hard

Taxing 27 Call in the bomb squad
Type: Max-% 97/100 saved
Difficulty: Hard

Mayhem 21 With a twist of lemming please
Type: Challenge (1st lemmings have to climber=
Difficulty: Hard

Tricky 24 Tightrope City
Type 100% speedrun (in 1 minutes)
Difficulty: Medium/Hard

Mayhem 30 Rendevouz at the mountain
Type 100% speedrun. (under 4 minutes)
Difficulty: Medium

Taxing 21 Feel the heat
Type Speedrun (under 1 minutes)
Difficulty: Easy/medium

Taxing 22 Come on over to my place
Type Challenge (no floaters or blockers is allowed)
Difficulty: Medium

Mayhem 18 And Then There Were Four
Type: Max-% & Challenge. 100% saved builders only allowed to used
Difficulty: Hard


Mayhem 25 Have a nice day
Type: 100% speedrun (under 2 minutes)
Difficulty: Medium

Mayhem 26 Steel Mines of the Kessel
Type: Max-% 95/100 saved
Difficulty: Medium

Tricky 23 From The Boundary Line
Type: Max-% 99/100 saved
Difficulty: Extremely Hard

Mayhem 10 Pillars of Hercules
Type: Max-% 72/75 saved
Difficulty: Extremely Hard

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Archive org list includes even more levels. Some are probably way too easy to show youtube public video. But if you guys wish some levels. I´ll promise make. I personally have two extrmely difficult challenge remain. Just Taxing 16% 100% & Mayhem 19 48/50 saved without pausing, might be super hard ones.

But other challemges is also welcomed. My peronsal favorite was Willlem Mayhem 21 1st climber challenge. That was just fun and hard one too.:)

Rightnow i think i´ll play some easier 100% pause free challenge up in archive. I think my next serious progress is Mayhem 19 (2-lost) 96%

Here is pause assist version. This surely could be done without pausing. But i count 10 pixel timings in row.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGyKtVRqW1s&t=20s&ab_channel=metroidmaster88
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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #111 on: December 11, 2020, 05:00:42 PM »
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Current youtube pause free play videos are updated: Also level challenge type & difficult level is added

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u

Current challenge into list:

Update some easier Taxing & Mayhem solutions 100% pause free. Hidden in playlist, because i want make just my coolest in youtube public.

Taxing 24 Take a Running Jump 1:01/3:00 time remain
Type: Completion 100%, Speedrun
Difficulty: Easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePwtEx2X2g4&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=35&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 23 King of the castle 100% saved
Type Completion 100%
Difficulty: Medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCSPQhkoq8&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=36&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 13 Upside down world 100% saved
Type Completion 100%
Difficulty: Medium/Hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P9T4HovbWM&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=37&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Mayhem 7 Poles Apart 100%
Type 100% completion
Difficulty Easy/medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rLwE1gVRTY&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=38&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Mayhem 8 Last one out is a rotten egg! 100% saved
Type 100% completion
Difficulty: Easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtToq1QG6To&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=39&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Mayhem 22 A beast II of a level 100%
Type 100% completion
Difficulty: Easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi_tQgcXhb0&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=40&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Mayhem 23 Going Up
Type 100% completion
Difficulty: Easy/medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdHIB902lvk&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=41&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Mayhem 19 Time to get Up (3 lost)
Type 94% old legacy (96% is possible)
Difficulty: Easy/medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-490kxmUI5E&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=42&ab_channel=metroidmaster88
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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #112 on: December 11, 2020, 05:51:13 PM »
LOL :D

That old joke/myth. Lemmimgs cannot be played without pausing. I already beated game without pausing. Now I´ll try all hardest max-% without pausing. Most seems very easy. Some are impossible and some extrelemly hard, but possible.

All thanks Willlem who create this topic. :thumbsup: This really motivated me back my favorite game. When i did done my Max- Score challenge i have to find some new ones.
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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #113 on: December 11, 2020, 11:46:09 PM »
All thanks Willlem who create this topic. :thumbsup: This really motivated me back my favorite game. When i did done my Max- Score challenge i have to find some new ones.

You're very welcome, I'm really glad I'm not the only player who enjoys this challenge :lemcat:

And, you seem to be taking it and making it your own with all the extra challenges. At some point I will come up with a new challenge list and see if I can beat some of them as well ;P

Super glad you're having fun with it. That's the main thing.

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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #114 on: December 14, 2020, 11:04:21 AM »
One more challenge solution which might be some interesting.

Mayhem 13 Great Lemmings Caper (use all 38 skills under 1 minutes & without pause game) 4:03/5:00 time remain
That not was easy task. Here is just two blocker and a lot diggers, bashers and miners. Also two bombers have to use very end of the level. This requires some very fast skill switch. I dying quite bit with this challenge.
Difficulty: Hard

This challenge might work Amiga version too. Its just some fun.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L3Vmq9OT98&t=1s&ab_channel=metroidmaster88
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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #115 on: December 15, 2020, 08:22:55 PM »
I think i started are pretty much done all my pause free challenges. Only few level remain in Taxing and those are really borring (for example Hunt the Nessy). Mayhem is pretty much done, expect mayhem 19 2 lost solution, i did 3 lost last time. I´ll also find Taxing 16 Umbrella land 100% pause free nearly humanly impossible, even practice it a lot. Some timings happen too simultaneously and cannot make without pausing. But how ever i did succesfully 50 releaserate solution with pause and one less build lock than WillLemm did, so its allow some errors. I also got it done much higher releaserate 70-61 only, but its still too hard without pausing game.

Few more levels. Nothing really special or hard ones. I think im not going play Fun 1-30 and Tricky 1-13 levels because those are very similar as taxing and mayhem remake revels. So i think its not worth watching. Probably make full 100% completion archive later if i want.

But some done yesterday:

Tricky 30: Crankshaft
Type: 100% speedrun pause free 1:38/4:00 time remain.
Difficulty: Medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UGFPXPiaVM&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=44&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 1 If at first you don´t succeed
Type: 100% pause free speedrun 1:06/4:00 time remain
Difficulty: Medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndchtduxcQY&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=45&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 4 Lend a helping hand
Typer 100% pause free speedrun 4:12/7:00 time remain
Difficulty: Easy/medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5rV6na9SfA&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=46&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 5 The Prison
Type 100% pause free speedrun 3:22/5:00 time remain
Difficulty: Medium/hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVc2hqkpbpw&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=47&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 6 Compression Method 1
Type 100% solution
Difficulty: Medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MubCrH6NxPM&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=48&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 18 Tribute to M.C Escher
Type 100% solution (harder route) Here is much easier one, but its take longer.
Difficulty: Medium/hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gru-HmblzE&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=49&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 20 Walk the web rope
Type 100% Speedrun 3:02/5:00 time remain
Difficulty: Medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chx36qLNOvs&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=50&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

This game started are really done. I think I´ll need some new lemmings challenges.

I think i´ll might buy sega genesis lemmings my real console and might make some new challenges in future. Just really hate use computer keyboards.
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Re: Pause-free playthroughs
« Reply #116 on: December 28, 2020, 06:55:48 PM »
I think i started are pretty much done all my pause free challenges

I really appreciate the interest you've shown in this challenge, and it's certainly been impressive to see some of your solutions. It's amazing what you can come up with when you approach the game in a different way! :lemcat:

What would you say are the main challenges, out of all the ones you've attempted, that are worth having a go at? I would like to do another run of pause-free stuff at some point, and I'd like to do so with your recommendations.

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Re: [ALL PLATFORMS] Pause-free Challenge [PF]
« Reply #117 on: October 28, 2021, 07:19:31 PM »
NES Lemmings
Mayhem 19 How much more can you take pause free completed. That was some seriously hard one. Its hard level even with paused used. How ever i dying a lot attempt break that last blocker, that was pretty nice task.

I recorded it with fceux emulator, but no cheats used. All played real time and also real NES controll used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMF7tgvWXng&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

About other levels. I think here is few levels which will required use mandatory pause button. Just at least Mayhem 16 level; Hello John floater/digger switching is for sure impossible one.

EDIT:
NES Pause free challenge solutions playlist. Those are random order and i am did some my favorite levels. I`ll add levels when i will make this. I really inspirated with this one, when i did Mayhem 19 pause free madness done.
Currently up
Mayhem 3
Mayhem 18
Mayhem 19
Mayhem 21
Mayhem 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2R6In4U6CE&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj0LTlBuyajKU0H-7fmYxmdo&ab_channel=metroidmaster88
« Last Edit: October 28, 2021, 09:32:07 PM by MASTER-88 »
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Re: [ALL PLATFORMS] Pause-free Challenge [PF]
« Reply #118 on: October 28, 2021, 09:22:12 PM »
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Mayhem 19 How much more can you take pause free completed ... How ever i dying a lot attempt break that last blocker, that was pretty nice task.

Well played. I'm just wondering why you used a blocker on the upper level at all... just building to the side could have worked ???

The second video is an interesting one as well, I've never seen that version of the level before...

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Re: [ALL PLATFORMS] Pause-free Challenge [PF]
« Reply #119 on: October 28, 2021, 09:34:57 PM »
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Well played. I'm just wondering why you used a blocker on the upper level at all... just building to the side could have worked ???

Its NES lemmings mechanism. You cannot build to that wall and lock & turn like other lemmings versions. Its just make your lemmings fall to death and cancel & waste your builder, so that 2nd blocker is mandatory with this reason.
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