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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #150 on: November 28, 2020, 09:05:18 AM »
My replays from the above:

Windy 1 "Have A Lem Soda" - 2 builders
Windy 4 "Sandcastles In The Sand" - 7 builders; No diggers (separate replays)
Windy 6 "Diggers Mania" - 6 blockers
Windy 7 "Take On The World" - 7 builders; 1 digger (separate replays)
Windy 8 "Step by Step" - No builder; No digger (separate replays), both are also no climber
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #151 on: November 29, 2020, 04:51:36 AM »
The remainder of Windy and first half of Stormy, solved by me, namida and nin10doadict. There are a lot of levels in this bunch where the result is just "you need all the given skills", but since we started looking at PimoLems, it makes sense to finish the pack:

Windy

11 "From Pillar to Post" - 2 bombers, 1 builder, 2 diggers
12 "Break the Ice" - 2 climbers, 2 floaters, 7 builders
13 "Up the Abacus" - 2 builders, 2 bashers
14 "The Landing Strip" - 2 climbers, 1 bomber, 2 builders, 2 miners
15 "For the Greater Good" - 1 climber, 2 builders, 2 diggers
16 "Try To Compromise Before You Cue" - 2 blockers, 2 bashers, 1 digger
17 "X Marks Nothing" - 1 climber, 1 floater, 3 builders, 1 basher
18 "Underground Water Storage" - 1 basher, 1 miner
19 "Mizmaze" - 1 climber, 1 bomber, 1 builder, 1 basher
20 "Nick of Time !" - 1 climber, 1 floater, 10 builders, 4 bashers

Stormy

1 "Pop'n'top" - 2 climbers, 2 bombers, 1 builder, 2 bashers, 1 miner
2 "Bibbledi-Bobbledi-Boo" - 1 floater, 2 builders, 1 basher, 1 miner
3 "Diamond Ribs" - 2 climbers, 2 floaters, 1 builder, 6 bashers
4 "Rule of Three" - 1 climber, 1 floater, 1 bomber, 9 builders
5 "Timing & Space" - 1 bomber, 3 builders, 1 basher
6 "A Breezy Breeze !" - 1 bomber, 4 builders, 1 basher
7 "Diving Area" - 1 floater, 1 bomber, 1 builder, 3 bashers, 2 diggers
8 "Broad Pit" - 1 climber, 2 floaters, 2 bombers, 1 blocker, 8 builders, 2 bashers, 1 miner
9 "A Matter of Pragmatism" - 1 climber, 3 blockers, 2 bashers, 1 digger
10 "Erbalunga" - 2 builders, 3 bashers, 3 diggers
« Last Edit: November 29, 2020, 05:38:45 AM by Proxima »

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2020, 04:58:27 AM »
I've only looked at Windy 10 to 13 since last time, due to the amount of time I spent on 13. (I'll probably continue soon anyway, but taking a break for now.)

We've got here:

Windy 11 "From Pillar to Post" - 2 bombers
Windy 12 "Break The Ice" - 7 builders; No basher; No digger (3 separate replays; the latter two I'm expecting will be patched out)
Windy 13 "Up The Abacus" - 2 builders; 2 bashers (separate replays)

In particular, Windy 13 with 2 builders is one of my most insane challenge replays of all time.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #153 on: November 29, 2020, 05:57:00 AM »
And the rest of Windy.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #154 on: November 29, 2020, 10:35:58 AM »
Improvements:

Stormy 1 "Pop n top" - 0 climbers, 1 bomber, 1 builder, 2 bashers, 0 miners
Stormy 3 "Diamond Ribs" - 0 climbers, 0 floaters, 0 builders, 5 bashers
Stormy 4 "Rule of Three" - 0 climbers, 0 floaters, 0 bombers, 7 builders
Stormy 8 "Broad Pit" - 1 climber, 1 floater, 1 bomber, 0 blockers, 3 builders, 0 bashers, 0 miners
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #155 on: November 30, 2020, 08:18:25 AM »
Proxima, nin10doadict, namida and I have had a look at Casualemmings - Calm. Here are the results so far:

Calm 1 - None
Calm 2 - 2 Climbers
Calm 3 - 3 Blockers
Calm 4 - 1 Blocker, 1 Stoner
Calm 5 - 1 Basher, 1 Miner
Calm 6 - 5 Swimmers, 1 Platformer
Calm 7 - 5 Floaters, 5 Gliders
Calm 8 - 1 Builder, 3 Fencers
Calm 9 - 2 Stackers, 3 Bashers
Calm 10 - 1 Climber, 1 Platformer, 2 Bashers
Calm 11 - 3 Walkers, 2 Builders
Calm 12 - 5 Bombers
Calm 13 - 1 Climber, 1 Fencer, 1 Digger, 1 Cloner
Calm 14 - 2 Fencers, 1 Miners
Calm 15 - 10 Cloners
Calm 16 - 1 Walker, 1 Fencer, 1 Digger
Calm 17 - 1 Basher
Calm 18 - 10 Climbers, 4 Floaters, 1 Bomber, 1 Builder
Calm 19 - 2 Builders
Calm 20 - 1 Stoner
Calm 21 - 4 Platformers
Calm 22 - 1 Fencer, 1 Basher, 1 Miner, 1 Digger
Calm 23 - 2 Builders
Calm 24 - 5 Builders
Calm 25 - 2 Walkers, 1 Basher, 3 Climbers
Calm 26 - 1 Climber, 2 Gliders, 1 Stoner, 2 Builders
Calm 27 - 1 Climber, 1 Bomber, 1 Builder, 3 Diggers
Calm 28 - 1 Floater, 1 Glider, 1 Platformer
Calm 29 - 1 Swimmer, 1 Floater, 1 Disarmer, 1 Platformer, 1 Builder, 1 Basher, 1 Digger
Calm 30 - 1 Miner, 6 Cloners
Calm 31 - 1 Builder
Calm 32 - 1 Glider, 1 Basher, 1 Miner
Calm 33 - 3 Bombers, 1 Builder
Calm 34 - None
Calm 35 - 1 Walker, 1 Builder, 1 Basher, 1 Fencer, 1 Miner, 1 Digger
Calm 36 - 2 Blockers, 5 Builders, 3 Bashers
Calm 37 - 1 Platformer
Calm 38 - 1 Climber, 2 Bashers, 1 Miner, 4 Diggers
Calm 39 - 10 Gliders, 1 Digger
Calm 40 - 3 Bombers, 1 Basher
Calm 41 - None
Calm 42 - 1 Climber, 1 Builder, 2 Bashers, 1 Fencer, 2 Miners, 2 Diggers
Calm 43 - 1 Floater, 3 Platformers, 2 Miners

Notable replays attached.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 03:03:17 PM by WillLem »

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #156 on: November 30, 2020, 06:37:45 PM »
Here's my notable replays for Casualemmings / Calm (1 to 41; haven't looked at the last two yet).
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #157 on: December 03, 2020, 06:50:47 AM »
Redux / Lunatic 12, eliminated the basher.

EDIT: And my 9 skills replay for Lunatic 13, eliminates one additional builder. EDIT: And then a variation on it eliminates the basher, too.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2020, 07:59:25 AM by namida »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #158 on: December 04, 2020, 09:48:36 AM »
Since we have so many packs in progress at once, I'm making a note to myself to remind myself of which levels I want to have another look at.

* SubLems: Sweet 18 has no result yet and is the only level remaining in this rank.
* MiniLems: Need to look over everything from Taxing 7 onwards. (Minim says Taxing 11 and 16 in particular should be looked at.)
* Lemminas: Pandemonium 13 hasn't been looked at for builders in particular.

Also, an addendum to the Casualemmings results above: Calm 40 needs 2 bombers, not 3.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #159 on: December 04, 2020, 11:21:17 AM »
My best result for Pandemonium 13 is 6 builders (as well as the 2 bashers).

I've solved Pandemonium 1 and agree that it requires all the skills. Since I've now looked at all the levels WillLem and Minim did without me, I'm happy to call these the final results -- until someone finds another improvement ;P

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #160 on: December 04, 2020, 11:28:42 PM »
My 5-skill solution to Lunatic 25 eliminates the bomber.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #161 on: December 05, 2020, 03:25:02 AM »
I finished PimoLems/Stormy. As far as I can see, levels 11-15, 17 and 20 require all the given skills.

16 obviously needs only one floater, and no bombers (since it requires 100%); I was able to save a basher, but I don't think the destructive skills can be rearranged to save something else instead.

19 requires 11 bombers and everything else. 18 is the only one in this group with a surprising result: 2 blockers, 8 builders, 1 basher, 2 diggers. (The attached replay uses two bashers, but one could obviously be switched with a bomber.)

I might hold off on adding Stormy results to the OP, to see whether Icho decides to fix any levels in this rank.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #162 on: December 05, 2020, 05:56:02 PM »
Some more PimoLems replays from yesterday. The Stormy 16 1 Miner, can also very easily be adapted into a no-digger.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #163 on: December 06, 2020, 08:01:03 AM »
And one more.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #164 on: December 09, 2020, 12:52:21 AM »
I've found 2 improvements to Dove Lemmings.

Plain 20 "Wooden House" - Removed 1 climber and 1 miner. New total = 1 climber, 1 bomber, 2 builders, 1 miner
Plain 24 "Sapphire Mine" - Removed 1 builder. New total = 2 builders

[Edit] Can also add:

Plain 14 "Simple Life" - Removed 1 builder. New total = 6 builders
Coward 17 "Lost in the Canyon" - Removed 3 builders. New total = 1 climber, 4 builders, 2 miners
« Last Edit: December 09, 2020, 03:44:52 AM by Pooty »
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