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Re: [NeoLemmix 1.43] Lemmicks - Lemmings with gimmicks! ANOTHER UPDATE
« Reply #75 on: May 25, 2020, 08:39:53 pm »
I didn't try the new rar folders, but I think this is fine, since zip is more commonly used anyway, as far as I know.

I appreciate your continued interest in my other packs! ;) Pit Lems and Paralems are older than Lemmicks, though, so the levels are of much lower quality.

Especially Paralems is really more of a collection of stupid references that aren't really challenging at all, and has a good deal of somewhat trolly levels.

Pit Lems was indeed designed to be more puzzle-focused and strictly fair. The levels don't have an overarching theme, though. The first version had quite a lot of backroutes (see nin10doadict's Let's Play), and some of the open-ended levels (X-of-everything ones) have so many degrees of freedom that they're quite easy.

I still consider the puzzles in Pit Lems good enough to be worthy of conversion to New Formats eventually, and I'll add some select levels from Paralems that I consider worthwhile to it as well, creating something I'm going to call Pit Lems Remastered in the process.

Pit Lems does have a lot of Radiation and Slowfreeze levels, though, including some that were nominated for Level of the Year, so it's definitely still worth giving a shot in Old Formats as well. ;)

Paralems is really just more of a thing if you're interested in it for historic reasons. Since you said you already played GigaLems, which does contain some Troll elements as well, and you weren't as bothered by execution difficulty in Lemmicks as other players might have been, maybe you'll enjoy Paralems after all. But it would certainly be the last one of my packs I recommend to anyone - because it was the very first one I ever made.

Lemmings World Tour is my flagship pack, and most likely will remain that way even once I release Lemmings Open Air, Hall of Fame, and Drugs and Rock 'n Roll. Because those latter packs are going to be more difficult by nature.

Lemmings World Tour is, as far as I can tell, slightly easier than Lemmicks on average, while still having an overarching theme, fair puzzly-levels (unless they contain an octopus :P ), and offers lots of pretty landscape levels and custom self-recorded music to boot (you've already heard some of the tracks on the last levels of each rank while playing Lemmicks ;) ).
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels

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Re: [NeoLemmix 1.43] Lemmicks - Lemmings with gimmicks! ANOTHER UPDATE
« Reply #76 on: May 25, 2020, 09:07:39 pm »
Ah, ok. Would had been nice to confirm if the new rar attachment worked, but it's fine, since the zip ones work for you. They both contained the same files anyway, so you got to take your pick. It was a quick, free easy conversion from rar to zip with a site I found online, so it's all good. That is very interesting indeed. I've checked other level pack topics and didn't realize that the replays that were sent were all zip files. Icho didn't report any problems with the rar replay files I sent to him for his Lemmings United pack, so it's probably the software you're using to extract them, since the rar replay files work fine on my end. I use Winrar, which does both zip and rar files. I guess I'm used to rar since I've been using it for at least 15 years or so without any problems whatsoever.

Thanks for the background on your smaller packs. I'll definitely give them a go regardless of the generally hated elements reported by the other forum members. Regarding Lemmicks, I unfortunately didn't hear any LWT tracks on the final levels of the ranks, as the only music that played were the Amiga tracks. The only time I did hear custom music was in the Nostalgic rank, but there was only 1 or 2 levels that did that IIRC. I think I tried putting the tracks in the music folder but it didn't work for me. Perhaps you can tell me how to get it to work.

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Re: [NeoLemmix 1.43] Lemmicks - Lemmings with gimmicks! ANOTHER UPDATE
« Reply #77 on: May 25, 2020, 09:49:51 pm »
I take it that you did in fact download the music for Lemmicks, so: Did you check the music folder again if there's another folder inside it? Sometimes this happens when you extract from a zip or rar file, it creates another sub-folder in "music", rather than just placing all the tracks in there loosely. And then NeoLemmix 1.43 won't be able to find them, as far as I know.

The intended music for Lemmicks are basically all Lemmings 3D tracks, plus one of my Lemmings World Tour tracks on each of the final levels. Occasionally, there might be an original Lemmings track in there on some of the levels, like Pachelbel's canon, but those are rare.

Speaking of it, I actually do use win-rar for both rars and zips... it's just that with these specific files, rar for some reason complained they were damaged, whereas zip didn't. Don't know why.

And one more note on one of the levels from the Nostalgic rank, one which you rightfully criticised - I had intended to respond to that, and then somehow forgot...

My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels

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Re: [NeoLemmix 1.43] Lemmicks - Lemmings with gimmicks! ANOTHER UPDATE
« Reply #78 on: May 25, 2020, 11:17:59 pm »
Yup, no other folder inside the music folder. However, I solved it. I had to simply rename your Lemmicks music folder that I downloaded a few months ago to just "music." Whoever knew it was that simple? I think the strange thing was that I did that the last time but it didn't work for some reason. Or maybe the problem was for some packs for v10.13. Well, problem solved lol.

Hope you're enjoying the replays I sent you.

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Re: [NeoLemmix 1.43] Lemmicks - Lemmings with gimmicks! ANOTHER UPDATE
« Reply #79 on: May 26, 2020, 11:38:48 am »
Ah, maybe your NeoLemmix 1.43 folder didn't have a music folder to begin with yet? ;) If it only had the standard orig and ohno tracks, then those probably came as part of the game, so there was no dedicated folder called "music" yet.
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels

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Re: [NeoLemmix 1.43] Lemmicks - Lemmings with gimmicks! ANOTHER UPDATE
« Reply #80 on: May 26, 2020, 05:38:43 pm »
You are correct there. I just tested this by downloading another copy of v1.43 and when you exit after loading any pack compatible with this version, all there exists are Neolemmix.exe (the file you download from the Neolemmix website), along with a settings.ini and hotkey.ini files. Hence, it is necessary to create a music folder. I think in some packs the custom music worked fine, as the only way to play the packs on this version, as well as v10.13, is to load the .nxp file. The custom music should work automatically, but not always. The Gigalem packs come to mind here, where the custom music worked automatically. For packs that include custom music as a download, such as your pack Lemmicks, then as mentioned before it is necessary to create a music folder since there is none. Once I renamed your Lemmicks music folder to just "music," then it worked. Thanks for the help! :thumbsup: