some of my solutions feel possibly backroutish, but then everybody's levels these days are like that. Plus I think that's naturally going to happen with a 1 of each skill things like this. Or any challenge requiring you to follow a pre-set skill allocation. This was difficult for me for sure!

It's definitely a nice level to try out different things, while not having any easy solution that stands out. I'm just curious which design process you used when making this level (if it doesn't give anything away about the level); I like building a level around a certain trick, others prefer starting with some terrain without a specific solution in mind, then trying to find solutions themselves and the refine things. I suspect the latter have the tendency to be a bit more backroute-prone, as the designer essentially has to do the work of a solver as well. Is your level made like this? The design looks really clean!

I don't usually like bumpy terrain (especially if I have to solve a level), but bumpy terrain is nice to hide features of the level in, and I might have succeeded, considering no-one has solved version 2 of my level yet as far as I know. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" /> Among the styles with bumpy terrain, rock is definitely my favourite.

or you can do like I do and pull out a flimsy level without any real good solution in mind  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/XD.gif" alt=":XD:" title="XD" class="smiley" />

your level is tough Akseli, that's for sure. I keep coming close but no cigar...  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/huh.gif" alt="???" title="Huh?" class="smiley" /> as to geoo's level I don't even have a clue  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/scared.gif" alt=":scared:" title="Scared" class="smiley" />
what's with the title anyway? just random or is it a joke I don't get?
Clam's level is pretty ingenious on that line too  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />
and Steve's level now looks like a work of Picasso (not a bad thing) http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />
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are people getting points for every version of a level they solve? So the more versions the more points they'll get? (so it might be in my interest to not make revisions?  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/devil.gif" alt=":evil:" title="Evil" class="smiley" /> )

as expected I solved nothing except one level on my first try. (well I also solved IS's but most likely the back route)

[unnecessary rage]
playing got me really frustrated and I miss the directional select of Lemmini. and really wish bashers were always able to bash into a damned miner's tunnel!!  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/angry.gif" alt=">" title="Angry" class="smiley" /> http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/angry.gif" alt=">" title="Angry" class="smiley" /> ]

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Proxima already backrouted my level, I figured this was going to happen because I rushed the design. anyway here is a improved version. that didn't take long...

agree, I think Trapped Exit gets points for originality. even if it's fairly easy. plus I like lone lemming levels.

Plain 24: Sapphire Mine

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Lemmings: 20
Save: 10 (50%)
RR: 10
time: 3 minutes

skills: 10 each

good: crystal's my favorite set, so I automatically like this one. But the decoration is very well done. I like the placements of all of the little pieces. The title is nice. and This is a nice challenge for fun because it's a little tougher than the ordinary fun level; despite it's compact size. I like that the exit is slightly buried.

bad: nothing

Trapped Exit looks cool. I don't remember seeing diangle hazards that you need to build over. I'll play these levels when I'm done with Mobius 3. I'm trapped in "Three's Company".

http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" /> there's hints if you need them. (although my hints may confuse you more http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/undecided.gif" alt=":-\" title="Undecided" class="smiley" /> )
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I also encourage you to play DoveLems Luis, they really are great!

is it too late for a submission? I wouldn't worry about not being fair because there's not enough time to solve it-my levels are rarely that hard.

Competing with these levels is savagely hard. All of those look really well done guys.  Nobody was fooling around  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

I'll try solving levels but I doubt I'll be able to solve most of them (particularly geoo's or Clam's ) period, let alone on time...

wow, all of these levels look amazing!  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/shocked.gif" alt=":o" title="Shocked" class="smiley" /> http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />

is it a total coincidence that clam and geoo made a level with retirement in the title  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/huh.gif" alt="???" title="Huh?" class="smiley" />

don't feel discouraged Crane, your level looks great! It's generally more difficult to see backroutes in your own level because you have your own solution fore front in your mind.

interesting find  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />

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something I just realized about Lemmini; they got the buttons for the skill pallet from the WinLem's-made pictures seen in the level preview window.

Plain 21 – Flack and White

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Lemmings : 50
Save : 40 80%
Release Rate : 1
Time : 3 minutes
Skills : 0 climbers, 10 everything else.

Good : nice design and good building/planning exercise. A level fitting for the first rating. The decoration on the sides is nice. (i looked there for a hidden exit, just for ** and giggles)

okay: I don't get the title unless it's just a fun play on words,. I don't know what flack means and looking it up didn't help. or I'm just totally missing something. (not unlikely)

Bad : Compared to some of the previous levels this one seems too easy, but not terribly so. (not so sure, I'm not sure if this is the first level where you need to build and mine through the steps...) I personally don't care for the freezer blower above the ice the way it is.

I've began playing the PSP levels today. So far they look great! good job Luis.  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />
I plan on doing some challenges on these. should be fun  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />
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I made a folder of ini files for playing these in Lemmini. It doesn't include some of the early/tut. levels and I didn't number them. I figured if anybody really wants this done just ask and I can do it them. (I personally enjoy playing in Lemmini more)

EDIT: totally forgot to attach the folder  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/XD.gif" alt=":XD:" title="XD" class="smiley" />

good job on behind the net! it looks really nice  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />


I can give you some tips about Lemmix if you want Luis; (1 tip)..
-one way to deal with the exit triggers being out of place is to put "no overwrite" terrain underneath the exit. A small piece so that the lemmings step up and into the exit properly. This way you don't have to have the exit sunken into the ground. This doesn't matter however, if you make a level specifically for Lemmini.

Plain 17 – The Heat of Action

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Lemmings – 30
Save: 80%
RR: 20
Time: 2 minutes

skills: 30 climbers, 10 builders, 10 miners, 10 diggers

Good: layout and decoration is very neat and interesting. I personally really like levels which involve climbing and multitasking like these. (Basically; a level that deviates from the standard send 1 worker out ploy). There are numerous ways to solve it with leeway, but some work much better than others. I think the time limit does good to steer you toward some solutions more than others. I also like hell levels with words in them. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

Bad: I think it's a little too hard for its position. Possibly better suited for the next rating. I spent a while on it before realizing a much simpler solution which saves time and 100%!

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...ntioned about the black background, so some might have already guessed that the screenshots have been taken from Lemmix. I just checked this out why the liquid seems a bit different, because I didn't know it at first, but yes, in Lemmix it looks a bit different (the level image) than in authentic gameplay in Lemmini (like the background colour issue, too). But I have no idea why.

this could be because in Lemmix all objects are automatically aligned to an invisible grid. I don't think this happens in Lemmini at all. So Dodo could have saved the level in a pre-moved state, but if you'd open that level up again in Lemmix it will be moved on its own. Sometimes things even disappear completely.

I recognize Pikachu on Glad0s' shoulder there Pieuw  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" class="smiley" />

http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=526.msg10844#msg10844">Quote from: LemSteven on 2011-06-26 01:19:28

Oh no! More Lemmings
Wicked 7: 76/80

How on earth can you turn the right hatch lemmings to left without blocker?
So isn't it possible to save only 75/80? Or is there some megatrick involved?
Could someone explain the solution to me, I tried hard for half an hour and didn't manage to come up with a way...

I have a possible theory... block the lemming in on the top and somehow use the blocker to create a hole. I really have no idea this would be nice to have an explanation. I assure you it is most-likely possible. Some of the players here have god-like powers...  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/winktounge.gif" alt=";P" title="Wink-Tongue" class="smiley" />

thanks for the link  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" /> I got mixed up about that... somebody  I knew from the South got those.

but I heard of this candy from England that they don't have in America and I can't remember the name... Of course; I guess they're lots of candies they don't have here  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/XD.gif" alt=":XD:" title="XD" class="smiley" />

I so agree with you, and we are going to see this especially in the later ratings. And For the Honour is also these tutorial levels I admire, I find that bombers are used here much more elegantly than just for getting through walls.

I think the first bomber level is probably the best intro for bombers ever. As it involves timing but not precise, better than the original games' level. well done. I'm curious if Dodochocalo is actually an artist or in that field. It certainly shows if he is.

Plain 12 - Don't Let Them Leave the Way

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Lemmings: 20
Save: 50%
RR: 1
Time: 5 minutes

[oops, forgot the skills]: 10 of everything

Good: Layout is interesting and complicated, leaving a variety of solutions but none of them are too easy. The Design is good. It's fairly easy for beginners to get 100% (I think... difficult to judge since I'm not a beginner...) Also, the three entrances are a nice touch.

Bad: the only thing that looks a little bit bad is the double acid pool, but this is unavoidable if you want to make "thicker" acid. Some people don't mind it.


note: this level looks different in the picture than my own...[the acid pool looks a little different in the picture] (maybe this was already talked about)

very nice once again. you've got some talent  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />


What is a "Now-or-Later"?
My friend that went to England once said he had candy called now-or-laters. I don't remember what they were though...

don't forget the broken version of We all fall down (on Windows Lemmings 95)  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" class="smiley" />

in it, the splat height is incorrect so they literally just all fall down and go merrily on to the exit. This is a "true" do nothing because you don't even need to press any buttons at all.  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

(...for fun and tricky at least, I'd image in Taxing you'd run out of time if you don't change the RR)

EDIT: oops, I didn't realize this was just about the 'Apple levels' so you already knew that..  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/embarrassed.gif" alt=":-[" title="Embarrassed" class="smiley" />

http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/shocked.gif" alt=":o" title="Shocked" class="smiley" /> I didn't expect this much activity. I couldn't figure out how to get the picture on the post so It's attached. Photobucket's such a pain in the neck because I rarely use it. What do you guys use to get the picture in the post?

Plain 6 - The Plant Lemmings

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Lemmings: 20
Save: 20%
RR: 10
Time: 5 minutes

skills: 10 builders.

Good: a good builder exercise. A Little more interesting than the original game's builder level. Plus it's easier to get out if you make a mistake. The decoration is awesome, with an appropriate title. It makes good use of the brick tileset.

Bad: nothing.
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can someone give me the password to Coward 18, The Broken Tower? I'd like to play using the ini file way but up to now I haven't so I can't get there quickly.