QuoteIf the intention is to allow users access to the physics for modding, where do we stop? If we'd rather not allow access for the sake of simplicity, then the gfx/mask files shouldn't exist in the directory.

I agree there. Having fully customisable physics would result in confusion.

So, gfx/mask files shouldn't exist in the directory and should go in the exe.

QuoteIcho's position is interesting. What do you think about externalizing even more physics? E.g., create a physics configuration text file. Let people set custom splat height in it. Warn nonintrusively about custom physics when it contains anything else than 63 safe, 64 dead.

Yeah you are right, I think at that point it would create more confusing stuff than do any good. I would be against that.
I rather would agree to put the masks in the exe instead of externalizing even more physics.

I just like really like having files visible instead of big data-blobs hiding them from me. Flashbacks to old games where I wanted to listen to the soundtrack only to see that all tracks where hidden in data-blobs. Sad times! 

I do not have a strong opinion about it, when you wanna hide them for CE, do it. I just remembered why we actually went away from the big exe blob and I feel like that could be a frist step back to it.

Just be careful!

Looked inside the folder and I can maybe see somebody wanting to swap the highliter or countdown.

But yeah the other stuff would break physics and I understand the reasoning behind this, but all the files are there and visible so everything could easily be swapped out or modified if desired.

But what if somebody accidentally deletes/edits them? Well, what if somedody deletes/edits files in system32? Here just re-download the NL files and fixed.

I also really like to see where the actual files are instead of just big data blops, but that's preference.

This would seem like going a step backwards to me.

Finals are up in this topic! 

Reminder to vote. 

I've set up the tiebreker round in the rule 2 and 3 voting topic. 

I will be on a buisness trip until thursday evening, so it could be that the new rounds only starts on friday.

I have confirmation that the results do not show up after a vote has been cast .... except in my case. 

As the poll's creator it seems like the current result is displayed for me after I vote. 

I have the ability to view the results before my vote anyway with a button but only after I press it and I can simply not do that. I would prefer this would not force it on me after I vote.

Planned:

Rule 1 -- 3 entries (~33% survival rate)
Rule 2 -- 4 entries (~25% survival rate)
Rule 3 -- 3 entries (~33% survival rate)

Rule 1

Armani's "Underroot" (5 votes)
IchoTolot's "No Way In Hell!" (1 vote)
kaywhyn's "It's Crazy Sports Day!" (6 votes)

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Rule 2

Armani's "Rusty Ruin Zone" (1 vote)
Crane's "Redneck Redemption" (6 votes)
IchoTolot's "Social Distancing" (1 vote)
kaywhyn's "Help Me, Help Dune" (6 votes)

Tiebreaker

Crane's "Redneck Redemption" (2 votes)
kaywhyn's "Help Me, Help Dune" (5 votes)
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Rule 3

Armani's "Benzene" (2 votes)
IchoTolot's "Lem In The Box" (5 votes)
kaywhyn's "We Got Mad Lemmings 3 Lab Skills!" (5 votes)

Tiebreaker

IchoTolot's "Lem In The Box" (2 votes)
kaywhyn's "We Got Mad Lemmings 3 Lab Skills!" (5 votes)
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Finals

kaywhyn's "It's Crazy Sports Day!"
kaywhyn's "Help Me, Help Dune"
kaywhyn's "We Got Mad Lemmings 3 Lab Skills!"

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Oh, I just saw this is Lemmini and not NeoLemmix. 

I do not remember if the up arrow walker select works in Lemmini - it's been a long time since I played on that engine. 

In order to help you in the future with these kind of selections:

There is a hotkey that forces the game to select a walker. It should be the "up" arrow by default.

This can even be combined with the "right" or "left" arrow key in order to select a walker facing right or left.

The force walker select is also very helpful for selecting non-digger lemmings in a digger pit. 

The solutions to my levels are all intended! 

Most of the extra pick ups on my R3 serve the purpose that you are able to solve the level for both exits, but yeah a few of those are just not viable to get.

They both seem fine to me now. 

ohno_rock vine will be a tricky case though.

Here are my solutions for V6. 

I don't see any major backroutes on first sight.