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BTW. New pack is good progress rightnow.  I am did over 100 levels rightnow. I think this pack will contains at least over 120 unique levels.

At this point this pack is much harder than my first one. Its mostly, because i am better with neolemmix mechanism and learn use tools better and also this pack will includes all new skills and many other new stuffs, buttons, splitters, zombies and etc...... My first pack contains only orginal lemmings levels and skills.

Spending good 6-12 hours per days building that pack. (started make few demo levels in year 2021)

New Pack will run through next difficulty 30 levels per each one:
1: Simple Cakewalk (Done 30 levels)
2: Easy Road Trip (Done 30 levels
3: Tricky Boardwalk (Done 30 Levels
4: Suffering Hellroad (Done 15 levels)
5: Millenium Mayhem (Im not are make any levels in this difficulty, so its probably not contains all 30 levels) But this will be definitely one super hard mode and contains at least some levels. Hope i can learn game even better and make even more harder levels.

Two first difficulty is mostly practice. First one learn you use new skills. 2nd one learns you make tricks with new skills and when you reach 3rd difficulty, your game will goes really hard one and there is not easy way out.

However im not never are find any drive with neutral lemmings? Those are like zombies but no kill you. So that only one i never used my pack. Zombies is available by many later levels.

« Last Edit: April 06, 2022, 08:30:50 PM by MASTER-88 »
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Okay new lemmings pack is done. I decide make only 120 levels as well like my first pack. I still keep my door open and might make few special levels if i got fresh ideas.

So its 4 difficult settings. 30 level per each difficult.
This pack will be a lot harder overall than my first one. Also less remake levels and more unique levels.

Next i´ll play it through and check out things (traps, metals, stuffs, etc.....) and later post it. I´ll create new topic when i´ll post my pack.

For sure its will be some serious fun try playthrough my harder levels. Last 30 levels are really hard ones. You really have to handled all your new skills. I liked my last level. Its might be some serious fun if you loved hard lemmings levels.:devil:

I´ll Be back later and with new topic.:P
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where can I find links to both of your level packs?
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I fixed his 1st pack to play in the latest neolemmix player as the pack needed to be packed correctly.

just install it to the levels folder

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Re: New Neolemmix pack is Ready 120 orginal lemmings levels (UPDATE 20.12.21)
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2022, 01:54:53 PM »
Hello Master88,

I have solved the first two ranks of the pack. My replays are attached. Also, I have an LP of the pack: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJulieZsJxzkAFxdZUKvh8DN. Enjoy! :P

General Feedback

Master88 Custom Neolevels is a custom pack by Master88 and the user's first one. It has 4 ranks of 30 levels each, similar to L1's structure. As already mentioned earlier in the thread, some of the rank names are the exact same as that of Pit Lems, a level pack by Strato Incendus. At least with what I've seen up through near the end of the third rank, this pack uses only the classic 8 skills and hence is pretty much the most recent pack to use those skills.

Definitely the one thing I have pointed out repeatedly in my LP is there are way too many repeats! Now, I don't have anything against repeats myself, as I certainly consider those worthwhile if the solution in the repeat is different from the original. Otherwise, if the solution on the original is possible on the repeat, I don't consider it a worthwhile inclusion in the pack. Indeed, there have been plenty such repeats where I can use the exact same solution on both the original and some of the later appearances of the same level. Even more, it seems that every level appears at least 3 or more times! The repeats even happen as early as the first rank. IMO it would had been far better if the repeats were way more spaced out from their original level's appearance rather than just being about after every level or so.

LOL Rank Feedback

Can be considered the Fun rank equivalent of L1, these levels are easy in general, with many of the levels providing a lot of skills such that you're pretty much free to carve any solution you want. The pack starts off very similar to L1, except LOL 1 is a floater tutorial rather than a digger tutorial, but LOL 1 and Fun 1 are similar in that they both give 10 lemmings but you only need to save 1. After that, there's a pretty good assortment of diversity and variety in the skillsets and levels. The LOL rank would probably even be considered easier than the Fun rank overall in many ways, although there's still a few odd levels that can probably be considered a bit difficult for the rank, especially for less experienced players. The ones that come to my mind here are LOL 15 - Twin in Dark Palace and its repeats LOL 22 - Twins back in Dark Palace and LOL 30 - Return back to Dark Palace, LOL 25 - The Cage 2, LOL 26 - Web road, and LOL 29 - All is compression.

My favorites of the rank: LOL 17 - Ironplate part two and LOL 25.


YOLO Rank Feedback

Levels overall are slightly harder in this rank, and I would even say that some go a bit beyond Tricky difficulty and are Taxing difficulty here, especially these in the second half! However, just like the previous rank, so many repeats here which start right away at YOLO 1! Again, repeats aren't bad IMO, they're just really overdone here and are way too close to one another and not spaced out enough from their original appearances.

Levels that I consider hard for casual players: YOLO 2 - Solitary cell lemmings, YOLO 3 - Dinosaurus cementry, YOLO 4 - 4th Saga YOLO, YOLO 7 - All is compression part two, YOLO 8 - Twins last visit in Dark Palace (I consider this the hardest of the rank, maybe it's even early Taxing difficulty), YOLO 10 - Star road, YOLO 15 - The Cage 3 (can probably even be considered Taxing difficulty here), YOLO 18 - Ironplate part 3 (two sets of OWAs pointing in different directions can be confusing to new players, along with a very restricted skillset),  YOLO 19 - Teleporting from home, YOLO 20 - 6 lemming come to Dark palace, YOLO 23 - Three lemming acrobating show, YOLO 24 - Lets turn around, YOLO 26 - Safety drop part two (new players might especially be confused about how they can save enough due to the added trap that wasn't there in previous versions of the level), YOLO 27 - Quick visit in Dark palace (just like YOLO 8, except only 1 lemming and a very tight time limit of 22 seconds), and YOLO 29 - Just a minute falling.

My favorites of the rank: YOLO 14 - Hello John We got New Lemming (just remove the assign 40 floaters akin to Bitter Lemming from L1 part by making the hatches preassigned floater ones instead and this is a great level!), YOLO 16 - You need a cunning plan (ironically the solution reminds me more of "Postcard from Lemmingland" :laugh:), YOLO 18, YOLO 24 (again without the several repeated floater assignments and it's a great level), and YOLO 27.


Will continue with more of the pack when I'm able to! Currently near the end of the OMG rank, and it's very similar to the YOLO rank in that there was no unique level until after the first 11 levels, but I'm finding these repeats are at least way more interesting than the earlier appearances of those levels in the pack! :thumbsup: Also, near the end of the rank it seems to all be unique levels and so at least the pack is going in a more interesting direction. Since the pack now seems very interesting and quite promising, I'm looking forward to the rest of the OMG rank and the final rank after that! ;)     
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Re: New Neolemmix pack is Ready 120 orginal lemmings levels (UPDATE 20.12.21)
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2022, 05:02:57 AM »
Completed LOL and YOLO so far, here are my replays. Some feedback points:

:lemming: These are great fun, easy levels perfect for casual playing. They suit my attack-the-level playing style perfectly, so I enjoyed these :thumbsup:

:lemming: A good amount of variation in the different types of levels (any way you like, limited skillset, only one skill type, different RRs, varied lem counts, etc.)

:lemming: Level design is generally in keeping with L1-style levels, especially in the skillsets and the types of solutions required to solve the levels, providing a decent amount of nostalgia factor for those who value it.

:lemming: Minimalistic level layouts which are easy on the eyes and clearly laid out.

This is a great first offering and I look forward to getting into the rest of the pack at some point. I was compelled enough to play through the whole of the first 60 levels in one sitting, they're very enjoyable and I had fun finding the most optimal solutions for the levels. Good work! :thumbsup:
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Re: New Neolemmix pack is Ready 120 orginal lemmings levels (UPDATE 20.12.21)
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2022, 08:40:13 AM »
OMG rank solved, and so I'm back with more replays and feedback ;)

OMG Rank Feedback

Even though a lot of the levels are repeats and we don't encounter the first unique level of the rank until level 12, I must say this time the repeats are way more interesting and really great challenges! :thumbsup: Then I think starting at level 21, the rest of the rank are unique levels until the rank finisher, which is a repeat. Even the unique levels themselves are interesting and challenging, and so regardless of whether it's a repeat or unique the levels definitely belong in this difficulty. However, just like the previous rank, some of these could even fit the Mayhem difficulty. So, things are definitely getting quite difficult starting in this rank!

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I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the WTF rank now, as the OMG rank has been the most interesting despite all the repeats! :thumbsup: At least this time they were challenging in some way and have far more interesting solutions very different from the original and maybe the first repeat or so. Once again, I'm continuing to enjoy the pack a lot, even more after the OMG rank.

@WillLem - Nice, seems coincidental that we started playing the pack around the same time. Maybe my LP got you to play the pack? :laugh: Just one thing I will add to your post is that this is a classic 8 skills pack, which is sure to be to pretty much everyone's liking here, particularly those who are Superlemmini fans. At least that has been true for the 95 levels of the pack I have played, and so I'm sure this won't be changing with any of the remaining levels not sticking to the classic 8 skills. There are levels that use NL objects though, in particular there are a few levels that use teleporters.

Good luck with the rest of the pack. You're more than welcome to reference my replays/LP for hints if you need any on levels you might get stuck on, but I doubt that won't be necessary, as I have the utmost confidence that you can handle these levels just fine, given that you managed the first two ranks without problems! :)
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Re: New Neolemmix pack is Ready 120 orginal lemmings levels (UPDATE 20.12.21)
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2022, 03:42:15 AM »
Even though a lot of the levels are repeats and we don't encounter the first unique level of the rank until level 12, I must say this time the repeats are way more interesting and really great challenges! :thumbsup:

Yeah, the pack does have a lot of repeat levels. In fairness though, I think in most cases talismans wouldn't be suitable, since there are significant variations in things like skillset and lem counts between most of the repeats, from what I've seen. Some of them could be given talismans though, for sure.

Ultimately, though, I'm guessing Master88 likes the idea of making an L1-style pack with repeats, and it certainly delivers as far as that's concerned! :lemcat:

@WillLem - Nice, seems coincidental that we started playing the pack around the same time. Maybe my LP got you to play the pack? :laugh:

I didn't realise you'd done an LP for this, tbh! I'll give it a look after I've had a go myself, since this pack seems within my difficulty level so far.

Good luck with the rest of the pack. You're more than welcome to reference my replays/LP for hints if you need any on levels you might get stuck on, but I doubt that won't be necessary, as I have the utmost confidence that you can handle these levels just fine, given that you managed the first two ranks without problems! :)

Thanks for this, I'll keep going with it and try not to use hints as much as possible ;P

I'm usually not one to be too proud to seek help where needed, but I'm actually still stuck on Lemmings Plus III because I really want to be able to do the whole of that without hints. There are a few levels which have just stopped my progress. I'll come back to them at some point.

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Re: New Neolemmix pack is Ready 120 orginal lemmings levels (UPDATE 20.12.21)
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2022, 10:10:22 AM »
WTF rank completed and hence I have solved all of the pack. My entire replay collection is attached.

WTF Rand Feedback

Being the final rank of the pack, the hardest levels that Master88 made are supposedly all here. Just like all the previous ranks, there are a lot of repeats here and only a small handful of unique levels. So, I think the OMG rank actually has the highest amount of unique levels and IMO the best rank of the pack, though there were still some true gems in the WTF rank too. Some weren't to my liking because some being too fiddly or way too much rapid fire skill assignments in a very short amount of time that the level practically has to be done while paused, which IMO disrupts the natural flow of gameplay. Not to mention that some of the ideas have been very overdone to death by this point in my Lemmings solving career, such as basher/digger and basher staircases, though the level which you do the latter requires it so many times that honestly it wasn't that much fun for me to play, though there was the satisfaction of being very quick with it to beat the very tight time limit.

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Now that I've gotten through the entire pack, my assessment of the classified difficulty of Easy-Hard still stands. Some levels are much harder than the surrounding ones in each of the ranks, but for the most part the difficulty averages out to be Hard on the high end. In any case, I enjoyed the pack, especially once I got into the OMG rank. Before that point, the pack wasn't much trouble but it's still no pushover. Thank you for this pack that uses only the classic 8 skills, and I will look forward to trying your other two level packs at some point :thumbsup: Hope you're enjoying my LP as well! ;)
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I see this topic until now. Im just forget check out 2 years old topics, my fault, too much progress around. But yeah kaywhyn (im not will write his name wrong in future, that was just my bad mistake) told me about this.

Thanks played my levels and hope you are enjoy.

Yeah this my first pack was pretty classic. Its used only orginal lemmings skills and that was also my first custom pack i ever maded. So i did a lot tech errors in levels. I just become better lemmings builders my 2nd and 3rd packs. How ever this my 1st pack includes some my best boards ever. I remastered some my 3rd pack.

Hope you will enjoy to play my progress.

kaywhyn told me about my system name levels are different. I personally not are got negative crtici about this before. Its seems its really piss of kaywhyn. He did a lot own time job fixed levels match his style. IMO my system list levels are even easier to read than others. I am personally got that more useful. How ever its different than most othres ones here.

But im not want make peoples mad about this. I´ll fix things, if this really piss of most of players. I´ll just personally find this even easier than normal system, because used numerous. Just can very quickly check out replay. Sometimes i have to spend times when i play other gamers pack and i´ll forget level name, but not level number. I think my system list levels are faster and better IMO.

How ever we are here all different persons. We have different styles make things and etc..... Im not want caused high pressures anyone or painful progress. I personally like my style organize levels.

How ever i am planned check out my all packs in future and fix grapchi errors and etc... little things. So just have to ask your guys. Is this my style list levels just that horrible like kaywhyn told me??? Or is he/she only person who got pissed off this?
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How ever i am planned check out my all packs in future and fix grapchi errors and etc... little things. So just have to ask your guys. Is this my style list levels just that horrible like kaywhyn told me??? Or is he/she only person who got pissed off this?

Ok, sadly you completely misunderstood me. I never said that about your naming scheme with your levels at all. The way you named your .nxlv files is fine. As a matter of fact, some others have named their files this way, and as you have accurately stated the advantage here is that you can quickly see at a glance what position a particular level is in. I used this naming scheme myself when I did some level pack conversions for SuperLemmini. So, no, this is not the problem I have.

Rather, the issue for me is how the game presents your pack. When I'm LPing other people's level packs, keep in mind it's your level pack I'm showing off. I want to show off his/her pack in the best way possible. The way you have it, the preview screen before you click to enter the level is a bit too cluttered IMO, even though it's only a few extra words before both the level title (top line) and the rank name (line below it). The way I have it, it takes those words out so that, eg, the game just shows LOL 1 in the second line, while the top line shows Safety Drop, which IMO looks better. In addition, I can tell at a glance that Safety Drop is the first level of the LOL rank, so therefore having Level 01 before Safety Drop in the title in the game is redundant.

However, what I didn't know at the time is that what really matters is what's in Notepad, because that determines how the rank name and level title is displayed in the game. So really, to get only the level title, you just need to open each level in Notepad and take out "level" and the number before each title and then save it. You can leave the .nxlv files themselves the way you named them. It'll still take a lot of time, but even this drastically cuts down the time to do it considerably. Then you just need to write up the levels.nxmi file properly so that it shows the condensed top two lines in the game.

As for this level pack, I definitely enjoyed the final two ranks. The main problem I had was how there were so many repeats of the same level throughout the pack, though that definitely got way less and better as you got farther in the pack. By this, I mean how there were plenty with 3 or even 4 versions of the same level. Now, I understand this might be your way of making levels, but at least for me, a lot of the repeats here were unnecessary, especially as I recall a lot of them I could use the same solution to a later repeat as I did with an earlier version of the level. They also start long before you reach the end of the first rank. At the same time, this is your first level pack and as you said you were just learning at the time. So, maybe you avoided doing the same with your future packs with so many repeats.

If there aren't any or many repeats in your later packs, then I will definitely look forward to those. It'll be a while before I even get to them, but eventually at some point I will play them.   
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As for this level pack, I definitely enjoyed the final two ranks. The main problem I had was how there were so many repeats of the same level throughout the pack, though that definitely got way less and better as you got farther in the pack. By this, I mean how there were plenty with 3 or even 4 versions of the same level.

Yes i did this my first and thats definitely not was my best idea. I´ll still used 2 levels strategy in same boards in future. That my intention. Its make peoples familiar easier version level. For Example Cranium pack i played. There is some very unknow and insane hard levels in Chaos.  For example i have to test those leves my neolemmix editor & used test lemmings and look how levels actual works. So that reason i´ll usualluy make 2 same type level (1st is much easier). My First pack was quite crap. Its just contains 4 same type levels. Its way too much. That was my first pack and yeah its not my best. How ever i´ll still keep my 2 levels strategy in future. I´ll also plan levels avarage skills players. I´personally like Plus 1 pack (Namida) Its contains easy versions and goes harder.

Making some very hard levels plans i´ll forget to sleep. Some hardest levels take 8-12 hours to build and plan. Compared that entire pack its take 100 hours. Thats take a lot time.

How ever Cranium Pack is one best entire site IMO. But no remake levels make it really hard got meet some new levels. I´ll agree 4 remakses is too much. So that my amateur work. Its just my first pack and its not greates. I´ll still keep rules make 2 same boards. Because fisrt one (easier) will you will help you in future.
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All about my Retro pack. Those boards are familiar. Im not recommend that your first pack. Because its quite hard. Some levels at end are very hard even with lemmings experts.

https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0
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Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
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Lemmings World 150 Levels
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My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
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Ok, I'm glad that we were able to sort things out :thumbsup: I forgive you, but really just a reminder to be careful how you write your posts, because if you're not careful you can unintentionally offend someone with it. For example, I know your post when you asked for your channel to be added to the OP in the pause free challenge came off as rude to both Proxima and WillLem.

Also regarding Cranium, I was unaware that Crane took down the pack due to a negative word you used, since I was in a gaming session at the time. Let me tell you, I and several others really had to convince Crane to have his pack restored, but it was also very stressful dealing with his emotional being. I did defend you by telling Crane to keep in mind that MASTER-88 doesn't know you (Crane) as well as some of us do and that something like that would upset him, but now that I'm seeing your post in that level pack topic yes I do agree that it was a bit mean of you to say that about Crane, even though we know you meant well since you were employing black comedy, aka, dark humor. I myself am a dark humor kind of person like you, but I always take care with what I write. Luckily, the pack is back, but yea, I and some others really needed to put some sense into Crane to get it restored.

Again, as a reminder I don't mind the swearing, as long as it isn't directed at me. It just came off as rude to me because it felt like you directed the profanity at me even though you were criticizing what appeared to you as a messier way of organizing a pack. It was really just me giving you an example of how to write a levels.nxmi file.

In any case, you don't have to do it right away with your second and third level packs, since I did say it'll be a while before I even get around to playing them. Remember, to me presentation is important, and my intention is that whenever I play someone's pack on video I like to present them in the best way possible by showing them off in a way that looks great.

Yes i did this my first and thats definitely not was my best idea. My First pack was quite crap. Its just contains 4 same type levels. Its way too much. That was my first pack and yeah its not my best.

Ok, good to know we're in agreement here about the repeats were completely overdone to death where there are 4 or 5 versions of the same level. However, I disagree about your first level pack being crap. I know it's your personal opinion about your own pack, but honestly your first level pack isn't all bad. It did at least get a lot better in the final two ranks, because those were done really well IMO :thumbsup: Not only were repeats almost done away with completely, they at least had solutions where you couldn't use them in the original version, and this is what makes a repeat worth it IMO. The unique levels themselves in the final two ranks were great for the most part as well ;)

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How ever i´ll still keep my 2 levels strategy in future.

Ok, I have something to look forward to even more then :thumbsup: I would had preferred if every level was original, but this is fine too if they weren't done to the extent of your first pack. L1 did this with repeats, so it's fine if you use this method for your packs. Also if the pack is huge, it can be very hard to come up with completely unique levels for the entire thing, so some designers use repeats to fill in slots, especially if it is a really interesting solution they found that can't be used on the original version.
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No problems. Also Crane is my friend and awesome guy. That he got his pack down to while was mostly i got find way too much backroutes and he not liked it. I also ask sorry about Crane and we discuss a lot PM and ask him return his pack. Yes i was little bit rude about Crane. That was just my Sarcasm humor. And yes im ask that sorry and we are very okay now. :thumbsup: That definitely not my intention make offense anyone.

Im not want bad feelings anyone here. But my bad english skills make me sometimes hear more rude than i intended. My humor is also very saracasm. Yes i´ll know all peoples not like my humor and all peoples not understand sarcasm.

We persons in lemmings forum are differents. We make levels and most very talented players are very painstaking. We will need that skills make lemmings. We have to look everythings. We don´t want pass too much backroutes, so we have to be nitpicking and careful. I am also nitpicking myself. But just only making levels. I´ll still usually used humors when i dying something. So i am quite relax man myself.

kaywhyn you are right all about this. I have to be more friendly and make some less sarcams in future. My intention is not offense peoples. I´ll like you guys. Sorry about bad humors or things i hear way too rude or somethings. How ever english is not my native language and sometimes my style talk about is pretty rude. its  just because english ei not my native. If we speak my own laguage, i´ll definitely sounds less rude.

Hey no trouble. Just keep fun. And thanks your information kaywhyn

Im not want make bad feelings anyone. Hope you enjoy to play and plan. :thumbsup:
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Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
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Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
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Lemmings World 150 Levels
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