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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2020, 04:18:04 am »
My best so far on Medi 25 is 14 climbers + 14 diggers, which does improve diggers at least.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2020, 10:24:19 pm »
Danger 1, I've got 10 climbers, 1 floater, 1 blocker, 3 builders.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2020, 01:24:49 am »
Back over to Redux, here's me and Proxima's results up to Zany 16:

Zany 1 "The Bridge Is Breaking Down" - 1 climber, 1 builder, 2 bashers, 1 miner
Zany 2 "Temporary Peace" - 8 builders, 1 basher (no-miner replay attached)
Zany 3 "Last One Out Is A Rotten Egg" - 3 builders (Proxima's result re: diggers / miners)
Zany 4 "Lemmtris" - None (Proxima has a replay for no climbers + no miners; talisman solution achieves no bashers; the rest is easy)
Zany 5 "Watch Out, There's Traps About" - 1 builder
Zany 6 "Compression Method 1" - 1 basher (no-blocker replay attached)
Zany 7 "No time for a detour" - None (Proxima's result)
Zany 8 "Lemmy in the cold, cold ground" - 2 builders (no-basher and no-miner replays attached; 2 builders is fairly easy)
Zany 9 "No Justice For The Hero" - 1 builder, 1 miner, 1 digger
Zany 10 "Flow Control" - 1 builder
Zany 11 "Lemming Tomato Ketchup Facility" - 1 climber, 2 bombers (2-bomber replay attached)
Zany 12 "Twins" - 4 builders (Proxima's result)
Zany 13 "Don't leave any Lemmings" - 3 builders, 1 bomber (max-saved uses 1 bomber, no-blockers is trivial, 3-builder replay attached)
Zany 14 "Pitfall" - 4 builders, 1 basher, 1 digger (4-builder replay attached)
Zany 15 "With a little help from my Lem" - 2 climbers, 3 bashers, 2 diggers
Zany 16 "What An AWESOME Level" - None (no-builder replay attached)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2020, 01:35:28 am »
My interesting replays from tonight's session:

* Zany 3 no diggers
* Zany 4 no climbers or miners
* Zany 7 no digger (no miner is easy, and the level can be solved with these two skills alone)
* Zany 8 no basher (namida and I solved this simultaneously, so we both have a replay)
* Zany 12, 4 builders
* Zany 17, no miner

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2020, 03:38:16 am »
More replays! This batch includes Zany 25 (Have a nice day), which is a talisman, but namida mentioned he was struggling on this one so I thought I should include it.

* Zany 18 (KEEP ON TRUCKING) 2 builders, and no blockers
* Zany 21 (Mutiny on the Bounty) no climber
* Zany 22 (SNOW JOKE) 3 builders (neither namida nor I managed to match Clam's 2-builder result from DOS ONML)
* Zany 25 (Have a nice day) 5 builders
* Zany 26 (Across the Gap) no digger

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2020, 04:52:53 am »
Here's my interesting replays.

- Zany 18 "Keep On Trucking", 1 Basher
- Zany 21 "Mutiny on the Bounty", 6 Builders
- Zany 22 "Snow Joke", No Blockers
- Zany 22 "Snow Joke", No Climbers + 1 Basher
- Zany 25 "Have a nice day!", Builders Only
- Zany 26 "Across the Gap", 1 Basher
- Zany 28 "Worra load of old blocks!", No Digger
- Zany 30 "Got Anything Lemmingy?", 2 Builders
- Zany 30 "Got Anything Lemmingy?", No Digger
- Zany 31 "Rocky Road", 2 Builders
- Zany 31 "Rocky Road", No Bashers
- Zany 31 "Rocky Road", No Miners
- Zany 31 "Rocky Road", No Diggers

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2020, 05:02:04 am »
We went through the rest of Zany to set preliminary results, but there were several levels for which we couldn't match the DOS result, yet couldn't find a conclusive reason why it couldn't be matched. Definitely worth having another look at these at some point.

17 "Lemming Lament" - 1 climber, 3 bombers, 4 builders
18 "KEEP ON TRUCKING" - 2 builders, 1 basher (possible with no basher in DOS; we haven't looked at the replay yet)
19 "Postcard from Lemmingland" - 1 climber, 1 builder
20 "Dolly Dimple" - 3 builders, 1 digger
21 " Mutiny on the Bounty" - 6 builders
22 "SNOW JOKE" - 3 builders, 1 basher (possible with 2 builders in DOS; Clam claimed this but never posted a replay)
23 "ONWARD AND UPWARD" - 2 climbers, 2 bombers, 2 builders, 1 basher, 1 miner
24 "I have a cunning plan" - None
25 "Have a nice day!" - 5 builders
26 "Across the Gap" - 1 builder, 1 basher (possible with no basher in DOS; Clam claimed this but never posted a replay)
27 "Jump down!" - 5 builders, 1 basher, 1 miner
28 "Worra load of old blocks!" - 3 builders (possible with 2 in DOS; we haven't looked at the replay yet)
29 "Four Play" - 1 builder, 1 basher, 3 miners, 3 diggers
30 "Got anything... Lemmingy???" - 2 builders
31 "ROCKY ROAD" - 2 builders
32 "The North Poles" - 2 climbers, 9 builders, 3 diggers. Minim claimed that 1 climber is possible in DOS, but with no replay; Clam disputed this and it was never resolved. I have edited the DOS topic to say 2 climbers, unless proof is provided.

Replays attached for 28 no climber and 30 no digger (quite different from namida's solution).
« Last Edit: February 13, 2020, 05:46:28 am by Proxima »

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2020, 09:02:21 am »
Separately, I have a 1-builder solution that will work on all five levels, but I didn't save a replay of it.

Doesn't NeoLemmix now automatically saves any solving replays under an "Auto" subfolder or similar?  At least some of the more recent versions do.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2020, 03:19:12 pm »
It does, but on that occasion I didn't actually exit play after solving, which would have saved a replay. I later went back to create a No Salvation V 1-builder replay, and it's attached here.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2020, 07:19:53 pm »
Ah I see.  Would it have helped if NeoLemmix had autosaved the replay without requiring exit play (ie. saving at the moment the save requirement has been satisfied)?  Or did you rewind/restart the replay before that point anyway, so that there was never an opportunity for NeoLemmix to possibly know there's something worth autosaving?

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2020, 08:08:54 pm »
It was deliberate. No Salvation I has 50 lemmings and each successive iteration has 10 fewer, so I wanted to save a solving replay on No Salvation V so as to ensure it would work on all five levels. A replay saved on No Salvation I would have broken on the later levels if any of the lemmings I'd assigned skills to happened to be the 11th lemming or later.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2020, 01:48:02 am »
Medi 20 "The Diving Board" improved from 2 floaters to 1 floater. Replay attached.
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The Krow Files (File A v1.2 released 21-Feb-2020)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2020, 05:04:01 am »
Results from the latest session:

Danger 2 - 1 floater, 14 builders (replay for 14-builders attached)
Danger 3 - 2 climbers, 1 bomber, 1 basher (replay for 2-climbers attached)
Danger 4 - 6 builders, 1 basher (separate replays for both of these attached)
Danger 5 - 1 builder, 1 miner (replays attached for no-blocker and 1-builder)
Danger 6 - 1 climber, 1 floater, 1 builder
Danger 7 - 1 miner (replay attached for 1-miner)
Danger 8 - 1 climber, 4 builders, 1 basher (replay attached for no-digger)
Danger 9 - 2 climbers, 1 blocker, 1 miner, 1 digger (replay attached for 2-climbers)
Danger 10 - 11 builders (replay attached)
Danger 11 - 1 climber, 3 builders, 2 miners (replays attached for: 1-climber; 3-builders; no-basher; 2-miners. The no-basher solution, you can replace the digger with the basher for a no-digger)
Danger 12 - 10 climbers, 1 basher, 1 digger (replays attached for no-builders and 1-digger)

Some of the results that replays aren't provided for (by me) are Proxima's, see the next post.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2020, 05:12:16 am by namida »

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2020, 05:11:24 am »
My interesting replays from this session:

* Danger 5, 1 miner, and no basher
* Danger 7, miners only
* Danger 12, 10 climbers

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Skills you can't live without
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2020, 06:34:05 pm »
I ended up doing one more - was going to keep going but ran into Danger 14, which I didn't feel like taking on at the time.

For Danger 13 "Breakthrough" - 3 climbers, 4 bombers, 1 blocker, 5 builders

Replay attached that achieves 3 climbers, 4 bombers and 1 blocker all in the same replay (and saves 56, currently believed to be the maximum possible, too). You can remove the miner by swapping it out for an extra climb-bomber in said replay.