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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2016, 06:25:31 pm »
1.1 so soon? Indeed. I added 10 steel blocks. Steel in this tileset are simply silver bricks which look suspiciously like the pieces in the metal tileset. :-[

Thanks Minim for the cross suggestion, but I really like the look of the silver bricks instead.
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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2016, 09:23:39 pm »
OK. Taking a first glance at the set itself, let alone its update, I see some good points and some bits that are questionable.

Starting with the good points:
* Lots of terrain pieces and lots of different colours.
* I like the blend of two shades of grey as a steel piece. Good job on that.
* Innovative use of lego for water and unlock buttons.

Now the questionable stuff:
* While you have lots of pieces, I'd rather sort the pieces out by groups of shapes of the same colour, rather than the other way round, just like what you've done with the steel pieces.
* I can't see any curved steel pieces  unlike the rest of the terrain.pieces. It would look quite nice if you could add some of those in.
* I know there's a large navy blue block for a reason: To disguise the black pieces more easily. However, I found out that the length of that object clutters the pick object menu. Maybe half or quarter it? (It's only a small suggestion, and this may be something I should contact namida for: Reducing the size of large objects in a menu to make sure both the picture and the info is readable on one menu)
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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2016, 10:38:47 pm »
I HAVE to group by shape since I will be adding new shapes and pieces, but no new colors. Thus, either I can group by shape, or have no discernible grouping whatsoever. I can't constantly change the order of the pieces with each update, or else previous levels in this set will not run.

I will probably add more steel pieces in the next update, but I put in the basics for this one.

The background is 320x160 pixels, which is the standard level size default. If this seems to be a big deal (no pun intended), I may shrink it in future updates.
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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2016, 02:17:57 am »
I don't know if that will stand out enough... it would probably help to have some screenshots of potential designs in levels, rather than just the piece itself.

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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2016, 05:47:56 pm »
Unlock button / Locked exit suggestion: change the color of the gray unlock button or the gray lights on the top of the locked exit. Since the grey lights and the unlock buttons are the same color, people will also think that the gray lights on the top of the exit are unlock buttons. This in turn can cause a lot of confusion.

Perhaps the gray lights on the top of the locked exit should be of a darker gray instead.

Steel block suggestion: since mixing graphic sets is now possible, is it possible if you could change the design of the steel blocks a bit? When mixing the steel Lego pieces with those in the Metal graphic set, this can also cause major confusion. Perhaps implement Minim's cross suggestion into the steel blocks (but make the cross of a dark gray color)?
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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2016, 06:23:02 pm »
Good suggestions. I'll see what I can do. What would people think of the steel either:

1. Being black and yellow striped like a caution sign
2. Being silver in color, but having the traditional steel bolts in the corners

If you prefer one over the other, let me know either by replying or via PM.
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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2016, 06:41:02 pm »
It's worth keeping in mind that some responsibility for visual clarity falls on the level designer too, especially when mixing graphic sets together. The most important thing for a graphic set designer is to make sure that the pieces stick out within the graphic set, not nessecerially when compared to others.

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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2016, 08:57:00 pm »
steel either:
1. Being black and yellow striped like a caution sign
2. Being silver in color, but having the traditional steel bolts in the corners

Bolts around the edge are good, they make me interpret things as steel. Bolts in the 4 corners suffice in a pinch.

The coloring is secondary for me. It's good whenever earth and steel have different color schemes. If the only options are (1) or (2), then I choose (2) purely because of the bolts.

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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2016, 01:27:28 am »
I also like option 2; having bolts in the corners is a good-enough indicator of steel. If you'd like, you could even make it so the bolts are all around the edges (e.g. the bolts of steel pieces in the Martian tileset).
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Re: Lego tileset 1.1 available for download
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2016, 10:40:36 pm »
You have two different versions of the tileset available in this topic, which has lead to issues for at least one user. I strongly recommend attaching (or linking to) the tileset in the original post too, not only to avoid this, but to make it easier to find for people who want to download it.

Version 1.0 in this post: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2813.msg59513#msg59513
Version 1.1 in this post: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2813.msg59546#msg59546

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Re: Lego tileset 1.2 available for download
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2016, 01:12:03 am »
Version 1.2 is here! It includes:

the background object replaced with a single transparent pixel, since it is redundant with the new background support. This way, it won't affect any previously made levels.

4 new pieces of terrain in all 10 colors! These include an arch, a small arch, an "eye" piece, and a rounded ledge piece which give you more options for structures.

The steel now differentiates itself from the Metal tileset pieces by including the screws in the corners and sides.

2 new traps! One for the walls, and one for the floor/ceiling! They are technically the same trap, but they use two different objects due to the rotation messing up the trigger area.

Enjoy, and if you have suggestions for future pieces/objects, please post them here! I would love to hear some input! I have planned on putting in teleporters/receivers for the next update as well.

EDIT: Put the attachment on the first post to make it more convenient for people.
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Re: Lego tileset 1.2 available for download
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2016, 01:26:41 pm »
Might want to check this hasn't messed up the Lego level I sent you for your stream tomorrow :thumbsup:

Although it shouldn't if you haven't changed the terrain/object index numbers of anything in v1.1
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Re: Lego tileset 1.3 available for download
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2016, 08:11:18 pm »
Version 1.3 is out!

Changes:
FINALLY changed the color of the unlock button from dark grey to dark red (distinguishes from the buttons on the exits)
Added teleporter/receiver (extremely fast - all lemmings enter even at 99 RR)
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