Alright - with the Laserer confirmed to be making it into NL, and the physics more or less set in stone, it's time to start discussing the cosmetic side of things. How should the laserer look? Should the name "laserer" be kept or should we pick something else? Is the current position on the skill panel alright?

At this point, this is the "no such thing as a bad idea (within reason)" phase. Feel free to make radical suggestions - I recall seeing either in another topic or on Discord the idea that maybe it should be a waterblaster rather than a laser, sure, that's the kind of idea that can be thrown around now. Remember - what's confirmed is "we're getting a skill with more or less the exact physics the Laserer has in the latest exp build"; not "we're getting a skill with more or less the exact cosmetics the Laserer has in the latest exp build".

Already fixed in source code.

Attached level demonstrates it - note that the water's trigger area and the terrain are at the same height, and furthermore, it can be verified in CPM (by mousing over and looking at the pin) that the walkers and swimmers are at the same height before falling. However, the walker survives the fall, while the swimmer does not. Moving the landing platform 1px upwards allows the swimmers to survive.

I made this in particular with the Save-Em-Up challenge in mind, but this could be useful in general for various challenges (and perhaps some other uses) so uploading here.

This tool allows you to quickly apply the following modifications to an entire pack in one go:
- Changing the lemming count
- Changing the save requirement
- Changing the RR (including whether or not it's locked)
- Changing the time limit
- Changing the skillset
- Removing talismans
- Modifying level IDs*

* note that it derives the new one from the existing one, rather than outright generating a new one at random

To use:

1. Download and put in your base NL folder.
2. Run the app.
3. Select the pack you want to modify from the list (you might want to create a copy of it rather than modifying the original version).
4. In the "level stats" section, for each thing you want to change, check the checkbox and type in the amount you want to set it to. Time limit is in seconds; enter zero for unlimited. (If you want to leave the RR's locked/unlocked status unchanged, don't tick either the "Lock RR" or "Unlock RR" box. For everything else, leave the checkbox unticked to leave unchanged.)
5. If you want to replace the skillset, check the "Apply Custom Skillset" checkbox then enter your skillset; enter 100 (or higher) for unlimited. Note that this is not validated - it will not ensure that you only have 10 skills, nor will it account for pickups in any way.
6. Click "Apply".

The output NXLV files will have the original lines for modded stats / skillsets commented out (rather than erased altogether), with the new ones added at the end of the file. This makes no difference to how NL interprets the file, but makes it possible to recover the original values if need be. If you are using this for actual to-be-released levels (rather than just challenges / personal experiments), it is strongly recommended that you run the output through Cleanse Levels before releasing it, to tidy this up.

If it is not working correctly on any given level / pack, please try running the pack / level in question through Cleanse Levels first, before reporting any issues. If the issue persists after this, report it.

Note that there is currently no way to make this app take spawn intervals instead of release rates - I can add that later if there's demand. To convert a spawn interval to a release rate, subtract it from 103.

Source code is in the NL source code repo, under the "Tools" folder.

Once I have made final decisions about any of the skills, I will post them here.

Please keep in mind that if I say a skill is accepted;
- It still won't be included in a RC / stable build until all of the new skills are ready to go stable (or rejected), and this will be V12.12 at the earliest.
- It might still get further slight physics tweaks, though once declared "accepted" I would not expect any more major changes.
- Visuals / theming are still 100% up for discussion. This could mean (using an existing skill as an example) that if "Basher" was accepted, it could still be changed to "Flamethrowerer" later (while keeping the same general physics and at least similar specifics) - it would just mean that we would be getting a skill that has the physics of the "Basher".
- I won't be making decisions on all four skills as soon as this topic is made. I'll be posting in this topic as I make the decisions, which could still be a long time.

NL 12.10.0 onwards no longer supports LVL (or INI, or LEV) files, so the editor should not try to open them (as its ability to do so works on the basis of "get NL to convert it to an NXLV"), or indeed, should not offer the option to do so.

To be clear: This is not proposing removing any functionality. The editor never had the ability to open these files; it had the ability to ask NL to convert them to NXLV (and then open the resulting NXLV). NL no longer supports these formats, so this is essentially "the editor needs to stop asking it to try, and stop suggesting to the user that it can do so".

Attached level demonstrates it best, but basically - when a Swimmer encounters terrain and needs to move downwards, it can move further if it is not a climber, than it can if it is one.

This is presumably meant to be "climbing has priority over diving if the dive would be this far", but didn't have a fallback "...but still dive if climbing is not possible".

(Link to DOS equivalent)

Alright, let's bring over yet another classic challenge. This one is a bit tricky to understand - you are trying to find the lowest number ("n"), such that you can solve the level with no more than N uses of each skill, while also remaining within the original skillset.

So in other words - for an N-of-each solution to count, all of the following conditions must be met:
1. The solution actually solves the level (of course)
2. No skill type is used more times than the skillset (+ available pickups, where applicable) already allows for
3. No skill type is used more than N times

Preassigned skills do not count towards this, as usual.

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Lemmings Redux

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|Quirky | 2  1  5  2  5  1  4  2  3  9  1  2  1  7  2  4  4  6  1  1  2 10  3  4  3  4  2  2  2  4  5 12 |
|Zany   | 2  8  3  3  2  1  1  2  1  1  2  4  4  4  3  4  4  3  1  3  6  3  2  1  5  2  5  3  3  2  3  9 |
|Manic  | 2  3  6  4  4  1  4  7 11  8 10  1  2  2  2  6  1  2  4  3  2  3  4  2  2  7  3  6  2  3  4  9 |
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