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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #105 on: September 05, 2023, 05:49:21 PM »
BTW i think i figured out your Chaos 4 Containment intention route. Is it this?

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BTW All my 3 previous Chaos levels solution 1:04 was more or less backroutes. Okay i think figured out intention Chaos 4.

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Chaos 20 Hell´S Challenger (1:04 version)

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Honeslty your Chaos mode levels being started truly hard at this point. Take me whole night make at least one more completion solution.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #106 on: September 06, 2023, 02:19:36 AM »
Yes, that's the intended solution of Containment - well done.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #107 on: September 07, 2023, 03:09:01 AM »
Huh we are working Crane 1:05 version a lot a today.

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How ever one my Longest progress finally done

Chaos 3. Incompressible. I was just going to sleep when my brain runs overdrive. I just simply figured out it when i trying to rest.

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Chaos 3 solution. I think its intented. Its have to be.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #108 on: September 07, 2023, 04:55:50 AM »
That is intended for Chaos 3 - well done, you finally got it!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #109 on: September 07, 2023, 03:23:42 PM »
We got yesterday done Crane Level Chaos 17 Divisive action. Its only take me 6 modify 1:05  prototype boards when we patch all backroutes and let only intention remain. Its will be pretty backroute free in 1:05 version. 8-)

Here we go again. Totally new level for me (never played before)
Chaos 29 Christmas Spirit (completion solution only) not contains talisman.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #110 on: September 07, 2023, 10:03:44 PM »
Chaos 27 Dodge This completion solution

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Yeah that Chaos 27 was backroute. I´ll wait see your fixed solution. You can just send me fixed solution with PM. I´ll try solved it.

Chaos 15 Dropship 12

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Chaos 16 High Rise Hijinks

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2023, 04:39:05 AM »
As I mentioned elsewhere, Chaos 27 is a backroute and completely unexpected, but has hopefully been fixed now.  Chaos 15 was also a backroute which is easy enough to patch.

Chaos 16 was intended though - well done!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2023, 01:15:57 PM »
Chaos 27 Dodge This! solution B (Played 1.05 prototype version) Replay workded 1:04 version too. 1:05 prototype version are patch this "updraf bug" So we cannot use it anymore.

This is backroute for sure too. I still spend 5 hours with this. I just tried figured Crane intention route, but my best got 48 saved, and i really did my best. I think its might some close intention idea more than my completion solution.

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Okay Crane I´ll wait your new patch solution. Just PM me and answer my question about 48 saved solution. I´ll want find your intention way. But i think i first break your level. :D
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #113 on: September 08, 2023, 11:49:59 PM »
Most of the levels seem to be patched now, or at least you haven't broken them any further!  You've definitely been busy, that's for sure!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2023, 08:35:40 AM »
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Most of the levels seem to be patched now, or at least you haven't broken them any further!  You've definitely been busy, that's for sure!

No problem. I´ll want work that your pack perfect as i can. This your pack is like my own child. I loved it but i´ll chastise it. This is quite fun too. I got personally few laughs when we prgresss Divisive Action and you have to patch this level over 6 times and i have to solved it too. Total hours we spend was 8 hours. Divisive Action are always my one favorite level your pack. I am glad we finally got perfect level 1.05 version.

Your 1.05 version will be brutal. I´ll load it myself when you are done. I have to some test your level yet. We are pretty done about rough backroutes. That work what we do Divisive action was fun and requirs some sarcasm.. Its definitely backroute free right now. IIRC We spend this levle 8 hours+
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #115 on: September 13, 2023, 12:13:41 PM »
Is that finally your intention solution Chaos 27 Dodge this!. Okay i work that 6 more hours today.

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At this point that my perfect. Or is this 3rd alternate backroute solution? This might be hilarious if i figured out 3rd backroutes in this level. ;P


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Okay only 2 levels remain orginal Chaos version
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Though a lot your fixed levels are remain.

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Other 2 prototype level 1:05 Proto
Chaos 12 Chilly dispostion 1:05 proto v3 completion
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Chaos 15 Dropship 12 1:05 Proto version

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Chaos 10 Wrong Side Failure (1.04 completion route) Not contain talisman, so i think its not intented. I´ll attempt that talisman bit later.

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Chaos 10 Wrong Side Failure (talisman completed)
Youtube video contains both way differents solutions. 2nd one contains talisman.
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EDIT: 4***********************
Chaos 18 Splashdown
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2023, 03:52:10 AM »
Hopefully Chaos 15 and 18 are fixed now.  I recall that small wall I removed being necessary for a backroute patching in the past, but I can't remember what it was for - hopefully nothing major. We're so close to 1.05 being ready.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2023, 09:34:50 PM »
I think Chaos 15 is totally fixed i cannot solved it anymore. That previous proto version was tough ones, this newest is burn out. :devil:

Okay we are figured out a lot backroutes Chaos 18 Splashdown. Have to fix it a lot.

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Chaos 12 Chilly disposition is ready. Okay this level also take some several times patch alls. My completion solution was little bit different than Crane, but accetable.  Chaos 27 Dodge It was intention last time. That was very frustrating level for me. Take me total 12 hours and got find two backroutes. Both will patched 1.05 version

Chaos 10 Wrong Side-Failure

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BTW here is my new completion. I think its intention. There is not really other choices
Chaos 2 Polar Pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGUUyYj9knY

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Chaos 9 Overflow (1.04 version completion solution) Two my backroute was fixed already 1.01 version. Not sure is this ideal? But that way i got pass it with this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZ33cmMzrU

Only few 1.04 version Chaos levels are remains yet I count 5 levels.

Chaos 1, 6, 13, 14 & 25 We still make hard progress 1.05 version. Its will be some very brutal compared 1.04 version. :devil:

EDIT 2***************************************
Chaos 1 SUNSOFT Swindle (1.04 version completion solution)

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Total 4 Level remain in Chaos & 1 level remain challenge mode. 145/150 levels are completed 1.04 version.
Challenge 29 (yes im not are put effort wiht this level) I just are helping improve Crane pack and mostly Chaos levels.
Chaos 6, 13, 14 & 25

I am nearly testing everythings and yeah this all are taking so much time, but luckily i have good amount waste time.:) I´ll glad to help improve Crane pack. I think we both are pretty tired and frustratings at this point. Backroutes here and there. :P Have to make better and plan better.

I´ll hope i am good test player. I´ll do my best. :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #118 on: September 15, 2023, 08:44:13 PM »
We finally got perfect Chaos 18 Splashdown done. Thats tired we both. Crane fix and solved. IIRC that 7-8 prototype version which forced me use intention route. We also make it little bit harder/sharper. I think i´ll make some youtube video collections all denied routes later when 1.05 are released. Many denied routes was also genius and learn a lot with lemmings. Its like Chaos 17 Divisive Action. Its also take a lot work patch all.

BTW my Chaos 1 SUNSOFT Swindle and Polar Pass both was backroutes. With this time i not have even any good clues about intentions those solutions How ever:

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Also Chaos 9 Oveflow was backroute. (that not my personal favorite level, i´ll look it later though. At this time we hardly work Chaos 22 Hallowed Ground. This like new Splashdown and Divisive Action. So many alternate ways and very hard find intented.

Thats my real full time job are Crane test player. I am learn a lot with lemmings travel with this.  8-)

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Chaos 6 Mind the Gap (1.04 version completion solution (not contains talisman) and its might backroute. Im not know Crane intention idea here. My 1.01 version route was closed, so i goes little bit different with this time, but quite similar main idea used.. 1.01 starting replay working well here. But end part goes different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-eaYZGqDo


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Chaos 14 There is one small problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-IVh6s6d9s

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Only 2 Level are remain Chaos mode 1.04 version (3 levels remain total 1.04 version) 147/150 levels completed)
13 Cliffside Hostel (only level i never are beat even 1.01 version). This level is heck nightmare. Only good thing its quite shorth.
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25 Immortal (new board is completely different. Im not are give any shot new version level yet, might go for it soon.


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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #119 on: September 16, 2023, 05:49:06 AM »
There isn't room for your genius trick on SUNSOFT Swindle in the pack unfortunately, unless another level gets completely broken and has to be replaced.  But I am saving the idea for something in the future maybe.

Still patching other levels though.