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CURRENT VERSION: v1.07

It is finally here, the one everyone has been waiting for!  Lemmings Cranium, 150 levels from Crane!  Some old, some new, some with a twist.

I tend to be a traditionalist with level design, so most of these levels use only the original 8 skills and game mechanics.  However, that's not to say I don't branch out into new ideas, and you will find plenty of levels using the new skills.  Enjoy the ride!

Cute
A nice, gentle start to the journey, but don't get complacent.


Curious
Some advanced tricks start to be introduced in this rank.  Make sure you think ahead.


Cunning
Now it starts to get difficult.  How good are your lateral thinking skills?


Challenge
Take a step back for a moment and revisit some original levels with a twist... less time, higher save requirements or fewer tools provide a new challenge.


Chaos
Playtime's over.  Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.  Think you're good enough?


Note: The music ZIP is quite a hefty 50 MB download and can be found here on Dropbox.

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« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 06:20:10 AM by Crane »

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Minor update to the menu credits.  Can't forget kaywhyn and his help in converting my old CUSTLEMM levels to NeoLemmix.

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I should encourage you chaps a little bit.  There's something for everyone in this pack.

Cute: Fun/Tricky, touching on Taxing a bit at the end.
Curious: Taxing/Mayhem
Cunning: Havoc, touching on Very Hard a bit at the end.
Challenge: Taxing to Very Hard
Chaos: Very Hard to Extreme
« Last Edit: June 01, 2023, 04:29:25 PM by Crane »

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Very awesome looking pack, but got little tech troubles. I start play it, but game stopped cute 9. Some pieces used level are missing, you will not be able allow play this level.

This weird i load zips. IIRC i am got some same type troubles other special type levels too.
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Cute 9 seems to work fine for me. saved 20 lemmings.
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Cute 9 seems to work fine for me. saved 20 lemmings.

Yeah this look its not allow me play levels which have those special type background like Cute 9, 12 & Curious 5. Then my neolemmix give me text: Some pieces used level are missing, you will not be able allow play this level. 

Other type levels work very well. Luckily most levels work. All normal type lemminsg levels and also Xmas level work well.

I think i´ll need manually set some pieces (like this background). This somereason not zip that correctly. I am just skip those 3 levels and keep playing otherones.  This seems very great pack. Also surprisely tough one. Cute 29 take me while to solved even it is step 1 mode level.

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I'll have a check of that.

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Cute 9 requires you to have the ray_spooky style installed. If you have online features enabled, you can do this from within NL. Otherwise, this link goes to the all styles download: https://www.neolemmix.com/download.php?program=52

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Ah yes, a number of levels have custom backgrounds, mostly for the aesthetics.

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My general theming is that the last handful of levels of a rank give you a taste of things to come, so like the last levels of Cute are quite a bit tougher.

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Some useful information - the following backgrounds are used:

- flopsy_deathegg:deathegg_act2
- flopsy_starlight:starlight
- gigalem_desertmd:night
- gigalem_skymd:cloudtops_night
- l3_shadow:mines_sky
- namida_bridge:night_small
- namida_clockwork:cogs
- namida_mineshaft:rocky
- orig_marble:marble_level
- orig_dirt_md:genesis_blue
- orig_fire:fire_level
- ray_snow:back_repeat_snow
- ray_spooky:spooky_inside
- ray_spooky:spooky_night
- special:amiga_blue
- zanzindorf_agony:agony_night

The MegaDrive blue I can probably replace with the Amiga blue in a future release so things are a bit more harmonious.

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Cute 9 requires you to have the ray_spooky style installed. If you have online features enabled, you can do this from within NL. Otherwise, this link goes to the all styles download: https://www.neolemmix.com/download.php?program=52

Thanks. Its work well rightnow.

BTW:
Just test final level. My completion replay Chaos 30 Last Lemming Standing. Very interesting last level. Saved all 41. I take little shortcut attempt to last level. My actual game is goes middle of curious.

EDIT:
Final Level Gold talisman. Beat sub 5 minutes. 4 minutes 17 seconds. I think i could even sub 4 minutes. I think need little bit better starting i think.

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Final Level speedrun 3:32. Let se did i can make sub 3 minutes. Damn this is fun level.:)
« Last Edit: June 04, 2023, 03:21:54 AM by MASTER-88 »
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Sub 3 minutes Final Level speedrun. 2:58:76. Okay Gold Talisman required under 5 minutes. Okay very happy with this.:thumbsup: This could be still done faster, i am pretty pleased it rightnow. I think i set good PACE. I think its time to go sleep or something. This pack are keeping me play whole night.

Somereason i loved that last level and stuck to play this. 

EDIT:
Added Chaos 30 Final level silver talisman less than 40 skills. That was actually much harder than gold talisman IMO. Have to look bronze talisman yet. I think i´ll need few beers.:crylaugh:

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« Last Edit: June 04, 2023, 06:06:52 AM by MASTER-88 »
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Sub 3 minutes Final Level speedrun. 2:58:76. Okay Gold Talisman required under 5 minutes. Okay very happy with this.:thumbsup: This could be still done faster, i am pretty pleased it rightnow. I think i set good PACE. I think its time to go sleep or something. This pack are keeping me play whole night.

Somereason i loved that last level and stuck to play this. 

EDIT:
Added Chaos 30 Final level silver talisman less than 40 skills. That was actually much harder than gold talisman IMO.

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I'm glad you liked the final level!  I did design it to be a grand finale rather than the hardest level, and it sounds like it worked beautifully!

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Yeah thats really great pack. Just make level to level i am somewhere Curious level 17 level rightknow. Many even those curious mode levels are very tough one and give good challenge. Did you Crane can tell me which is hardest level in your opinion?

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Last level is finally busted with all talismans. Bronze solution.
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Hardest levels, hmmm... I don't want to spoil too much, but either Chaos 24, 27 or 28.

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Hardest levels, hmmm... I don't want to spoil too much, but either Chaos 24, 27 or 28.

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Best of luck!

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3 Hours attempts Chaos 28. Okay this Level is MAD. I´ll need little bit break and little bit more beers and keep attempts.. I´ll post my best attempt so far. This level is torture masochist,m but its just fun, because i loved torture myself.:evil: I enjoy brutal levels.:crylaugh: You definitely right. This one is harder than last level.


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At least the backroutes have been fixed!  Enjoy the masochism!

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Okay i think my 24h Crane lemmings marathon is over.

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I continued my casual pack playing soon. But Will goes back in Chaos when i want torture myself again next 24h. I always think my own lemmings packs is hard to beat. Its really nothing compared this pack. This pack is just EXTREME and INTENSE, but its very great pack. Probablly greates i ever played. :thumbsup:

Let eat and sleep. :sleep:

BTW Awesome Musics. Just froget load this zip when i start. This really help me in final level. Its way too tirsesome hear casual lemmings themes. Even i like lemmings themes.
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If you play the levels in order, you are occasionally introduced to some advanced tricks... or rather the level guides you to use them... and then you're expected to remember them without prompt later on!

So is that level and Chaos 30 the only ones you've completed in that rank so far?
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JES JES JES. Chaos 28 Completed. Whole 12 hours attempts a today. :evil: Finally managed beat it. This level was so fucking pain. But this level completion really make me super happy :thumbsup: its nearly explose my brains out. :lem-mindblown:

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Yest that was my 3rd level to completed in Chaos. 17, 28 & 30 completed rightnow. (30 caught all talismans) I´ll post level 17 replay as you ask me.

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« Last Edit: June 05, 2023, 11:11:59 PM by MASTER-88 »
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Both solutions are backroutes.  I'll make a note to fix those in v1.02.  I'm glad I made you work hard for the solution to Chaos 28 though!

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Both solutions are backroutes.  I'll make a note to fix those in v1.02.  I'm glad I made you work hard for the solution to Chaos 28 though!

LOL Backroutes. ;P My ideas really are goes totally burn out any other completion routes Chaos 28.  :lem-shocked:  There is another Chaos 17 solution. Im not know which was this backroute last time?

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EDIT:
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EDIT 2:
Chaos 5 Perilous Parkous Completion solution
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EDIT: 3 Chaos 5 Perilous Parkour Silver solution
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EDIT: 4: Chaos 5 Perilous Parkour Bronze solution
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BTW. Okay I´ll try few more attempt to beat Chaos 26 (before bed time). This level look way too simple, but i somereason can´t figured out that. I might overlook some badly.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2023, 08:19:13 AM by MASTER-88 »
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Chaos 26 is very deceptive - it's called
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for a reason! You have to really think outside the box.

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Chaos 26 is very deceptive - it's called
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for a reason! You have to really think outside the box.

Oh yes
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Last solution a today. Just another 20 hours lemmings marathon in row, so i´ll need another 12 hours sleeps next. Final solution a today.

Chaos 10 Wrong-Side Failure
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Crumbs, you're doing well in finding the backroutes - well done! (I generally only have one solution for Chaos levels, with an exception for 30)

Perhaps you can solve my personal favourite level:
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Crumbs, you're doing well in finding the backroutes - well done! (I generally only have one solution for Chaos levels, with an exception for 30)

Perhaps you can solve my personal favourite level:
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Thanks. Im not never are even imagine those all what i got found was back routes. Thats surprise me as well too. Thats my usual style to play, is look leveles visually. I am not very good mathematic things etc..., but i am very great all visual looking things. Usually levels which requires those tons frame steps and very few skills caused me most headache. Even my IQ is above avarage 135, im not very good mathematic. Just some asberger talent all visual things. Abou Thats your favorite level.

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BTW This classic mode "Challenge" was very great idea in this pack.  First i think this mode will be very easy for me. I am mastered those SNES lemmings levels very well. I just come across one hardest levels i ever played. Not completed. Just Spend one hour and  just banging one's head against a brick walls without succesfully

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Be right back. :thumbsup:
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I'm on the spectrum too and am more mathematically-inclined, but I try to balance science and art.  Keep up with the level playing!  How far along are you with doing the levels in order?
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I'm on the spectrum too and am more mathematically-inclined, but I try to balance science and art.  Keep up with the level playing!  How far along are you with doing the levels in order?

Im not are played order to order. Expect Cute mode. Spend most time played Chaos & Challenge solutions.

Few more completions todays and few levels, which i really gived up because i got really pissed off :devil:, even i did know main idea, but cannot figured out those fucking pixels, but i´ll put some replays my progress a today. Chaos 8 & 24 was completions. Chaos 3 & 21 just potential attempts. Just trying too much figured out, but even with hundreds attempts, im not got perfect succesfull

Chaos 8: Tier Drops
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Chaos 24: Hall Of Reflections
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I also completed few Challenge levels. I´ll put replays later, just forget those level names.

Here is also Few Chaos Level i am very close call, but did something little things wrong. How ever i´ll still put replays my best attempts.

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« Last Edit: June 08, 2023, 04:34:36 AM by MASTER-88 »
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I still have some "broken levels" I think i set all those backgrounds right. Next levels will requires some missing pieces. I´ll give list all:

Curious level 20
Cunning levels 5, 10, 20 & 25
Chaos Levels 15 & 25

I´ll need some special pieces with those levels.
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All of the levels you listed use special tilesets that have to be downloaded.

  • Curious 20, Cunning 5 = Tree (namida)
  • Cunning 10 = Biolab (Raymanni)
  • Cunning 20 = Thorn (bulletride)
  • Cunning 25 = L3 Biolab
  • Chaos 15 = L2 Space
  • Chaos 25 = Machine (namida)

Tier Drops was intended, well done.  Chaos 24 needs patching, bah!  Such a simple backroute too.

None of my levels require luck with crowd control, but some use some pretty advanced or obscure tricks.  Chaos 3 has a slight clue in its name.

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I'll release a v1.02 on Monday or the weekend, pending any other problems that are found.
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Thanks those tile list.:)

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BTW. I got very inspirated make my own Amiga level pack (will contains 30 retro levels boards with new skills and limit). Your challenge mode insipirated me make my own challenge mode. I´ll post more about this my own topic later.

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I'm glad I inspired you to make a Challenge rank!  Hopefully I can fix the backroutes that have appeared and present a nice, polished pack.

So which Chaos levels have you completed now? (Note that some levels in earlier ranks introduce you to some advanced tricks that are necessary to solve some of the Chaos levels).
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Oh i see Freedemon planet contains a lot awesome themes. Just listen something. I never are heard that game before.

I am completed only very few Chaos levels. Even spending hours.
-5, 8, 10,17,24, 28 & 30 are completed. Just attempts a lot levels 3, 21 & 26 without succesful. I am beat all cute levels, half curious levels and few challenge levels. Also one completion in cunnings.

I have a lot levels remain yet.

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Version 1.02 released, which fixes a number of backroutes and rearranges some earlier ranks to make the difficulty curve smoother.

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Damn you are pretty "Naughty man"  All times which i spend solved Chaos 28 is now destroyhded, so have to back this level again. I´ll scream and cry: lem-mindblown:How ever this level always interested me. :thumbsup:
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Okay, if I'm a naughty man I'm destroying the pack.  I can't live with that reputation.

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I actually understand your logic. I also hate "broken levels my packs" I didi several my 1st pack and also a lot 2nd paqck, but 3rd pack give me more experience about neolemmings system.
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Thanks. You return your pack again. This is way too awesome pack to miss in cyberspace.

I am sorry i set some "black humor" & sarcasm. That was not my intention offense your lifework. I am just a social idiot sometimes. :forehead:

Crane you are my friend. Im not want make your bad feelings.:):thumbsup:

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Chaos 6 Mind The Gap completed

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Not sure how I feel about that one, since none of the intended gimmicks were used at all.  Might need patching, although hard to find a way that doesn't ruin the aesthetics a bit.  Well done though.
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Not sure how I feel about that one, since none of the intended gimmicks were used at all.  Might need patching, although hard to find a way that doesn't ruin the aesthetics a bit.  Well done though.

Yeah its nearly impossible make large lemmings pack without alternate strategies. Even you are blocked really many potential ways very well.

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So I've patched Chaos 6 and released it on the Discord group. I'll mark it for inclusion in v1.03, but just waiting to see if any new problems are uncovered.

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Chaos 4 Containment  completion solution

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Now I understand why BulletRide put one-way arrows up there in their version.  Both are backroutes - hmph!

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That is the intention of the level.  Stonecrest Bay is meant to be a traditional level though.  I think I have a way to fix it though.

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Curiously, did you manage to get the levels with the special tilesets to work?

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I think i could make those work. I just crash my previous neolemmix player few days ago, and i have to load neolemming player and all things over again, includes backgrounds, packs, replays and etc.... stuffs. So im not are set all things back yet.

BTW: Last chaos replay tonight. Chaos level 9 Overflow

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Indeed, a backroute - should be fixable though.  Good work!

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Cannot sleep. One more level.

Chaos 22 Hallowed ground

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A backroute if only because the one-way arrows don't reach low enough!

EDIT: Actually it's badly broken.  Have to think hard.
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Chaos 18 Splashdown

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Crane like really test my lemmings skills.:thumbsup:
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Chaos 23 Thanatos Gambit (2 little bit different solutions 2nd one is little bit faster) How ever im not pick up talisman

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I´ll put some more effort try find talisman solution yet. Let see did i can figured out it. I´ll goes travels in friday morning, so then i´ll keep some over one week to break.
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Have to back this question again. I got find some tilesets like Chaos 15, this level working now. How ever here is some tilesets missing.

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This is only tile set which are missing in Chaos mode. I am just focus play most chaos mode. So here might be some other missing too. I´ll might back this later again. I am got find a most myself.

I have most (namida) tile sets, but this Machine tile sets is somewhere in cyberspace.
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Machine is one of the Lemmings Plus tilesets, and shouldn't be any harder to get hold of than any of the others. Either use the in-game styles manager, or this link:

https://www.neolemmix.com/styles/12.11/namida_machine.zip

or the full download of all styles: https://www.neolemmix.com/download.php?program=52

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Hey Thanks Proxima. Yeah i got this level play well now.:thumbsup:

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Chaos 1: SUNSOFT Swindle (completion solution) (backroute?)

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Let see. How ever. I completed it with that way used. If i counted right that was 16th orginal version Chaos level completed rightnow. How ever Crane will fixed those routes later. ;P

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Yep, it's a backroute, and difficult to fix too.
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v1.03 has been released.  A lot of backroute fixes in this one.  Get the latest version from the first post of this topic.

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Chaos 20 Hell Challenger

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I still play 1:01 version because i have several levels remain. I´ll always target find backroutes. How ever its strated be "impossible" soon.  At this point Crane levels start be really hard.

I am still stuck Chaos 26. That was one first chaos level i played and im not are completed it yet. I am spend at least good 10 hours with this level and im not even figured out any serious idea completed it. I think i am miss some neolemmings trick or somethings. :P This level really "kidding me":D

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The solutions aren't intended, but a lot of the required elements are there, so it should be easily patched and easy enough for you to re-solve - good work!

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The solutions aren't intended, but a lot of the required elements are there, so it should be easily patched and easy enough for you to re-solve - good work!

Okay. That nice to know. And thanks.:)

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Bit of a backroute unfortunately - a digger there is not supposed to be successful, but good job nonetheless.

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I am sorry Crane. I think you have to make 1:04 version yet.;P

I totally broke this level :evil:
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Don't worry - version 1.04 is planned!  A couple of earlier levels got fixes and adjustments too.

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v1.04 has been released!  Find the updated link here on the first post.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2023, 12:14:19 PM »
Finally load 1:04 version. Let see how many my old replays (1:01) will work here?

I attempts first time Cunning mode levels a today (spend most of time/hours on Chaos mode). (im not are perfect focus mode, so my attempts was pretty lazy) But i quickly notice thos levels are nearly as hard as some Chaos mode levels IMO. Challenge mode is not that hard for me, because i am mastered those old boards quite well when i work SNES, Oh no more lemmings & Genesis solutions, most those old boards are quite familiar for me because spend time 20-30 years with those boards.

How ever Crane pack is one best pack i ever played. I liked those retro style and very high challenge. Yeah compelted this pack will take easily years. So i think this will be my end time job.

I am extremely intereste Chaos 28  Denial. I spend with this level 12 hours+ with 1:01 version and when i finally completed it, that was backroute. This board is simply genius IMO. 1:04 are blocked my backroute i see. So its time to try find new one or intention one.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #70 on: August 20, 2023, 07:02:42 AM »
Heh, some of the later Cunning levels are hard, while Challenge is a break from things and is its own mini-game.  Good luck on Chaos 28!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #71 on: August 20, 2023, 09:24:45 AM »
Some 1:04 Chaos solutions. I think those strated goes pretty much inention route rightnow. I also completed several Cunning levels. Might post replays later.

Level 17 Diviside Action

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Level 19 JAILBREAK!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2023, 01:14:42 PM »
Divisive Action
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JAILBREAK!
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Halls of Reflection
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2023, 05:16:31 PM »
Might be backroute. Cunning 13 Compression Method 2

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How ever that was hardest cunning level at this point game. I am played those cunning levels mostly order to order. I´ll post more cunning videos youtube later.  Let see did i figured other backroutes.

Just figured out simple thing.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2023, 06:19:47 PM »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2023, 01:50:45 AM »
Okay. My nearly 20h progress a todays. Its sadly ended level 14. I got totally Stuck next levels 15+. So i´ll make next videos random order.

Cunning level 9-12
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This point cunning mode start goes really crazy. Might make level completions one by one and random order because im not really care stuck each level 5-10 hours.

That was nice 20 hours Cranium marathon a today. Have to keep rest next. Be back later. Hope i got some frehs ideas.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2023, 08:15:01 AM »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2023, 08:59:42 AM »
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BTW. You ask me youtube did you forget post music zip Cunning 13. This look im not are load this theme. Even i am load buch of your music when i load your large zip. How ever at least 2 themes is missing. I checkout my old folders too, but yeah at least those two themes are missing.
-Passagae
-Prophecy 1 (this theme is used at least challenge level Angels fear.

If you can just PM me or load music zip. I could load those missing themes.

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Here is this trick you ask me show. That was at least news to me (accident find), when i just foucs turn that climber to back. How ever im not really think you will need it often or its ruin your chaos levels. Its might give 1-2 pixels extra heights and help turn climber when you very rarery need it. Like you will see in replay its not help me very much later level.




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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2023, 09:23:00 AM »
Dang - sorry about that.  Here are the missing tracks.

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« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2023, 09:26:42 AM »
That trick was pretty cool!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #80 on: August 21, 2023, 10:07:00 PM »
I think this is best possible what i can do Cunning 16

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Okay i´ll post my best attempt zip and go for move next level. There is 2 theory: I overlook some simple things very badly or there is trick what i didn´t know. ???

How ever i was glad i got find that nice trick yesterday, even its was pointless here. :laugh:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #81 on: August 22, 2023, 07:54:09 AM »
At least finally beat Cunning 15 S.C.R.O.O.G.E. This level also take me embarrassed long to beat. I look 4 hours few days ago and with this morning i decide i´ll beat it, what ever its will requires. Only 4 and half hours attempts. Total 8 hours+. Its longer than most levels i completed. Avaraga hard level take me some 2-3 hours around. Example Chaos 19 JAILBREAK. Casual leveles take usually 40-90 minutes to solved.  But here is level i am spend 12 hours+ and never find intention solution. Example Chaos 28. And my very hard backroute not work anymore 1:04 version.

15/30 Cunning Levels completed. 1:04 version.

ASK little question abotu cunning 16 under spoiler tag.

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Here is completion solution Cunning 15. One harder level at this point game. Im not reach talisman, but i think i have to time things little bit better and will be reach it later when i focus more. Damn this level was complicated.

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Cunning 28 Wishing Well (okay this is surely backroute) But its quite nice.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2023, 03:32:30 PM »
Cunning 28 is a backroute, but looks like it can be fixed if I'm more careful with the steel there.  Well done in completing Cunning.  I look forward to seeing all of the videos on YouTube soon!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #83 on: August 22, 2023, 03:55:33 PM »
Hey thanks explains Cunning 16.

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Few more cunnings completions
Level 18 Crunsh Time (okay im not trying talisman solutions) Both might be very different than my completion solution
Level 19 Shim-Shimminy Shim Shimminy
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Level 26 Prize Catch (completion only) I see here is talisman too. Have to look those talisman solutions later, its quickly look quite difficult one.

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This is last level i´ll play with today. Very tired rightnow.

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Also posted videos youtube expect level 26. I´ll post it later. I think i´ll need sleep little bit. Level 15 & 16 really drain my brain powers.


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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #84 on: August 23, 2023, 03:30:44 AM »
Two "simple" levels completion todays

Cunning 21 Thats it!?? & 22 Pipe Burst

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #85 on: August 23, 2023, 05:08:04 AM »
17, 19, 21, 22 and 26 are all backroutes.  Granted, Cunning 21 is a little more open-ended than the other levels, but I will make some minor fixes.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #86 on: August 23, 2023, 09:44:59 AM »
I´ll see i am figured a lot backroutes. I think level 27 is also non intention route.

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Here is youtube video 26 & 27 both
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And level 27 zip

I just figured out i am beat most cunning 1:04 version levels. Some are remains yet. I think this 16 might my forever progress though. ;P
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #87 on: August 23, 2023, 12:48:07 PM »
Cunning levels 24 & 25
24 Heaven and Earth
25 Cloning Vats

Completion solution in youtube
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Level 24 Heaven and Earth
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Level 25 Cloning Vats
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I´ll post replay zips too if crane have to fix his pack. I am pretty surprise i am got find that much backroutes over again. I did same type finds when i play Chaos mode 1:01 version.

No much cunning levels remains 20, 23 & 30

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And here is zips. Be right back. Great pack Crane. :thumbsup:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #88 on: August 23, 2023, 03:17:50 PM »
Oh my God. I am completely idiot. :XD: Okay Cunning 16 solved.

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I think i have check out Chaos 28 next. I think i am overlooked this level as well so much.

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How ever 3 Levels remains Cunnings yet. 20, 23 & 30.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2023, 08:12:32 PM »
Heh, I'm glad you managed to solve Cunning 16 at last!  Levels are being patched nicely for 1.05 too!  You planning to go through the Challenge rank or Cute and Curious for sake of completion?  Some of the talismans are a little tough!

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« Reply #90 on: August 24, 2023, 09:06:16 AM »
Heh, I'm glad you managed to solve Cunning 16 at last!  Levels are being patched nicely for 1.05 too!  You planning to go through the Challenge rank or Cute and Curious for sake of completion?  Some of the talismans are a little tough!

Many levels are remain yet. I am beat all levels your Cute mode. I am completed 16 levels in row curious mode. (will be back this later, its just intention i let some remains, because when i want solved easier levels sometimes when i am tired) I am currently completed 27/30 levels your cunning mode. And some half levels are completed challenge mode (how ever there is very hard talisman challenges remains, im not are catch notihing those ones) I am beat most your levels Chaos mode (1:01 version) but nearly all was backroute. So techincally im not are beat many your levels 1:04 version. Only few replays match here comparred 1:01.

I start focus my all effort cunning mode. I`ll also will hope my replays help you make pack harder & better. I´ll knew how frustrating it is make some extreme levels. I was personally very frustrated when i work my own pack Custom +3 Step 5 myself  Armani was my test player here. So i think i finally got at least accetable Step 5. But like Armani say. Its impossible avoid backroutes. Some pack have to be fixed even 100 times.

Be right back.:) This your pack is definitely one my personal favorite. :)

No worry i have a lot job with your pack yet. And its seems 1:05 version will be even much harder Cunning mode in future.

BTW:
I´ll se you not use sliders your pack. Is this your intention? Its one most genius skill IMO. There is tons different slider tricks, and most was news to me. Armani show me a lot.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2023, 09:27:22 PM »
Most of my levels are relatively old and I started assembling the pack before the Slider and Laserer were introduced.  The Jumper and Shimmier are the latest skills used in the pack.  If I had to list the skills used:

* Climber
* Floater
* Bomber
* Blocker
* Builder
* Basher
* Miner
* Digger
* Walker
* Jumper
* Glider
* Swimmer
* Disarmer
* Stoner
* Platformer
* Stacker
* Fencer
* Cloner

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #92 on: August 27, 2023, 04:42:46 PM »
Okay thanks answer.

About Cunning mode. There is only 2 level remain anymore. Just two levesl 20 & 30 are remain cunning 1:04. Completed level 23 today.

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Here is also Cunning 23 completion zip.

Quote
Remind me... which levels of Chaos haven't you completed yet in any form?

Hmm have to think.
Orginal Chaos mode levels.

My 1:01 playlist contains 23 videos.
But next levels are remain your oginal pack
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj3c0EEl3WdWAceBm_sCJCYq

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How ever i  think only few my Chaos levels solution match your 1:04 version anymore.

Have to count some challanged levels later. I have several remain, but also several completions, but all completions in random orders. Yes i´ll agrees some your challenge levels are really hard. At least

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #93 on: August 27, 2023, 06:06:50 PM »
For Cunning 23:
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Indeed, Challenge 27 is quite hard but also unique because it forces this level to be solved differently to normal.  Challenge 27, 28 and 29 have a reputation of being very hard levels!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #94 on: August 27, 2023, 08:16:09 PM »
Here we go again. Cunning 30 Run!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9DJN2Eo8ss&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

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BTW I spend another 45-60 minutes level 20, but this level really like freeze me over again. Just cannot figured any working idea right now. I have to look it later again or moved challenge mode next. 20 is only cunning mode level remain yet. I think i´ll want all green marks UP.

EDIT****************
Cunnings Mode 1:04 is completed succesfully.
Level 20 Ziggurat
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Very happy all 30 cunning levels are done.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #95 on: August 28, 2023, 03:28:58 PM »
Challenge levels 1-10
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Challenge level 11-14
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Challenge levels 15-20
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1-20 levels to play oder to order. :thumbsup:

5 Challenge levels is remain yet. Levels 21, 23, 25, 27 & 29 (im not even attempt all thoses yet.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #96 on: August 29, 2023, 09:24:44 AM »
3 Challenge levels are remain yet. 23, 27 & 29

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #97 on: August 29, 2023, 11:41:00 AM »
Level 27 Challenge Hells Kitchen completed (its take quite long 3 hours around) Even with this board is very familiar for me.

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Very close to beat challenge mode. 23 & 29 are remains anymore. Okay i think i have to test orginal oh no more version level 29 first, before i start work Crane solution. IIRC this was quite hard level Oh No More Lemmings too. One harder in game.

Level 23 Stuck me so much and not have even  theory ideas completed this rightnow, maybe i figured it later. maybe not. So i cannot post perfect youtube playlist yet.

How ever there is 27 & 30 Replays.


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Totally burnouted Challenge 23.
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Some awesome finds. Chaos 21 Think Fast (Finally complted)

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Levels 27 & 28
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Hell Yeah Chaos 21 Think Fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykNs7Sl1Ldk&t=19s&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

HMMM: Its might time to test Chaos 28 again. :laugh: I have some more experience than few month ago. But yeah i want to beat Challenge mode first. Only 2 levels remain 23 & 29. How ever im not are test level 29 yet, but i am hear its tough level.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #98 on: August 31, 2023, 10:35:56 PM »
HOLY GOD. I FINALLY DID IT. COMPLETED "HARDEST" LEVEL ENTIRE CRANE PACK. :thumbsup:

Chaos 28 Denial. 1:04 version. Backroutes are closed. Only way is intention

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Here is Denial youtube solution. You might want solved it yourself. So don´t watch if you don´t are played that level yourself. I´ll say all this work was worth it.
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Here is also full list Step 2 Curious 1-30 Levels in youtube.
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Let post Denial Zip file too

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I still have a lot 1:04 version Chaos levels remains. I am completed othermodes. How ever 1 level are remain Challange mode yet.

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Thats Chaos 28 Denial was still little bit backroute. At least i am keep working on that level. 1:01 version solution take 12 hours and 1:04 version solution much longer. Let see did Crane fix this 1:05 version, but i think iam personally done with this level.

Spending total 30 game hours and several months 3 minutes level is so massive amount time. :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #99 on: September 01, 2023, 07:50:18 PM »
For now I'll keep your solution to Denial as an acceptable alternative because of the timing required.  As you said yourself, it's more complicated than my intended solution.  Well done on finally completing it and it being such a milestone for you!  I guess it really stands up as being the hardest level in Lemmings Cranium!

As mentioned elsewhere, some of the earlier levels are designed to introduce new tricks that you must then apply later on with little prompt.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #100 on: September 01, 2023, 08:14:54 PM »
So much thanks Crane. I´ll very thankfully. This solution was my masterwork ever. Its take me tons time, tests and its still was so hard. I have to make everythings perfect.

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Denial is my best Neolemmings works ever. I never are played harder level myself. This level was technically all my human limit. Its take so much frustratings, brainstorms. I´ll still loved this level. Its just Test your skill did you are Master. :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #101 on: September 02, 2023, 12:11:48 AM »
*nudge-nudge* Nominate "Denial" for "Level of the Year" when the time comes?!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #102 on: September 02, 2023, 07:17:52 AM »
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*nudge-nudge* Nominate "Denial" for "Level of the Year" when the time comes?!

I´ll vote Denial level of the years. Its one most balances levesl which seperate expert players to master players. Its requires as well math and visual inteligence and perfect lemmings experience. I´ll personally call that "Mensa" level. Also awesome music choice make this level pleasant to play. How ever i personally little bit got bored that music when i listen it hours in row. :D that still one your best music choices levels like Denial.

I personally cannot called myself lemmings master players category until i beat this level. So i want make all my powers to focus all my energy with this level and solved it.

Crane pack is also my one personal favorite. Its test nearly everythings. How ever its not very noob friendly pack IMO. Even Cute mode could be quite brutal at end.

BTW I´ll also vote this "Pack of the years" :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #103 on: September 03, 2023, 07:30:48 PM »
Once you finish all of the Chaos levels (am I right in thinking that Curious and Cunning are now complete?), I'll release 1.05.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2023, 01:16:15 PM »
Yes Cute, Curious, Cunnings all complted 1:04 version. 1 Single level remain in Challenge (that is level 29) I just watch it little bit but, because it seems its will some long work level. So I´ll back it when i am more focus mode myself.

Let start look some Chaos level again. (1:01 beat many, but many new are patched) Have to check out which 1:01 replays will play 1:04 versions too.

Here will be 2 new levels. This level 7 i never are played before. Level 4 is new route. You patched my old one.

Chaos 7 Don´t bother (this is my first completion solution) im not played that 1:01 version already
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I already show replays 1:04 version Chaos levels: 17, 19, 21, 24 & though 28.


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Chaos 11 Stone Crestbay (backroute again)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #105 on: September 05, 2023, 05:49:21 PM »
BTW i think i figured out your Chaos 4 Containment intention route. Is it this?

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BTW All my 3 previous Chaos levels solution 1:04 was more or less backroutes. Okay i think figured out intention Chaos 4.

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Chaos 20 Hell´S Challenger (1:04 version)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #106 on: September 06, 2023, 02:19:36 AM »
Yes, that's the intended solution of Containment - well done.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #107 on: September 07, 2023, 03:09:01 AM »
Huh we are working Crane 1:05 version a lot a today.

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How ever one my Longest progress finally done

Chaos 3. Incompressible. I was just going to sleep when my brain runs overdrive. I just simply figured out it when i trying to rest.

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Chaos 3 solution. I think its intented. Its have to be.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #108 on: September 07, 2023, 04:55:50 AM »
That is intended for Chaos 3 - well done, you finally got it!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #109 on: September 07, 2023, 03:23:42 PM »
We got yesterday done Crane Level Chaos 17 Divisive action. Its only take me 6 modify 1:05  prototype boards when we patch all backroutes and let only intention remain. Its will be pretty backroute free in 1:05 version. 8-)

Here we go again. Totally new level for me (never played before)
Chaos 29 Christmas Spirit (completion solution only) not contains talisman.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #110 on: September 07, 2023, 10:03:44 PM »
Chaos 27 Dodge This completion solution

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Yeah that Chaos 27 was backroute. I´ll wait see your fixed solution. You can just send me fixed solution with PM. I´ll try solved it.

Chaos 15 Dropship 12

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Chaos 16 High Rise Hijinks

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2023, 04:39:05 AM »
As I mentioned elsewhere, Chaos 27 is a backroute and completely unexpected, but has hopefully been fixed now.  Chaos 15 was also a backroute which is easy enough to patch.

Chaos 16 was intended though - well done!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2023, 01:15:57 PM »
Chaos 27 Dodge This! solution B (Played 1.05 prototype version) Replay workded 1:04 version too. 1:05 prototype version are patch this "updraf bug" So we cannot use it anymore.

This is backroute for sure too. I still spend 5 hours with this. I just tried figured Crane intention route, but my best got 48 saved, and i really did my best. I think its might some close intention idea more than my completion solution.

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Okay Crane I´ll wait your new patch solution. Just PM me and answer my question about 48 saved solution. I´ll want find your intention way. But i think i first break your level. :D
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #113 on: September 08, 2023, 11:49:59 PM »
Most of the levels seem to be patched now, or at least you haven't broken them any further!  You've definitely been busy, that's for sure!

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« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2023, 08:35:40 AM »
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Most of the levels seem to be patched now, or at least you haven't broken them any further!  You've definitely been busy, that's for sure!

No problem. I´ll want work that your pack perfect as i can. This your pack is like my own child. I loved it but i´ll chastise it. This is quite fun too. I got personally few laughs when we prgresss Divisive Action and you have to patch this level over 6 times and i have to solved it too. Total hours we spend was 8 hours. Divisive Action are always my one favorite level your pack. I am glad we finally got perfect level 1.05 version.

Your 1.05 version will be brutal. I´ll load it myself when you are done. I have to some test your level yet. We are pretty done about rough backroutes. That work what we do Divisive action was fun and requirs some sarcasm.. Its definitely backroute free right now. IIRC We spend this levle 8 hours+
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #115 on: September 13, 2023, 12:13:41 PM »
Is that finally your intention solution Chaos 27 Dodge this!. Okay i work that 6 more hours today.

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At this point that my perfect. Or is this 3rd alternate backroute solution? This might be hilarious if i figured out 3rd backroutes in this level. ;P


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Okay only 2 levels remain orginal Chaos version
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Though a lot your fixed levels are remain.

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EDIT********************************:
Other 2 prototype level 1:05 Proto
Chaos 12 Chilly dispostion 1:05 proto v3 completion
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Chaos 15 Dropship 12 1:05 Proto version

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EDIT 2*************************
Chaos 10 Wrong Side Failure (1.04 completion route) Not contain talisman, so i think its not intented. I´ll attempt that talisman bit later.

EDIT: 3*********************************
Chaos 10 Wrong Side Failure (talisman completed)
Youtube video contains both way differents solutions. 2nd one contains talisman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciPpdXzJSX0

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EDIT: 4***********************
Chaos 18 Splashdown
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2023, 03:52:10 AM »
Hopefully Chaos 15 and 18 are fixed now.  I recall that small wall I removed being necessary for a backroute patching in the past, but I can't remember what it was for - hopefully nothing major. We're so close to 1.05 being ready.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2023, 09:34:50 PM »
I think Chaos 15 is totally fixed i cannot solved it anymore. That previous proto version was tough ones, this newest is burn out. :devil:

Okay we are figured out a lot backroutes Chaos 18 Splashdown. Have to fix it a lot.

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Chaos 12 Chilly disposition is ready. Okay this level also take some several times patch alls. My completion solution was little bit different than Crane, but accetable.  Chaos 27 Dodge It was intention last time. That was very frustrating level for me. Take me total 12 hours and got find two backroutes. Both will patched 1.05 version

Chaos 10 Wrong Side-Failure

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BTW here is my new completion. I think its intention. There is not really other choices
Chaos 2 Polar Pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGUUyYj9knY

EDIT***********************
Chaos 9 Overflow (1.04 version completion solution) Two my backroute was fixed already 1.01 version. Not sure is this ideal? But that way i got pass it with this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZ33cmMzrU

Only few 1.04 version Chaos levels are remains yet I count 5 levels.

Chaos 1, 6, 13, 14 & 25 We still make hard progress 1.05 version. Its will be some very brutal compared 1.04 version. :devil:

EDIT 2***************************************
Chaos 1 SUNSOFT Swindle (1.04 version completion solution)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9hnHNJbx_U

BTW
Total 4 Level remain in Chaos & 1 level remain challenge mode. 145/150 levels are completed 1.04 version.
Challenge 29 (yes im not are put effort wiht this level) I just are helping improve Crane pack and mostly Chaos levels.
Chaos 6, 13, 14 & 25

I am nearly testing everythings and yeah this all are taking so much time, but luckily i have good amount waste time.:) I´ll glad to help improve Crane pack. I think we both are pretty tired and frustratings at this point. Backroutes here and there. :P Have to make better and plan better.

I´ll hope i am good test player. I´ll do my best. :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #118 on: September 15, 2023, 08:44:13 PM »
We finally got perfect Chaos 18 Splashdown done. Thats tired we both. Crane fix and solved. IIRC that 7-8 prototype version which forced me use intention route. We also make it little bit harder/sharper. I think i´ll make some youtube video collections all denied routes later when 1.05 are released. Many denied routes was also genius and learn a lot with lemmings. Its like Chaos 17 Divisive Action. Its also take a lot work patch all.

BTW my Chaos 1 SUNSOFT Swindle and Polar Pass both was backroutes. With this time i not have even any good clues about intentions those solutions How ever:

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Also Chaos 9 Oveflow was backroute. (that not my personal favorite level, i´ll look it later though. At this time we hardly work Chaos 22 Hallowed Ground. This like new Splashdown and Divisive Action. So many alternate ways and very hard find intented.

Thats my real full time job are Crane test player. I am learn a lot with lemmings travel with this.  8-)

EDIT******************************
Chaos 6 Mind the Gap (1.04 version completion solution (not contains talisman) and its might backroute. Im not know Crane intention idea here. My 1.01 version route was closed, so i goes little bit different with this time, but quite similar main idea used.. 1.01 starting replay working well here. But end part goes different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-eaYZGqDo


EDIT 2***********************
Chaos 14 There is one small problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-IVh6s6d9s

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BTW**********************
Only 2 Level are remain Chaos mode 1.04 version (3 levels remain total 1.04 version) 147/150 levels completed)
13 Cliffside Hostel (only level i never are beat even 1.01 version). This level is heck nightmare. Only good thing its quite shorth.
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25 Immortal (new board is completely different. Im not are give any shot new version level yet, might go for it soon.


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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #119 on: September 16, 2023, 05:49:06 AM »
There isn't room for your genius trick on SUNSOFT Swindle in the pack unfortunately, unless another level gets completely broken and has to be replaced.  But I am saving the idea for something in the future maybe.

Still patching other levels though.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #120 on: September 16, 2023, 08:00:17 AM »
JES JES Finally my another masterwork are done. Chaos 13 Cliffside Hostel (Please Crane if this not your intention, please don´t patch it) This is way too genius. I think i´ll list this your pack TOP 3 hardest level at this point.

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BTW Look my fucking timings. This solution was so freaking mad. I am so happy. As happy as when i got beat Denial.

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Chaos 13 Cliffside Hostel completion solution. I´ll hope its intented or its wil l stay alternate solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KWbwo-CVEg

Im not want touch that level anymore. But this completion make me super happy. I was close to freaking out when i complted it.  :lem-shocked:

EDIT:***************
My Cliffside Hostel solution will stay 1.05 version. I just see Crane intention solution, its completely very different, but technically very genius one too. Hard to say which are harder one, but both are way different solutions. Though both used all tools and a lot tricks.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #121 on: September 16, 2023, 11:17:46 AM »
Sadge we cannot fix Chaos 22 hallowed grounds., Yeah its techincally impossible, because there is no theory way make it and block backroutes. Let see which is Crane plan/visions here??

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Divisive Action & Splashdown will be some really brutal next time. Also Dropship 12. I´ll give up Crane latest proto Dropship 12. That was simply too hard for me.. But yeah that take also some several protos to fix correct.

We are worked Crane levels to hard. And luckily most are fixable, even its sometimes took a lot work and frustratings.

I loved that job are Crane testplayer. Crane pack is always are my personal favorite.

Be right back. Crane will give more informations later. We are quite close 1:05. ;)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #122 on: September 16, 2023, 03:51:10 PM »
Oh yeah, spoilers above!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #123 on: September 16, 2023, 05:21:01 PM »
Damn sorry Crane. I forget some spoiler tags. My bad.  :-[ But how ever im not revela those new levels.

I´ll use spoiler tags when i think i need those. I think that was my fault too. Luckily its could be fixed. But im not revela too much. Yes i´ll fix my post. Sorry Crane.

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What you ask me hiiden there under spoiler tags? Just i think im not revela too much. At least 1.05 version will be secret.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #124 on: September 16, 2023, 05:34:22 PM »
Dman i am fucking drunk right now. I think i have to erased some?

Did this Ok im post your completion solutions in yotube. (I´ll also make its less spoil as i can) Used minimal reveal picture.

This look i am used spoiler tags, What heck i am forget under spoiler tags?
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #125 on: September 16, 2023, 05:46:59 PM »
BTW Crane. This is yout topic you can erased all my unwanted post here. Its not matter much. Im not even know what i did wrong? but its might culture difference. I am sorry about this. Np other words. As far as i thin youtube videos is also okay? Righht? What to heck i do wrong? Tell me?

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #126 on: September 17, 2023, 02:58:07 PM »
You've done nothing wrong - relax!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #127 on: September 18, 2023, 04:39:20 AM »
No problem.

Here is final 1.04 version Chaos level completed.
Level 25 Immortal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGlKjZbhWR8

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1.04 version is now completed succesfully. All 30 Chaos levels. Okay Challenge 29 is remain yet. And im not are run through all cute mode replays 1.04 version. Though play all those through 1.01 version.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #128 on: September 19, 2023, 10:01:29 AM »
So a couple of Chaos levels are currently broken and I'm trying to think how to patch or redesign them.  It's a little frustrating, but that's the nature of things sometimes.

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« Reply #129 on: September 19, 2023, 11:40:57 AM »
Quote
So a couple of Chaos levels are currently broken and I'm trying to think how to patch or redesign them.  It's a little frustrating, but that's the nature of things sometimes.

Is there several levels broken?

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #130 on: September 21, 2023, 05:36:02 PM »
We hardly work Crane pack. Good news one broken level is now perfectly fixed, even its take a tons time and have to test different tool sets. Finally got done perfect level which make Crane happy.

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When 1.05 is ready. Its will be extremely good/strong version. Even its take that what its take. Just a lot frustrations and time. I´ll hope im not make Crane too mad. Its my testplayer job. Im not are good guy. I am ruthless asshole who break levels all times.

My intention is still good. If im not figured out those backroutes, someone else will be figured out then later. I´ll make sure, 1.05 version will be really strong and very hardly improve.

Current backroutes/possible backroutes we have to solved:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #131 on: September 29, 2023, 08:11:38 PM »
Good Job Crane. We finally Patched your pack perfectly. Its still little risk some backroutes will still stay. At least in Chaos mode, this risk is very minimal anymore. At least we fix all major backroutes. So i´ll glad with this.

We wait 1.05 version and this update will be huge. I am glad im help Crane make his own pack most extreme. We spend over 60 hours to Chaos mode patch some levels.

I´ll more focus my own pack, thanks god im not have those themes like Crane, so i´ll usually allow more backroutes myself. Backroutes always piss me off too. I´ll only can imagine Crane feeling when i broke his level like mad. :devil:

I´ll hope this was worth it. Crane pack is one most awesome entire site. I´ll also like Crane Style. Most levels are old school style and i´ll personally liked this style. I´ll usually use Clear Physic mode play levels, so im not enjoy special grapich or ETC.... Expect replays. Its only way solved Extrme levels.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #132 on: September 30, 2023, 05:28:21 AM »
Thank you so much for the help MASTER-88, and I'm glad I inspired you!  Version 1.05 has been released!  Find the updated links and downloads on the first post (the music ZIP has had some missing files added - let me know if I forgot any).

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« Reply #133 on: September 30, 2023, 08:37:15 AM »
Thank you so much for the help MASTER-88, and I'm glad I inspired you!  Version 1.05 has been released!  Find the updated links and downloads on the first post (the music ZIP has had some missing files added - let me know if I forgot any).

Nice job. I loaded your new version. That progress we did was insane. I´ll happy we did it, even its tired and frustrated we both.

I think i did use my all own lemmings skills your pack. How ever backroute risk is still possible. At least i not have ideas anymore about Chaos modes. I´ll glad you got your pack just that awesome. Good work.

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I see you did little typo your fix list

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Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
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https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
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Offline Crane

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #134 on: September 30, 2023, 03:47:48 PM »
Oh whoops, yes that time limit reduction applies to Stonecrest Bay.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #135 on: January 05, 2024, 09:50:19 AM »
Hi Crane,

I've solved all of the pack. Replays attached and of course feedback :) Crane already knows, but I did an LP of the pack.

LP Link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJsO6bPXihuqAXaQgDr-FtW9. Enjoy! :P

General Feedback

Lemmings Cranium is a level pack by Crane. It consisted mostly of his contest levels and really old levels from the Dos/Lemmix days which I helped convert to up-to-date NL, with some that are completely new and made exclusively for the pack. Although Crane has been a long-time member of the Lemmings Forums and has been in the level making scene for a really long time, until this pack's release, he has never released a full level pack of his own. Now that Lemmings Cranium is out, he finally has, when it was released sometime last year (2023). Before that, he released Lemmings Cranium Preview, which is a teaser of sorts of his upcoming Lemmings Cranium pack which is only one full rank of 30 levels, the Challenge rank, which is the 4th of 5 ranks in the eventual release of the actual pack. I'm very happy that I could be of service to help bring his really old levels up-to-date to modern NL, as well as hunt down old levels of his that he doesn't have anymore and same thing with certain music tracks that you can hear in this pack. I also had the honor of pre-testing some select levels of Crane's before the pack's release. Thus, I congratulate Crane on finally releasing a full level pack of his own many years after releasing several mini Dos level packs which you can find on the Lemmings Level Database. Note that not all of them eventually made it in this pack, but a lot of them are in here!

Lemmings Level Database link to Crane's Dos packs: http://lemmings-db.camanis.net/levelpack/list?sort=name&filter=garjen

Cute Rank Feedback

The first rank of the pack, it consists mostly of X-of-everythings and a few easy puzzles. The end of the rank does get challenging, but they're still quite tame compared to levels in the later ranks. Much like what L1 does, several of the levels in the rank are easier versions whose repeats will be seen in the later ranks. I guess due to lack of levels Crane made the personal decision to take several of his hard levels and make easier versions of them by providing an X-of-everything skillset, very similar to what RotL does.

Feedback on a Few Levels (click to show/hide)

Curious Rank Feedback

Being the second rank of the pack, the levels here are a tad bit harder than the ones in the previous rank. The levels here are mostly limited skillset ones with one solution, though there are still some with multiple solutions and X-of-everythings, just not as much as there were in the previous rank. Like the Cute rank, the end of Curious does get hard.

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Cunning Rank Feedback

Now the levels really start getting very hard in this rank. It was definitely slower going in my LP with this and the Chaos rank. Still a lot of great levels here and the point where I really started enjoying the pack!

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I've already played the Challenge rank when I did my LP of Lemmings Cranium Preview from almost 2 years ago, so if you want to read my feedback for that, you can do so here:

https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5851.msg96087#msg96087


Chaos Rank Feedback

The final rank of the pack, these are pretty much the hardest levels of the pack, with a few breathers here and there. It especially gets quite hard at the end! This culminates into Chaos 28, which seems to be the agreed upon hardest of the pack.

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Regarding what to swap Chaos 3 with, so far I can only think of Chaos 14, though that might be too far down the rank. Maybe Chaos 8 is another suitable swap candidate, as it might be somewhat easy as well. Chaos 3 definitely needs to move, though. You don't want players rage quitting that early in the rank, though the pack is certainly not for beginners!

With this, thank you so much for your pack Crane! :thumbsup: Aside from the few levels I raged on in which I blame my sleep deprivation on, I really did enjoy this pack, especially once I got into the Cunning and Chaos ranks. Some were a bit more frustrating than they needed to be when I couldn't figure them out during off-camera time, but most of it was self-inflicted precision and timing heavy solutions I brought onto myself. Though I've already learned most of these tricks I saw in the pack in other packs, I still nevertheless enjoyed seeing them applied in some of your levels.

Hope the feedback is helpful and don't hesitate to ask me for assistance should you require any. I'm here to help if it's needed! :)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #136 on: January 09, 2024, 09:14:02 PM »
Thank you for your feedback kaywhyn.  Your playthrough has been incredibly insightful and I'm glad you enjoyed playing it.  I made some changes and rearrangements and now version 1.06 has been released (see first post for the download link).

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #137 on: February 07, 2024, 06:23:48 AM »
Okay, version 1.06 contained a critical bug in that Cunning 17 was impossible to complete (at least intentionally) because I was experimenting with something that somehow did not get reverted.  So 1.07 has now been released (see first post), a bit earlier than I had hoped, but it also allowed me to insert the correct version of Curious 17 as well (it was meant to have a backroute patched in 1.06, but had uploaded the unpatched version).

EVERYONE I recommend you download 1.07 as soon as possible because of the glitched Cunning 17 in 1.06