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Okay let see how i can post that. So I´ll post In Development site first and look did this post it correctly.

If everythings went right. This contains 120 levels 30 levels per each step. Its like similar as my previous pack.
Step 1: Simple Cakewalk
Step 2: Easy Roadtrip
Step 3: Tricky Boardwalk
Step 4: Suffering Hellroad

Otherwise this pack played well my neolemmix and i beat all levels and take all replays up. Its also seems those levels played order to 1-30 and etc...

I´ll test that first.

Okay its seems this zip post it fine enought and levels are rightorders.

UPDATE IMPORTANT START 19.4.22.****************************
Pack is fixed and everythings match new Neolemmix version. No impossible levels anymore. Also broken level is changed. So here is new Step 4 level 29 and new Step 3 Level 7. Mostly i just fix gliders levels. Most those was impossible with new neolemmix version.

UPDATE IMPORTANT END*******************************



UPDATE IMPORTANT START 18.4.22.************************************
My Pack is maded older neolemmix version. Its look Shimmiers bug jump into exit is fixed later versions so at least Step 1 Simple Cakewalk level 11 En Garde Lemmings is impossible level to beat with new neolemmix versions of the game. I´ll later Update this level where it is possible with new versions players too. Thanks with report this bug.

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Sorry Master-88 The Shimmiers don't in 12.12.4. I even watched your replay and the shimmiers don't jump into the exit. They end up dying in the trap to the right.
 
That level needs a fix.


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That's a bug and was fixed ;): https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5492
And I'd recommend keeping solutions replays of your pack in the latest NL so you have proof they're solvable and nobody waste time on a impossible level.

IIRC That was only level which use that trick. Luckily peoples raport with this.

Im not know is there other fixed bugs in later version. Then just Raport it with me. I´ll fix those levels and repost my pack again. So we will keep this pack in Development site until my final update versions are maded.


UPDATE IMPORTANT 18.4.22 END**********************


UPDATE IMPORTANT 2 START******************
Okay i recommend you stop play that my pack if you have new neolemmix version. This is maded old version and so many version differnces make this pack impossible. Biggest one are Gliders and this make a lot impossible levels at this point.

I´ll fix those all match new neolemmix version. Its will take few days i guess. I´ll repost my levels again when those are fixed match new Neolemmix version.:P
« Last Edit: April 19, 2022, 10:29:06 AM by MASTER-88 »
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Called that Master-88 Plus 2 Pack
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2022, 02:39:22 PM »
I have tried the first 10 levels from the Suffering Hellroad rank , and here are the replays of my solutions.

Very nice levels again! My favourites of these are Suffering Hellroad 2 , 4 , 5 , and 7.
From these levels , the level that was the most difficult for me , was Suffering Hellroad 6 , due to it's strict time limit.
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Called that Master-88 Plus 2 Pack
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2022, 04:21:32 PM »
Thanks Turrican. And Hell awesome replays again. Its also cool to see how you solved every levels way different way than i personally used myself

Level 1: Great strategy. Very different than my own one. Nice job
Level 2: Great strategy here and a lot faster than my own one. That time limit give me some serious trouble myself. See you solved it much easier and much faster. Really nice cloner job.
Level 3: Main strategy was pretty same as my one. I did very few things bit different way than you did.
Level 4: Awesome new strategy. My own one was very different, but its nearly as fast as your one. Great see new way beat this
Level 5: Great way. I think my own strategy is way more simple to executed. Main idea is pretty much same
Level 6: Also bit different than my own way. Great job.
Level 7: This level is nearly same way as my as my. IIRC i did very few things little bit different about buildings.
Level 8: Nice strategy used here. Also little bit different than my own. I think this your way was easier than my own.
Level 9. That was my personal favorite looking level. You did beat this level never use more than 4 per each skills. That your part at end was absolutely great looking. I think i never was figured that myself. Nice job with those stackers.
Level 10. Yeah this level use always that same main idea. Congrats your speed here. That was very quick one.

Cannot wait see more your replays.:)
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Called that Master-88 Plus 2 Pack
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2022, 08:33:27 PM »
Also here is his 2nd pack to be played correctly in the latest neolemmix player as it wasn't packed correctly.

just install it to the levels folder.
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Called that Master-88 Plus 2 Pack
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2022, 02:43:46 AM »
Ok, Here are my replays for the first rank (Simple Cakewalk), Except Level 11 which is impossible since shimmiers can't jump into the exit.
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Called that Master-88 Plus 2 Pack
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2022, 04:27:34 AM »
Ok, Here are my replays for the first rank (Simple Cakewalk), Except Level 11 which is impossible since shimmiers can't jump into the exit.

What????? 100% they can jump into exit. At least my Neolemmix version. I can show it.

You might try again or is it thing fixed later neolemmix update versions. I have old version.
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Called that Master-88 Plus 2 Pack
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2022, 04:40:50 AM »
Sorry Master-88 The Shimmiers don't in 12.12.4. I even watched your replay and the shimmiers don't jump into the exit. They end up dying in the trap to the right.
 
That level needs a fix.

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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Called that Master-88 Plus 2 Pack
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2022, 04:41:16 AM »
That's a bug and was fixed ;): https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5492
And I'd recommend keeping solutions replays of your pack in the latest NL so you have proof they're solvable and nobody waste time on a impossible level.
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Called that Master-88 Plus 2 Pack
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2022, 04:48:21 AM »
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That's a bug and was fixed ;): https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5492
And I'd recommend keeping solutions replays of your pack in the latest NL so you have proof they're solvable and nobody waste time on a impossible level.

Okay thanks. I´ll fix that level later and put some more other skills, then its not are impossible with 12.12.4 version players anymore.

My all levels are maded old version, so if there is some other fixed bugs just please report it here.

My all levels are maded possible to beat with older neolemmix version.

EDIT:
Mainpage is updated too. Thanks Eric & Armani with report with this.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2022, 05:19:08 AM by MASTER-88 »
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Okay i finally load new neolemmix with my computer. I´ll play every levels replays through and i´ll look those bugs and i´ll fix levels. Level 11 Step 1 Simple ckaewalk En garde lemmings is fixed.

I´ll look otherones next. Its might take little bit time when i go look all my 120 replays.

I´ll be back.;)

EDIT:
Step 1 i watched through. Every levels play. Level 11 is fixed and new strategy will work here too. Lets go check out Step 2 next.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2022, 12:50:48 PM by MASTER-88 »
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Step 2 Level 6: Pillar Scenario is impossible level too with new neolemmix version. That glider bug is changed and thats mean i have to fix that level and also other Pillar Scenario series levels. My Pack includes 4 different pillar scenario levels. But Turrical solved last one with different way than i orginal make. So that not was impossible level with his route.

EDIT:
Several levels Step 2 levels have to be editetd. This new glider Mechanism is just very different than old one.
LEvel 6, 12 & 14 are at leasst impossible levels with this reason only.

That piss me off guys. Why hell you are changed that game Mechansim a lot like this.:devil:

EDIT 2:
At this point i´ll recommend you stop play my levels. Nearly all Glider levels have to be fixed. This is 2-3 pixel different glider mechanism than older version and many levels use gliders. So i pick up many impossible levels Step 2 mode. I´ll fix them

A lot impossible levels with this reason.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2022, 02:15:11 PM by MASTER-88 »
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Good news here is. Last difficult Step 4 Suffering hellroad was pretty working. Only few things. Last level glider thing have to fix, but that was only one. Level 29 have to be build whole level again, because that was the Beast level and new editor not show that level. Its just bugged whole level. I also lost my Kayleigh theme in last level. This thing have to fix too.

Step 1 & 2 are both making working rightnow. Step 4 working expect i have to make another 29 level and fix those music things.

Next i´ll check out Step 3 Tricky boardwalk. IIRC this difficulty contains a lot glider levels, so i guess i have to fix a lot like Step 2 levels.

Be right back.:)



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Okay no impossible levels anymore. I have to make some major changes with glider things here and there. I make some very radical reform with few levels. For example Step 3 level 10 Midnight Adventure use very different completion strategy rightnow.

Step 3 level 17 temple of winds actually working using new completion strategy, old one not work anymore. Im not even make any change with this level, but my older strategy not work anymore, because those gliders flies are different, so this level will be use different strategy which is also completion harder one than my previous one.

Okay there is two levels. I think Step 3 level 7 is nearly identical like Step 4 level 17. I think i´ll build whole new level.

Also Step 4 level 29 have to be build over again. New neolemmix editor bug that whole level and its cannot be played with this system. So its only work old Neolemmix editor. So i´ll make totally new level.

I think i´ll build two totally new levels and have to fix those music things in last level. I really want Kayleigh theme music here.

I"be post all zips and whole pack over again when i am done all changes and all my replays are updated.

That was hard job, but i think my pack goes even little bit better rightnow.:)



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Okay all 120 levels are done again. With this time all levels replay are played with 12.12.4 Version and all replays work and no impossible levels anymore.

I have to load this new editor yet. I have to check out few music things and probably look some other ones.

I still find some very weird bugs which randomly happen. One Zombie lemming bug was weird like hell. Its not take contact hit with Zombie and not look make lemming infected, but its still kill your lemmings and that Zombie noise happen. I absolutely not know what hell is that bug? How ever its not always happen and i got make my replay done succesfully. That bug i hell not know what it is???

New update pack change 2 levels. Step 3 level 7 is totally new level. Also Step 4 level 29 is new level., because its bugged my orginal ones.

Otherwise i just mostly fix gliders, because those flying track is different.

I did my orginal pack using V.12.8.2 Version. I think its pretty old one. How ever nearly everythings expect gliders work quite similar.
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Okay its finally done.
I´ll post new zipfiles later. I´ll once check out all replays. All replays are green marked now and its mean all levels are completed succesfully using new neolemmix version. So there is not impossible levels anymore.

Also got find that Kayleigh theme. Its seems everythings working rightnow. I have new Neolemmix player and new neolemmix editor.

Fuck this all take me over 10 hours.

Be right back. But i think i have to sleep little bit.
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Here're my replays for Suffering Hellroad rank!
There are many nice and brilliant levels! I enjoyed it a lot :thumbsup:
It looks like you checked all the replays manually one by one to see if there's any broken level. I think I can help you a bit here ;)


Something worth mentioning:

1) Mass replay check
It looks like you checked all the replays manually one by one. That would not be necessary had you known this function. In the level select menu, press the name of the pack you want to check and press mass replay check button. Then selcect any replay file in the corresponding replay forder and NL will check all the replays automatically. When it's done, the results are put into a text file and will be saved in NL folder. Then you can identify which levels are broken and need fixings.

2) Unique Level ID
You've made a lot of repeat levels, that's fine. But they all share the same level ID! For example, Pillar Scenario part1 ~ 4 all have same ID. I guess you made Pillar Scenario part1 and copied-pasted the level file and renamed them as part 2~4. (or you made part 2~4 by save as'ing the original part 1 level.) This could be problematic when you(or the players) run the mass replay check function becuase NL matches replays to levels by the IDs. When you make another pack in the future I would recommend that you keep every level has unique ID. You just have to press [Random ID] button in the editor when making repeat levels.

3) Pack Structure
As ericderkovits already mentioned, your pack isn't packed correctly. Create a levels.nxmi textfile in each rank folder and you can specify the order of the rank. If the rank forder doesn't have a levels.nxmi file, NL will run the levels in alphabetical order.(That's why you had to name all your levels Level 01, Level 02, ... Level 30 at the start.) It may sounds complicated but it really isn't. You can use level packs from other author as a blueprint on how they are structured and you can adjust them to your packs.
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Okay new link is done. This is fixed version. No goal bugs and no impossible levels.

This pack is mostly fixed levels Step 2 & 3. Most levels in step 4 working with old version too. Step 1 levels only level 11 is fixed, that goal bug is fixed here. No needs use jumps anymore.

Broken levels is changed. New Step 4 level 29 level is name Hellgard part two and this is really tough level. Also Step 3 level 7 is whole new level and level 10 is radical reformed, but its same board with very different skills. Otherwise i just mostly fix glider things here and there.

I´ll post that fixed link in mainpage and take old one out.

I´ll also add new link with this post.

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Here're my replays for Suffering Hellroad rank!
There are many nice and brilliant levels! I enjoyed it a lot :thumbsup:
It looks like you checked all the replays manually one by one to see if there's any broken level. I think I can help you a bit here


Thanks Armani i´ll watch your replays later.:) and give you my comments. Go load this new version too. :) That Step 4 levels mostly working very well with both lemmix versions, because there not was that much glider things. Mostly Steps 2 & 3 includes a lot impossible levels. But loading new version you will open two more new levels and at this time everythings could be completed.

Thanks. I am sorry when i have post that all twice. I didn´t know those version differences and fixed bugs.

BTW
I actually test that massreplay, but that was horrible bad. My replays are just very shit orders in my files. So i did check out all my replays one by one and everythings working rightnow. So we not have any impossible levels.

Be rightback.  If you want beat all levels just load new version. Its added in mainpage too.
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Pack is Fixed & Done UPDATE 19.4.22
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2022, 12:45:03 PM »
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Here're my replays for Suffering Hellroad rank!
There are many nice and brilliant levels! I enjoyed it a lot :thumbsup:

Finally watch your replays. Expect level 1 & 29 is failed. This level 29 somereason not work on new neolemmix versions so this level is changed, its totally bugged that level when you attempt play it, so update version have totally new level 29. Level 1 replay was failed with some reasons. I did little bit modified with this level, because glider things not allow my orginal strategy work here.

Otherones was awesome and nearly everylevels was completed way different than my own completions solutions and also way different than Turrican solutions. Thats fun how many different way here is beat those button smash levels. My own ways is very different. My personal favorite was definitely Level 25 Ice Burner. Thats your way was simply awesome. Liked that your huge shortcut here.:)  Also liked your way solved level 18 Dungeon of flames. My own record was 76 saved and you did save 78. (74 is required completed this). This is pretty complicated level and one which take me a lot work to make.

Great route level 26 Demon Core. I just always think my route is only way beat this level. Your way working very well too.

And level 21 The Dropping Techinique part two was also really awesome. Its very different than my own completion way.

Thanks your videos. I really loved watch your replays. New version not really matter much Step 1 & Step 4 modes. Just Step 2 & 3 are mostly improvement, because those glider things make impossible with many levels Step 2 & 3 modes. Step 1 & 4 working pretty much as well older or new neolemmix versions. Its not matter much with those modes.

I´ll wait see more replays. Just load new version if you want go through two totally new levels and here is no impossible levels anymore. So every levels can be completed with update versions.

EDIT:
This topic could be moved Ready packs rightnow. Its not Development anymore.:)

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Offline MASTER-88

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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Pack is Fixed & Done UPDATE 19.4.22
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2022, 03:07:39 PM »
I have to mention one thing yet. Its not my game creater fault. I pick up one bug. Its Zombie hitbox level 29 Step 4 Suffering hell round and this new level name is Hellgard part 2. If you compress little bit wrong . Zombie will kill you lemmings, even its not infected you, but its still make sounds effect, but its happen when its close enought with you. This bug is completely possible avoid. Just compress better. This is not impossible level and make several completion. 

Im not really find anyreason why this happen. I guess its hitbox bug. I´ll recommend report it. Its just more annoying than hard. I spend 2-3 hours attempt test that and yeat its seems that happen when Zombie is floater and its are too close your lemmings.

I have correct replays with this level and i can avoid that bug easily, just keep enought distance with Zombie.

New Step 4 Level 29 Hellgard is super frustrating level to beat. I mean it is it, even without bug. Its forced you go back to back and sometimes you have to back whole level if you compress wrong. Its surely is beatable, i didi several completion. Not give up.

I´ll warning that level. Its super frustrating to beat. There is not clear strategy beat this level. I´ll give you a lot skills Blockers, Walkers, Shimmiers and thats all you have to compress all. Also Locked Realeaserate make it mad.

I beat this level 3 times, so its not impossible, but its freaking frustrating and if this fucking bug happen, its make it even more frustrating.

EDIT:
If you want try bea this level through. I´ll put single link. I warning this level is fucking freaking hard. Just trey it. Definitely its not impossible
« Last Edit: April 19, 2022, 03:17:01 PM by MASTER-88 »
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Pack is Fixed & Done UPDATE 19.4.22
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2022, 02:05:58 AM »
I made a VERY quick logo screen for this pack. It's here if anyone else wants it.
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Re: New Neolemmix Pack (120 levels) Pack is Fixed & Done UPDATE 19.4.22
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2022, 10:30:58 AM »
I made a VERY quick logo screen for this pack. It's here if anyone else wants it.

Thanks very great logo. Its work well my zips. Did i have to post all my Zips again and with this logo?

Okay i´ll add this and post this ready pack. Thanks a lot.:)

I started make 3rd pack demo levels in week. My 3rd pack might be ready probably end of this year. Depend my insiprations.

EDIT:
Added my Pack in mainpage and also logo is added. Thanks a lot.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2022, 10:38:06 AM by MASTER-88 »
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