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Revenge of the Lemmings 2022
« on: March 20, 2022, 02:34:24 AM »
REVENGE OF THE LEMMINGS UPDATE MARCH 2022

DOWNLOADS:

levelpack : https://www.mediafire.com/file/gp5qb3deh0ui5su/Revenge+Of+The+Lemmings2022v3.zip/file
music : https://www.mediafire.com/file/o4ybtygvcxcp8xj/ROTL_music.zip/file
solutions : https://www.mediafire.com/file/oywb2mdqlvmythj/ROTL_replays.zip/file

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note:
Back in September; what began as an update that was going to focus on bringing the pack up to date with current NeoLemmix and fix just minor issues, turned into a very major overhaul of the entire pack. When I started looking through old levels from various sources I had saved from years ago I realized how much good material existed that deserved to be in the pack. This version of the pack is much more balanced and showcases even more content creators from the past. In the end I think this will turn out to be the best version of the pack yet. Huge praise and thanks to everyone who helped make it possible! I hope you enjoy it! And may it bring many hours of loss of sanity, hair and sleep!
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since 2006 (the early days of the custom level scene) there were plans to make a community made L1 sequel game.
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=548.msg19540#msg19540
There have been a few attempts at this but one was finally finished in 2013;
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=1596.msg40791#msg40791
Since then a lot of people played the pack and gave feedback and it's underwent several major changes.

Finally; an update for Revenge of the Lemmings is here for NeoLemmix version 12.12.4 as of March 2022.

::::::::::::::CHANGEES from previous version:::::::::::::::

A number of levels have been altered to fix backroutes or physics changes in NL.
Some levels have been renamed.

Most levels by InsaneSteve, Clam, and Martin Zurlinden were removed. All of these levels [and more] can be found in up-to-date versions here;

MazuLems (by Martin Zurlinden)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4195.msg74977#msg74977

Clammings (by Clam (formerly Clam Spammer)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=3642.msg68484#msg68484

Insane Steve's World (by InsaneSteve aka Chaos Defrost)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4051.msg73545#msg73545

Any levels credited to them here were taken from the "Level Design Game" these levels are not present in the above packs.

Some levels were removed based on feedback or backroute/physics issues. A handful of levels from the first (Lemmini) version that had been removed from version 2 and 3 were brought back.

***Over 60 new levels have been added to the pack since the previous version.***

...making the grand total now 240 over 6 ranks.

Many of these levels have been altered from their original versions (found from various sources) to fix backroutes and other issues.

attached is a small sample of some of the levels added.

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The newest level in the pack is probably "Lemming Sold Separately" by grentiie20 uploaded to the archive in 2014.

The oldest level in the pack is probably "Someone must help us" by Matthias Witt; which was the "level of the month winner" in April of 2000 from this website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021224222043/http://vtm.hypermart.net/Pages/Lemm/Levels/Winners/Apr2000.htm

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Please note: I consider other versions of this pack to be outdated. I make no plans to update a Lemmini or any other version. Anyone else is welcome to do whatever they want with those versions; I am not in charge there. I also needed to remove copies of those versions from my mediafire account which is where they were hosted, so links to those elsewhere on this forum (if they still existed) have broke).

A little bit later I will release the pack of levels that didn't make it in or got removed from the pack for various reasons.

many thanks to all those who helped in a large way on this enormous project. These people are responsible for recommending levels, play testing, fixing levels and other help:

Akseli
Armani
Clam
crane
geoo
gigalem for logo and artwork
gronkling
IchoTolot
Flopsy
gronkling
namida
Proxima
Turrican
t3tesla
wafflem
Willlem

special thanks to Armani, Turrican and Willem for doing a huge amount of testing for this latest update.

The Readme file contains all the designers and people who helped put the pack together.

This is a humongous pack and I'm sure there are at least a few mistakes or issues I've missed. Let me know here or wherever if there are any problems.

*If anyone plans to do videos of this pack and has any copyright issues with the music used let me know, and I can potentially change it. I used tracks from quite a few different games and sources.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2022, 04:10:18 PM by mobius »
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Re: Revenge of the Lemmings 2022
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2022, 07:55:16 AM »
Congrats on finally releasing the New Formats version of RotL, mobius! :thumbsup: It might had taken a while, but you did it. I must thank you for putting together the Lemmini version all those years ago as well. I'm so close to finishing it, as I'm on the final level of it as of last year, but it's still not solved as I'm not certain what glitch it's supposed to use. Perhaps I'll take a look at it again sometime and see if I can figure it out. I know you have posted a hint(s) for it, but I haven't opened them, as I'm quite stubborn when it comes to solving levels on my own :P

In any case, this goes on my to-LP list. As a matter of fact, I"m thinking of closing off 2022 with this pack. That is, unless the community pack gets done before then, then maybe I'll do that one instead, but for now I'm almost certain I'll be finishing off the year with this as my final LP. So, still a while, but I'm sure I'll figure out a way to allocate the various LPs throughout the rest of 2022.

Thanks again for all your hard work in putting this gargantuan pack together, as well as everyone else who contributed to its making! :thumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: Revenge of the Lemmings 2022
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2022, 05:13:58 PM »
as promised here is the "outtakes" pack. These are most of the levels (232 no less) that were;

-removed from older versions of the pack. This does not include levels compiled elsewhere such as MazuLems Those can be found in the links in the first post.
-levels that were considered but not included.

The reasons for removal were many but mostly it was backroutes or the level not working as intended (or at all) due to physics changes, or player feedback. Note that a small number of old version levels are not present as they are not solvable and some may have been lost.

There are no ranks and the levels are in no particular order.
There won't be any music or replays supplied for this pack; I won't guarantee that all these are solvable (I can say I know that *most* of them are); this is not intended as a finished pack but more as 'extra goodies'.
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Re: Revenge of the Lemmings 2022
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2022, 12:53:01 AM »
Hi mobius,

Firstly, congratulations on the release and thank you for all the hard work in finding so many previously unknown levels and putting the whole pack together! It's a colossal achievement and you should be very proud of the result.

However, even after just playing through the first rank, I find I have to ask: where will the pack be going from here? If I have suggestions for levels that I feel should be moved, or removed altogether, will you consider making such changes for a version 4.1, or are you done with the pack now? I will certainly be going through the pack and giving feedback in any case, but I would have a different focus to my feedback depending on how such suggestions would be received.

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Re: Revenge of the Lemmings 2022
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2022, 05:22:54 PM »
I just made a minor update: I realized only after uploading that the level "Where do I dig next?" [devious] was essentially a recreation of "Hello John Got a New Lemming" [level from NES lemmings]. So I've swapped that with another level from the outtakes rank. --"Tougher Egyptian level" but changed the title.
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Re: Revenge of the Lemmings 2022
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2022, 04:12:45 PM »
made a tiny update: I screwed up the last update I did (when removing the "where do I dig next?" level; two levels had the same title; should be fixed now.

[link in first post]
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