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[NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3.4
« on: November 18, 2020, 05:58:59 PM »
Zemmings Complete Version 3: A complete collection of all my current Lemmings levels. Version 3 introduces 8 new levels featuring a new style: zanzindorf_cloud. Additionally, it included three new zanzindorf_agony themed levels and a special glitch themed level. It also includes a few back route fixes for previously released levels.

IMPORTANT - Version 3.4: See post below for change log. This version is bug fixes only, no new content.

IMPORTANT - Regarding the new style, check out it's development thread. When possible, make sure to download the cloud style, or any other style, through the NeoLemmix style manager.

IMPORTANT - Have a good day :)

Level Pack Contents:

Zemmings Volume 1: 8 Levels - zanzindorf_glacier
Zemmings Volume 2: 8 Levels - zanzindorf_kiwi
:lemming: New! :lemming: Zemmings Volume 3: 8 Levels - zanzindorf_cloud
Bonus: 2 Special Level Contest submissions (Kiwi Knight and Fish)
Amiga: 6 Levels using Gronklings Menacing and Beast styles
:lemming: New! :lemming: Amiga: 3 Levels using my own zanzindorf_agony style
:lemming: New! :lemming: Replays of all levels (See "Replay" folder).
:lemming: New! :lemming: One final bonus level: Modeye

3.4 Downloads:

Levels + Music: https://zanzindorf.com/downloads/Zemmings%20Complete%20V3.4%20(Basic).zip
Preview All Levels: https://zanzindorf.com/zemmings.html

Level Previews:



















Let's Plays:

kaywhyn V3.3 (+Some V3.4 Edits)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJsLa7oq6l5BVk_03WYpCwmT

IchoTolot  (Volumes I + II)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKR1N9oJTTlJntd-MSI_kvtth8PbC7UvW

ericderkovits (Volumes I + II Super Lemmini Version)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZZlEJhdyoAPnEv9Y5wj1CST4qkyi0m-q

Colorful Arty (Volume II)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew5lneDY6Is

Turrican Lemm (Rising Stream and Hug the Clouds)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EkJLuOLVCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9gviGd0YuY

(Message me if you'd like to be included on this list)
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 06:24:53 PM »
Multiple packs coming out this day. :thumbsup:

Looks very nice! :thumbsup:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2021, 09:59:25 PM »
Version 3 is up, featuring 8 new levels using a new tileset, and 3 new agony levels. For now, I'm releasing these as a "beta", in case early players find game-breaking issues which I'll need to fix. So if you find anything wacky, let me know. I'll post the final release in about a week. New Level previews:























See top post for downloads :thumbsup:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2021, 01:42:38 PM »
are you a graphic designer zanzidorf? you do create some stunning styles

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2021, 04:49:53 PM »
are you a graphic designer zanzidorf? you do create some stunning styles

Thank you :cute: I'm glad you like them.

I don't think I can call myself a graphic designer, I'm just a hobbyist artist and think stuff like this is really fun. Though, I studied game development and animation in college, and I've done a few paid commissions for pixel art. Maybe someday I'll turn this into a job :D

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2021, 04:12:31 PM »
I had a playthrough of volume 3 and have attached my replays. The cloud tileset looks incredible!

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My Level Packs: Quartet

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2021, 12:41:34 AM »
I had a playthrough of volume 3 and have attached my replays. The cloud tileset looks incredible!

Thanks for playing! Glad you like the new style :thumbsup:

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Thanks for the feedback! I will most likely upload an updated version of the levels to incorporate your feedback tomorrow. Though, I am still open to revisions if there's more bugs found :)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2021, 03:16:12 AM »
I play through the vol3 levels and I doubt any of them are intended :(

The cloud tileset looks so nice btw!
I'm sure I will use this tileset frequently when it is officially released. :thumbsup:
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2021, 06:17:07 PM »
I have now played through volumes 1 & 2 as well and have attached replays.

Volume 1
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Volume 2
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2021, 06:44:42 PM »
I play through the vol3 levels and I doubt any of them are intended :(

Thanks for playing! Lol you are correct :D (See spoilers).

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:laugh: Just now uploaded: Version 3.1 :D


The pack is still in beta, but here's a newer version that incorporates feedback from Apjjm and Armani (Which was super helpful :thumbsup:)

Changes: Fixed back routes on Volume III, organized the Replay folder a bit, and that's about it.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2021, 07:16:40 PM »
I have now played through volumes 1 & 2 as well and have attached replays.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3.3
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2022, 11:38:17 PM »
I have updated my solutions to V3 following the fixes, some thoughts:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3.3
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2022, 06:11:50 PM »

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Regarding Apjjm's Notes:
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With Apjjm and kaywhyn's feedback, there will likely be another updated version to fix some issues. However, I'm going to wait to update the downloads until after kaywhyn has finished their playthrough (Which can be viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJsLa7oq6l5BVk_03WYpCwmT).

However, if you want to see the updates I'm planning, attached is a WIP patch. It affects 5 levels. Here are the changes so far:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3.3
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2022, 05:10:25 PM »
Version 3.4 is uploaded. This version is bug fixes only. If you've downloaded and installed the patch in my previous post, you basically have version 3.4. There were no more additional changes.

Change log:

Backroute fixes:
1-5 The Story of One Pick Lemmy
2-2 Think Vertical Thoughts
3-3 Fort Nimbus
3-8 The Vood Mirror

All of these changes are very subtle, but close off various back routes. Thanks to Apjjm and kaywhyn for their feedback!

A note on kaywhyn's solution for the patched 2-2 in their LP:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Zemmings Complete V3.4
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2022, 10:31:31 PM »
Hi zanzindorf,

I have completed the pack, so I have attached my entire collection of replays. I generally am not too bothered about going back to resolve patched up levels once I'm done with a pack. However, since there were only two levels where my replays broke after showing off two of them in the outros, I went ahead and resolved 1.5 and 3.3 as well. Unfortunately, I think 3.3 is still a backroute :P

Also, for those who want the LP, zanzindorf was nice enough to link my LP in the OP, as well as in reply #12. Thus, I don't feel the need to link my LP in this post as well.

General Feedback

Zemmings Complete has 3 Volume packs, the third one featuring zanzindorf's new Cloud tileset, a Bonus rank of 3 levels with zanzindorf's other styles that hasn't been seen anywhere else, and an Amiga rank that consisted of 6 levels from his Special pack, which was originally for Superlemmini and were converted and ported to NL, as well as 3 new ones that essentially are replacements of 3 levels from the Superlemmini version that couldn't be converted to NL. These are Jill Jungle levels on Superlemmini, but the replacements in NL are all levels in the Agony tileset. I have previously played both Volume 1 and the Special pack on Superlemmini a very long time ago, but because I haven't touched them in a very long time, the LP might as well be a blind one :laugh:

This LP was one that I was very much looking forward to after I finished LPing Apjjm's Lemmings Quartet pack. Just like Apjjm's pack, zanzindorf also has very visually stunning level designs that are pleasing to look at with the eyes. I really like zanzindorf's styles and tilesets a lot! In particular, the Cloud tileset is really nice! As are the tilesets featured in the first two levels of the Bonus rank. For the second level, I think that's really cool how the entrance is the mouth of the dragon-like creature. I would say the third level is a bit rough on the eyes, but it's still quite an interesting one!

It may be slightly longer than Apjjm's pack, 36 levels compared to 25 levels, but don't expect this one to be a quick solve either! I say a lot of the levels are medium in difficulty, with some of the later levels a step up in difficulty. I definitely think the Cloud levels in Volume 3 were appropriately harder than either of the first two Volume packs, and then got even harder with the Bonus rank, despite it being only 3 levels. Then the difficulty resets with each of the set of 3 levels in the same tileset for the Amiga rank, where both the Menacing and A Beast II of a levels are all easy, although it still follows the natural progression in the increase in difficulty. In other words, I feel both the third Menacing and the third A Beast II of a level levels were the hardest, but again all 6 of these levels are still easy.

The 3 Agony levels, which are the final 3 levels of the pack, as well as the last 3 of the Amiga rank, are all in a difficulty class of their own. It starts off hard but ends with a medium-ish level. In my opinion, Amiga 8 is the hardest of the rank, although checking against zanzindorf's intended solution I really overcomplicated the solution to it :XD:

Volume I Rank/Pack Feedback

Since these are the exact same levels that come from the Superlemmini version, these feature only the classic 8 skills. There are probably only two hard levels in the rank, while the rest are about medium difficulty. All levels here feature the Glacier tileset.

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Volume II Rank/Pack Feedback

This didn't originally come from Superlemmini, this was always a NL pack. Thus, there are some levels which feature the NL skills, and one which even uses the slider skill, meaning this change must had been very recent, as the skill was added to stable NL just last year, even though the pack was released a few years back. There are also some levels which feature just the classic skills. The levels in this volume are harder than the ones in Volume I in general. All levels here feature the Kiwi tileset.

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Volume III Rank/Pack Feedback

Even harder levels here than the ones in either of the first two volumes. The new Cloud tileset here is amazing!

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Bonus Rank Feedback

Only 3 levels here, but don't be fooled. These are quite challenging, especially the last two! These feature some of zanzindorf's other tilesets which haven't been seen anywhere else, just like the Cloud tileset for the new Volume 3 rank.

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Amiga Rank Feedback

6 of these levels come from the Special pack, which was originally for Superlemmini, as mentioned. Thus, these use the classic 8 skills only. The rank starts off with 3 levels in the Menacing tileset, while the next 3 are in the Beast II of a level tileset. The final 3 levels are in zanzindorf's Agony tileset, which is another really nice levels that I have played levels in before. I especially love the animated water here! While the first 6 levels originally for Superlemmini are easy, the final 3 in zanzindorf's own tileset are very challenging!

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Despite being a short pack, I still enjoyed it very much. Thank you very much for the pack zanzindorf, and thank you for your remarks/comments on my solutions on Discord. I'm glad to hear that you very much enjoyed watching me solve your levels/pack. Happy to hear you're doing well too! I highly recommend others to play this pack! Once again, even if you can't solve every level, they're great ones to look at visually because of how wonderful these tilesets are!   
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0