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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2021, 02:45:30 PM »
Solved it pretty quickly actually thanks to a new builder stacker trick, saving two skills. 8-)

Edit: Found another solution which looks more intended than the other one, labelled B.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2021, 10:53:32 AM »
Yeah, that needs a little fix. ;)

V 1.3 is realeased!

- 5 10 Fixed backroute with some terrain changes. Adjusted the pretext a bit.


The trick you found is really nice! :thumbsup:  It needs timing though and with multiple lemmings the area must be safe.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2021, 02:15:43 PM »
Hey, thanks! 8-) I felt a rush of excitement as soon as I saw that too.

Good job fixing the two backroutes. Looking at these level fixes it seems like I'm doing the first bit correctly but not the second bit. I'm still able to find a solution though. I thought it was impossible to execute at first, until I realised something about the floater. Delaying it to maintain crowd control really makes that second statement in the pre-text a bigger reality now. I hope this solution is intended...
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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2021, 02:21:14 PM »
This is an acceptable alternative solution that also uses the stacker+ miner trick twice.

The intended solution is not far off, but slightly easier to exceute.

I've attached my solution for comparison. :)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2021, 08:47:41 PM »
Hello Icho,

I have solved the new levels and also resolved all levels where my replays broke. I have my entire replay collection attached.

Regarding the new levels:

3 22 - The Graveyard Wow, this was an unusually tough one for me but it's a great one. Demonstrates the three tricks needed to avoid further zombie infection well.

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3 23 - Laboratory of Explosions Easier than the previous level, but it definitely helps that I'm already aware of both of these tricks mentioned in the pretext. Even then, they occasionally go over my head! :laugh: Still, that's great that a level that teaches this is made for the NL Tutorial pack ;) Interestingly enough, I beat this level without the pretext ever loading, but that's because I have discovered a bug and I'm able to reproduce it.

3 24 - Containment Breach Yet another level that I was able to mostly figure out without the pretext ever loading, although what was mentioned in the pretext for this level I had figured out on my own. Once again, I was a dummy and completely missed what I mentioned in the spoiler for 3 22 above and therefore I was short a skill :forehead: It's amazing how sometimes these things get overlooked :XD:

6 8 - Saving Two Lems with One Bomb O.o, this was my favorite new level! :thumbsup: Not only is Proxima's tileset really nice, I really love the puzzle here. I remember namida suggesting on Discord this trick be taught in this pack.

6 9 - Stack and Step This was an unusually difficult level for me, and that's because I found it quite odd that the pre-text never even loaded when I first played this level. Even then, while I was trying to figure out what tricks you intended to teach in this level, I still managed to solve it on my own :P I have mentioned in various places around here that levels that provide lots of stackers tend to be hard ones for me. You can pretty much say these are "hard for kaywhyn levels." :laugh: Even then, this should be a backroute, considering I don't even use one of the tricks mentioned in the pretext when I did find out later on what it said.

6 10 - Jump the Sausage! This was also a difficult level for me, but it's a nice one. I'm glad that you put these levels teaching some stacker tricks, especially since they can be some of the most difficult ones to do. Even then, that didn't stop me from being able to complete certain United levels that required these tricks :P This might be a good time to add some tricks to Strato's topic on the stacker skill: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=3864.0

Levels I needed to resolve:

6 4 - Walking Over Dead Bodies

6 7 - Checkerboard's Crossing Much easier now than it was before thanks to all the pickups.

6 12 - Shimmichanga Now the walker is relevant instead of optional.

6 17 - A Different Kind of Space   
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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2021, 03:24:34 PM »
Thanks for the feedback and replays kaywhyn! :thumbsup:

V 1.4 is realeased!

- 3 22 (adjusted the pre-text to mention the blockers release direction)

- 6 09 (the jumper and 3 stackers are now pick-up skills)


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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2021, 04:47:21 PM »
Resolved 6 9. Now I use both tricks the level is meant to teach, so this should be intended now :thumbsup:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2021, 02:59:07 PM »
The NL Intro pack will be updated as soon as the new levels covering the Laserer and Slider are ready.

As they will be quite a few it will probably take a bit, but be sure to stay tuned. ;)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2022, 02:14:32 PM »
The big laserer and slider update is here: V 1.5 is out! :thumbsup:

New levels:

1 12 Laserer + slider intro

2 05 Paint objects

3 12 Floater + Glider + Swimmer exit
3 13 Floater and Glider slowing down/getting ahead
3 14 Training
3 28 Slider + bomber holes
3 29 Laserer + shimmier
3 30 Training

4 08 Slider + shimmier
4 09 Slider + builder --> Slider turns
4 10 Training
4 24 Laserer + cloner/blocker
4 25 Disarmer interruption: Laserer - Disarmer / Builder - Disarmer
4 26 Training
4 29 Laserer and interrupt + shimmier/jumper/general interrupt
4 30 Turn with 2 builders directly after each other
4 31 Training

5 11 Slider + stacker + miner (+ cloner) / Stoner + slider
5 12 Stacker + builder step up
5 13 Training

Be aware that this pushes around the positions of eligible levels regarding LOTY 2021 nominations!

Thanks again to Armani and kaywhyn for pretesting! :thumbsup:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2022, 03:39:06 AM »
Completed the first four ranks, replays attached.

The new content is very good for the most part. I have concerns with two particular levels, but the rest are going great so far. I really love the new Slider and Laserer tricks that you've shown off. Particularly liked the stuff about sliders+builders and the showcasing of how much a single laserer can do for you in a level.

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I'll do Advanced Training over the coming days, time permitting.
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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2022, 05:19:17 PM »
Thanks for the replays and feedback. I will probably look through them + prepare a patch when you are through with the pack. I also got some replays from josh to go through. :)

Your point are valid though and are exactly what I look for in terms of feedback! If 1-2 more hints, making a fiddly solution impossible, or reducing the precision move these problems out of the way without much trouble I will certainly go for it in the next patch! :)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2022, 03:54:54 AM »
Advanced Rank complete and replays attached. Some of these were pretty tricky, even with the hints.

These ones:

9 Stack and Step
10 Jump the Sausage
13 Caught and Released
20 A Different Kind of Space
27 Victory Lap

...each took me at least half an hour. Not necessarily a bad thing, though it does make the beginner tag feel slightly misleading, hah.

Some specific comments:

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« Last Edit: February 02, 2022, 06:06:24 AM by DireKrow »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2022, 05:19:24 PM »
I probably look through everything this weekend and then prepare the next update based on all the feedback. Again, thank you very much! :thumbsup:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2022, 03:55:18 PM »
V 1.6 is out!

Thanks to josh and DireKrowfor the feedback and replays! :thumbsup:

Position swaps:

5 14 - 5 16 is now 5 08 - 5 10 and as a result:
5 08 - 5 13 is now 5 11 - 5 16

Fixes:

3 11 backroute fix + pre text mentions that jumping is faster than walking.
3 14 pre text change
3 27 pre text change

5 12 pre text change
5 13 pre text change
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Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2022, 12:46:55 AM »
I also played and finished this pack. I really like the pack. Also like the new slider and laser levels. Some advanced training levels were tricky.

replays attached.