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Offline Armani

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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v12 - 17/02/2023}
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2023, 07:37:38 AM »
Here're my resolves :laugh:
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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v13 - 19/02/2023}
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2023, 10:41:51 PM »
Well that Blockers go to Heaven backroute was embarassing, I should have definitely caught that one myself.

Your solution to Pillar Pairs was so completely unintended in every way, I love it, I've decided to keep it in, so no changes.

Version 13 attached ti the opening post.

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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v13 - 19/02/2023}
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2023, 04:31:50 AM »
My solution spares a skill in the new level but other than that, it feels good 8-)
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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v14 - 21/02/2023}
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2023, 07:34:02 AM »
Thanks again so much for all these replays and resolves, you're contributing so much to making this pack the best it can be, I can't thank you enough.

Over the last few days I did a deep review of the third rank like I had already done of the first two, and it turned out I'd forgotten about a bunch of backroutes you'd found in this rank, so here are many fixes, and a new level. There are still two levels left due a full replacement, The Dire Docks and Pain Factory.

v14 attached to the opening post.

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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v14a - 21/02/2023}
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2023, 10:04:13 PM »
Apologies to the one person that downloaded v14. In the shower I had an idea of how to backroute Down the Tubes, so I've released a v14a with a fix.

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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v14a - 21/02/2023}
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2023, 06:57:07 AM »
More replays incoming! 8-)
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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v14a - 21/02/2023}
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2023, 08:28:23 PM »
I noticed Fun 3 The Tree of Life and Also Fun 2 The Tree of Death have the same level ID as well as all level 15s Rank finishers. Each level should have a unique level ID.

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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v15 - 22/02/2023}
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2023, 11:10:52 PM »
Thanks ericderkovits, this will be because originally I copied over the terrain by just resaving the level under a new file name, but that was years ago before you had the ability to random up a new level id. I've given all the repeat levels new ids. This will make existing replays think they're for the wrong level, but the levels are otherwise unchanged.

And thanks again Armani for more replays. Getting very close to finishing the pack now. Here's another new level, just one left to replace.

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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v16 - 23/02/2023}
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2023, 11:25:41 PM »
That's it! It's done! Barring any more backroute fixes, the pack is now officially done. All 60 levels that I plan to keep. I felt in the end that the central premise of Pain Factory deserved a second chance, so I ended up reworking it rather than entirely replace it.

I much prefer the final release to be the moment I stop working on a pack, so I won't be releasing the pack just yet. I'll still wait for people to play and find backroutes, but eventually I'll decide it's time for release, and if there are any more backroutes after then, then oh well.

I also did the in-depth review of the final rank. Only one backroute I'd missed that needed fixing this time.

A huge thank you to everyone who's played so far, all feedback has helped immensely.

v16 attached to the opening post.

v16 changelog
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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v16 - 23/02/2023}
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2023, 04:46:10 AM »
I think we are just before the finishing line :laugh:
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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v17 - 24/02/2023}
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2023, 07:48:51 PM »
Thanks once again. Boxed In bottom solution and Down the Tubes are so very close that honestly I'm happy with your solutions, but they could have minor tweaks that pull you towards the exact intended solution without many issues, so I made those changes anyway. And of course fixed the top route backroute in Boxed In.

Grasping at Straws, I went in to make the obvious backroute fix, but then I thought, I swear I was going to make this change before. An experience of deja vu. I'm thinking maybe that I had intended to fix it all those years ago, I think Akseli highlighted this but I just decided I would replace the level instead. Fixing the other solution is easy enough with a time limit, but I'm unhappy about it. Honestly not very happy about this level any more, putting in the strict time limit makes it a little annoying, precise and fiddly. Maybe I wasn't super happy with every level after all! I'll have a think over the weekend, I might replace this one, but in the meantime the level is fixed.

Crag David I was happy with. It's fine to save the builder here, actually I think it would be better to enforce this, so I did. Also, your solution was never actually fully intended but I liked it and it was close enough, I've decided to make it the official solution, and removed a Blocker too accordingly.

v17 changelog:
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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v18 - 25/02/2023}
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2023, 08:45:09 PM »
I had another idea for a level and so Grasping at Straws got replaced, solving that particular issue.

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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v18 - 25/02/2023}
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2023, 05:58:58 AM »
Here're my new replays for updated levels and the new level.
Probably Down the Tubes and Pain Factory are not still intended.
All other levels look okay at least :laugh:
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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v19a - 26/02/2023}
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2023, 02:14:59 PM »
Thanks once again.

I'm glad I kept trying to force more the intended solution from Down the Tubes as your latest solution was a backroute that's been available for a while. This level is increasingly looking like it's filled with backroute fixes, but at least with this change I think I've been able to back out the worst looking part, the bit at the trapdoor to the left. Now to be reminded the hard way why I need to put that back in ;)

Fixing Drifting Away is getting tough, as higher entropy was one of the core parts of this level, as it is disguising the primary puzzle of this level. So I'm hesitant to fix certain things. Having said that, your solution with that Blocker sure was cool, I have noted it down for a future level in another pack ;)

I went nuclear on the entropy on Joint Construction, oh well. I think the level will largely solve itself now, but we'll see.

There was a v19 uploaded, but while writing this I made a further change to Down the Tubes and somebody had downloaded v19 before I made my fix, so that's why there's now a v19a.

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Re: [Neolemmix] Quest From Kieran {v19a - 26/02/2023}
« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2023, 04:33:51 AM »
More replays 8-)
My newest Neolemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 :D 8-)

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My NL level packs(in chronological order):
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  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]