The Lemmins Fangame

[Minim]

Here's a fangame which was not posted on the archive, and here's the site where you can download it from.

http://games.softpedia.com/get/Freeware-Games/Lemmins.shtml

What do you think of this clone? Is it good enough to be downloaded on the Lemmings file archive?

[Yawg]

Its a decent clone with some nice features and a vastly improved HUD, but the huge differences in mechanics make it quite frustrating for someone used to DOS/Custlemm mechanics.

Plus, while the single .exe is nice and efficient, its quite a letdown that you can't add you own level files to the game's "User" directory.

[GigaLem]

Well is the level editor ready

[Minim]

Well, for some reason, there isn't one as far as I know, so we can't do a thing about editing levels.

[GigaLem]

Kinda looks like lemmini

[Geoff]

very old post, but that is my effort. And DO NOT download from that link in the first post i get a virus warning. plus that is a very old version of my effort.

my most recent version.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B63pDrvBaCrGX2JPMDR4LW5nYzA

[namida]

Looks like you put a fair bit of effort in, but it also appears to suffer from the same issue as Cheapo: Frame rates are so low that it's virtually unplayable on newer systems (even when run in compatibility mode). I don't know whether this is related to the power of the system, or the OS (I'm on Windows 10, I ran under compatibility mode for Windows XP).

[Geoff]

For some reason it runs very slow on windows 10, so i downgraded back to windows 7.

[namida]

Are you planning to continue work on it?

If not, and if you've made a substantial amount of original levels for it, I would be more than happy to help you with converting these to NeoLemmix.

[Geoff]

I'm always tinkering with it, i written it using blitzbasic+ your welcome to use the levels and graphics if you want.

[namida]

There's definitely some interesting tilesets here! I didn't look at the levels yet - since it uses a unique format, they can't just be directly plugged into another engine, and as I mentioned, the game doesn't run well on my PC. The format looks simple enough, though.

[Geoff]

The level format is basically a text file.

[namida]

Yeah, I noticed this.  If I'm not mistaken, it follows this format, with all positions being in high-res (ie: same resolution as Lemmini, which is double that of DOS / Lemmix / NeoLemmix):

<level code>
- seems to always be 125?
<release rate>
<number of lemmings>
<save requirement>
<time limit in minutes>
<skill counts in normal order, one per line>
<screen start position>

# object data
<piece index number>
<X position>
<Y position>

- I assume these two in some way encode the No Overwrite, Invert and Only On Terrain settings?
--- repeat for each object
End

# terrain data
<piece index number>
<X position>
<Y position>
- I assume this in some way encodes the No Overwrite, Invert and Erase settings?
--- repeat for each terrain piece
End

# steel data
<X position>
<Y position>
<width>
<height>
--- repeat for each steel area
End

<blank line to finish file>

The level name and music track don't appear to be stored in the .lev file, but only in the levelpack.ini file.

[Geoff]

<level code>
- seems to always be 125?  ; maxfall distance in pixels
<release rate>
<number of lemmings>
<save requirement>
<time limit in minutes>
<skill counts in normal order, one per line>
<screen start position>

# object data
<piece index number>
<X position>
<Y position>
   ; visible on terrain only
   ; full, invert etc
--- repeat for each object
End

# terrain data
<piece index number>
<X position>
<Y position>
- I assume this in some way encodes the No Overwrite, Invert and Erase settings? yes
--- repeat for each terrain piece
End

# steel data
<X position>
<Y position>
<width>
<height>
--- repeat for each steel area
End
0 screen back red
32                  green
48                  blue
a line here can be a background image

[namida]

   ; visible on terrain only
   ; full, invert etc

- I assume this in some way encodes the No Overwrite, Invert and Erase settings? yes

Could you elaborate on how it stores these? I assume it's bitwise, but what are the exact values that correspond to which setting?