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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #105 on: October 14, 2009, 12:52:15 PM »
Ahh, I just work out from the screenshots how you did Fun 22 (I don't have access to Lemmix right now because i'm not at home). That's a very crafty method of bunching the lemmings together. :thumbsup: I'll have to try this out for myself, and see if it can be used elsewhere.
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« Reply #106 on: October 14, 2009, 12:57:23 PM »
As if these bash-up solutions haven't gotten insane enough, now I present Fun 22 with bashers+diggers.  Unfortunately the method used earlier in Fun 23 is short by I think at least 2 bashers and 2 diggers here :XD:, so an even more difficult-to-execute method is needed--the kind that really makes you appreciate the replay features of Lemmix and LemmixPlayer.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #107 on: October 24, 2009, 06:13:54 AM »
To round up Crazy, Level 10 works with Blockers, bombers, builders and bashers. I used a replay in the minimum skills thread on reply #34 to confirm it.

A few more Wild levels for you here:
18: Bombers and builders (obvious isn't it?)
20: Diggers and builders

After a long while, you didn't put them in.

Hang on, we haven't finished yet,* but I have just thought of a idea: Do this thread first, and then do the "essential skills" thread.

*Somebody has gotta do Blitz, Wicked and Havoc.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #108 on: October 27, 2009, 01:04:41 PM »
There're still some Tricky results left unreported, but what the heck, here're some Wicked solutions:

Wicked 1: bomber+miner (glitch) [attached].  Also can be done with climber+bomber and bomber+basher (glitch), both of which are pretty well known and therefore not replay-worthy.

Wicked 14: basher+builder [attached]

A brief look at the first half of Wicked suggests that you should be able to derive most of the results from previous challenges.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #109 on: October 27, 2009, 10:46:43 PM »
I've got a 2-type solution for Mayhem 23; Builders & Bashers (100%).

Edit: Glitch tag removed.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #110 on: October 27, 2009, 11:04:20 PM »
I would argue that's glitch free (unless I missed something while watching it).

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« Reply #111 on: October 27, 2009, 11:14:38 PM »
I wasn't sure if the way my worker lemming was interacting with the very top of the level was classed as a glitch or not. Instead of turning around after building, he'd continue walking in the same direction he was facing. If that's not classed as a glitch, then i'll remove the glitch tag.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2009, 06:17:17 AM »
I'm pretty sure that's intentional.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2009, 06:19:09 AM »
Added all from Minimac's post onwards.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2009, 10:08:12 AM »
Here's Fun 22 with bombers and bashers, and Fun 29 with bombers and builders. I'm convinced that Fun 23 has more 2-skill solutions too.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2009, 12:29:28 PM »
I'm pretty sure that's intentional.

Cool. In that case, i've removed the glitch tag. :D
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #116 on: October 28, 2009, 04:17:34 PM »
Mayhem 9 can be done with builders, bashers, and diggers.  Simply put, a digger and several builders at the beginning remove the need for a blocker, and there are just enough builders left to do the rest of the level normally.

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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #117 on: October 29, 2009, 06:08:23 AM »
Sounds like 100% could be done with that... can it? (I won't put the tag until someone confirms it.)
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #118 on: October 29, 2009, 06:14:01 AM »
With a builder to spare. :)
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2011, 08:02:00 AM »
Bumping this thread as we haven't finished this challenge yet.

I worked through the rest of Crazy, Wild, and Wicked and some of them just can't be improved at all.

Anyway, I used a glitch to solve Crazy 10 with Climbers, Bombers, Builders and Bashers

For Wild I did:
1: Bombers and Builders
2: Builders and Bashers (100%)
4: Builders, Bashers and Diggers (100%)
5: Bombers and Builders
6: Diggers and Builders (100%)
7: Builders and Bashers (100%)
8: Climbers, Floaters and Builders (100%)
10: Builders and Bashers
11: Climbers, Builders, Bashers and Miners (100%) (Involves a glitch to get this right)
12: Blockers, Builders and Bashers
13: Climbers, Bombers, Builders, Bashers & Miners
14: Builders and Bashers
15: Bombers, Builders and Bashers
16: Climbers and Builders (100%)

The Wicked results are

2: Builders, Bashers, Miners & Diggers (100%)
3: Builders and Diggers (100%)
4: Builders and Bombers
5: Builders, Bashers and diggers
8: Builders, Bombers and Climbers
9: Builders and Blockers. Builders and Floaters
10: Blockers, Bombers, Builders & Diggers
11: Blockers, Builders, Bashers & Miners
12: Blockers, Builders and Miners
15: Floaters, Builders and Bashers
16: Builders, Miners and Bombers
19: Builders and Bashers
20: Blockers, Diggers and Bashers.

I also worked on some Havoc too, and came up with the following results:

1: Builders & Bashers
2: Climbers, Blockers, Builders & Diggers
3 and 4: Builders, Bashers and Diggers (100%)
5: Builders, Climbers, Bashers and Miners (100%)
8: Climbers, Builders & Miners
9: Climbers, Builders & Miners (100%)
11: Builders, Bashers and Diggers (100%)
13: Blockers, Bombers Builders and Miners. Blockers, Bombers, Builders and Bashers
14: Climbers, Builders, bashers & Diggers
15: Blockers, Builders, Bashers & Diggers
16: Climbers, Blockers and Builders.

Unfortunately, I haven't saved any replays, because I forgot which button I should press. :P

I need help with Havoc 7.  I can't seem to get lower than six different sets of skills. :(
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