Author Topic: Which levels can be beaten without assigning skills to more than one lemming?  (Read 51885 times)

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Online Proxima

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No, because unless more Blizzard levels are solved (which looks unlikely) the positive format is more compact.

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Oh, OK then. I'll try and understand your concept here ;)
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Here it is: the replay for Mayhem 2.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2020, 03:04:38 PM by Minim »

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That is unbelievable. I've never seen such fine lemming control. Brilliant work. :thumbsup:
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100% on 110/120 levels (92%). Other levels [Lemmings lost]:
Fun 03 [3], 06 [2], 18 [5]   
Taxing 19 [5], 27 [1], 28 [3]
Tricky 15 [5], 17 [2]
Mayhem 19 [7], 26 [10]

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I finally got 100% on Blitz 1.
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That is unbelievable. I've never seen such fine lemming control. Brilliant work. :thumbsup:
Thanks  :)

The sliding trick just never gets old :D


I finally got 100% on Blitz 1.

Ahhh... so you can bash through all that. I didn't look at the terrain very closely :XD:

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I finally got 100% on Blitz 1.

Ahhh... so you can bash through all that. I didn't look at the terrain very closely :XD:

This isn't exactly new, I used that same method on the minimum skills thread for my 13-skills solution to Blitz 1 that doesn't use any climbers and floaters.  In fact, the only thing that hung me up initially on this one was the time limit, believe it or not.  Apparently all that climbing and floating adds up to a lot of time even for a 9-minute level, and I did way too much of that when I first tried out this level for this challenge.

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Results for Wild:

all except 5, 7, 8, 13, 15, 18, 20.  non-100%:  3, 10, 12, 19

Selected solutions attached.  (Nothing spectacular I'm afraid.)
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Um Proxima, you misplaced my results in Wicked instead of Wild.

I've gone through Wicked 1-10 so far and there's definitely a sharp drop in number of levels possible for the challenge.  So far only 2, 4, and 6, non-100% on 4 and 6.  4 may be unique in that the worker lemming himself cannot make the exit.

Havoc 4 can also be added to the list because the 3-skills solution I presented satisfies the criteria of the challenge.
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final Wicked results from me are:

2, 4, 6, 11, 13, 15, 18, 19.   I only managed 100% on 2 and 18.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2020, 03:10:23 PM by Minim »

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And here goes Havoc:

1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 15, 19.  Only 10 is non-100%.

For Havoc 16, note that I failed because of the time limit rather than lack of skills.  I believe you'll need a totally different approach to get around the time issue, and I'm not seeing any other approaches available when you can't use blockers.
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This has been cold for a couple of days now... so here's Frost.  :P

All except 6, 10, 15, 16. Non-100% on 7 and 14. And if you recall from the least-skills thread, 13 can be solved by the nuke glitch, saving 1 of 1 (i.e. 100%).

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Hail 1 and 6 are obviously possible, whereas Hail 2 and 5 are obviously impossible.
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Don't forget about the possibility of 100%. Hail 1 requires 100% to pass, so that's simple enough.

Hail 4, 8, 9, 11 and 13 are all possible with 100%. Hail 3 I won't go near (see this thread for why), but I'm gonna say 100% for this one too.

That leaves Hail 10 in doubt. Any solution here would have to start from the lower left entrance, for obvious reasons, which makes things difficult. At this point I'd have to say no to this one, for the time limit if nothing else (although it looks like one more basher or builder is needed anyway).

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I agree with you about the impossibility of Hail 10 and the possibility of Hail 3 (unless the time limit proves an insuperable obstacle; I don't have the Holiday levels so I can't say for sure, but I've put it down).

Although of course it's possible that more solutions are discovered later, for now we have at least looked at every level and solved over two-thirds! Well done and thanks for taking part, everyone.