So, I'm back but only to give you some sad news. Minty, my second cat, had died at the vets earlier today. Now, you may be wondering why I'm posting this in front of you lot. As well as being a lovely gentle cat himself that especially loved going on people's laps, his frightened reaction to one of the old sound effects while I was playing Lix inspired me to write this post on his behalf. Yes, that makes him probably the most unexpected contributor to a lemmings fangame! He will forever remain in my heart, and I hope he will be in your hearts someday too. <3

RIP Minty (2/9/02 - 3/6/22)

EDIT by namida: Fixed the title tags.

This has come moments after I realised something crucially important about the Laserer from a challenge perspective.

Take Fun 23's "I've lost that Lemming feeling" for example, a level with huge walls that sometimes lead up to the top border when fencing. The fencer stays alive and turns the other way as soon as he touches the top edge.

I don't think this is intended, as he should walk up and die instead, but would anyone else like to share their thoughts on this?

So, I'm thinking about doing a re-run of the new skills challenge thread after the deadline passes. I need to consider one more thing I just stumbled across right now during the level "Patience".

If the lemmings are grouped in a cloned stacker pit, and you use a right-side laserer to set them free, the lemmings will enter out to the left and die. I tried selecting lemmings in the majority AND minority of that pit, and there's no difference, because if a laserer hits terrain in a severely crowded space then it also destroys terrain behind them. This is a nuisance if you're going for 100%, especially if one side's a deadly fall, because there aren't enough stacks to turn those lems into the intended direction.

I've uploaded the level I've modified (which has some new skills added) and the replay. If anyone wants me to draw diagrams then let me know. I'll put it in the OP.

Simply needs a little fix. The 'Nuke' works as normal because it's a different function and the F12 key works fine too, but the 'Timer Bypass' nuke fails to work.

Hi, namida. I'm just need to mention a few things related to the Configure Hotkeys menu before releasing the final build.

Similar to this thread I made earlier, there's no pre-assigned hot-key for the Jumper, Slider and Laserer skills. For the Traditionalist layout, I have an alternate speech mark ` (currently coded as 00DF) along with - and = as suggestions. As for Functional, we still have F8-12 and 0 as options, but maybe you don't want to use the F keys for skills in that layout, and would rather rearrange other keys.

Also, the ~ (Tilde) and ' (Speech Mark) buttons are swapped around on my laptop keyboard. I think this is probably a bug that needs fixing, or just that we have two different keyboard layouts.

Quote from: Proxima in Challenges Board on January 20, 2020, 08:48:56 PM
It's important to be aware that, unlike the original games, [NeoLemmix] packs may be updated by their creators/compilers at any time. To make things run more smoothly, if you have any records to share, please observe the following protocol:

* Refer to levels by name, not just position! Records without level names will not be added to the opening post.

This singular rule has inspired me to come up with a proposal. Currently all Smileys have Tooltip Text when hovered over (Like this one, ). However, by surrounding the Level's Number or Name in Tooltip Text (TT), users can just hover over the level with the mouse and find out information about this level instantly via a Hint Box.

For example, if a user writes Mayhem 1 in TT (say it's something like [t]Mayhem 1[/t]), a box will show that the level is named "Steel Works", the platform is from Amiga and that the game's from Original Lemmings. As another example, NeoLemmix's Redux pack has a level called "Save Me". This could be written like [t=nl]Save Me[/t] with "[t=nl]" being a NeoLemmix version of the level. Or we could sort it out by difficulty rating, in other words [t=lr5]Save Me[/t] meaning this level is from Redux in the Lunatic difficulty rating, the fifth rating in the pack. Whichever way, the help box would come up with information like "NeoLemmix, Lemmings Redux, Lunatic 29, Save Me".

The majority of users (if not all users) in Challenges refer to a certain level as the level's number. Sometimes the rank is used alongside it. We prefer doing it this way because it's a natural habit of us to cut tedium. Adding TT to them would eliminate all the potential questions that new users (and old) could ask about.

The hard part I guess is how (and whether) TT can be implemented into the forums. We may also need to come up with a TT icon that shouldn't be too similar to Teletype, the existing one that uses the ["tt"] function. Another question is how should it look in the preview, One of my suggestions is a superscripted Question Mark on the right side of the level's number, etc. Finally the possibility of a printer friendly version of it? As that last bit is unlikely to happen though, we could make a level list on a separate thread for people to print.

If TT implementation is successful, I'll see if I could apply this to the Challenge board of the Original Lemmings games first, because at least they're guaranteed to be unchanged. Once we're confident with that then we can try other things. Anything that needs clarifying please let me know. Thanks.

I'm thinking of taking part in WillLem's 1-minute challenge thread, however, as soon as I apply a time limit to a level pack using QuickMod, all the levels' timers are removed instead.

Hi, folks.

I created this drawing during an art therapy lesson a long time ago. This was created three days after I uploaded the brick set level pack for Lemmix.

The link for the brick version of this level (though not identical to the drawing) is here, under I think one of the last two level packs. I originally made this level in 2008 under the name "Use the grey matter for this one" while I was motivated after creating my first level for Lemmini.

I'm afraid haven't drawn anything else since lockdown in the UK, but because I'm aware that some people like to draw I thought I'd share mine. Enjoy!

This is the half size file. If anybody wants the full size please let me know. There were also some random pencil marks that I tried to rub off to the best of my ability.

Currently, any terrain piece or object is snapped to a grid which affects the horizontal AND vertical axes. This is fine if a graphic set has square pieces, but not if there are irregular rectangle pieces like the Orig fire tileset and the majority of the Orig's steel blocks.

(DOS counterpart link)
(Latest version of Lemmings Redux)
(Latest version of The NeoLemmix Introduction Pack)

OK, the Time records have been released.

Thanks to namida, Proxima and all others for their earlier contributions to the challenge threads involving Redux. Thanks also to Kaywhyn, DireKrow and Flopsy for replays/LPs to the NeoLemmix Introduction Pack, and to WillLem for uploading the Lemminas results. Any more questions or errors on the table please let me know.

Latest Update: NeoLemmix Introduction Pack updated to V1.5 with new levels and results, plus improvements to older ones. Some Redux replays reuploaded to add nukes to existing solutions. The most recent level improvement is Zany 13: "Don't leave any lemmings" with a time of 0:53.53, though there is room to improve at the start of the solution thanks to the exit facing the opposite way.

Lemmings Redux

Gentle

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Just dig!	0:17.12
2	Only floaters can survive this	0:20.00
3	Tailor-made for blockers	0:20.47
4	Now use miners and climbers	0:36.71
5	You need bashers this time	0:36.41
6	A task for bombers	0:21.47
7	Builders will help you here	0:43.59
8	Snuggle up to a Lemming	0:18.35
9	Get a little extra help	0:39.29
10	Downwardly Mobile Lemmings	0:10.71
11	Keep your hair on, Mr. Lemming	0:25.71
12	A Block from Home	0:29.29
13	Let's go to the moon!	0:35.59
14	CindyLand	0:44.53
15	Darkness of the royal family	0:30.59
16	A Beast of a level	0:44.18
17	You Live and Lem	1:13.82
18	Lemming toast	0:38.18
19	Where do you see Lemmings?	0:39.94
20	Patience	0:30.06
21	Lemmings in the attic	0:21.29
22	Let's be careful out there	0:24.41
23	Pillar talking	1:17.94
24	Rainbow Island	1:04.53
25	The Crankshaft	1:17.18
26	Careless clicking costs lives	0:52.71
27	Quest for Kieran	0:38.94
28	Catch more floaters.	1:09.29
29	Konnichiwa Lemming-san	1:16.76
30	Turn around, young lemmings!	0:16.71
31	Doomsday	0:35.41
32	Going Their Separate Ways	0:49.88

Quirky

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	PoP YoR ToP!!!	0:27.47
2	It's Lemmingentry, Watson	0:24.94
3	Vacation in Gemland	1:43.94
4	Go for it!	1:28.94
5	Keep all enemies out.	1:22.27
6	Just a Quicky	0:26.59
7	The runaround	2:21.12
8	A Spot of Bother	0:52.12
9	Exodus!	1:20.53
10	The Needs of the Many...	1:15.65
11	DON'T PANIC	0:44.24
12	Over the wall	0:33.88
13	Haunted botanical garden	0:30.82
14	Meeting Adjourned	1:28.59
15	Plethora of Presents	0:59.06
16	MENACING !!	0:58.18
17	Mr Lemmy Lives Next Door	1:16.53
18	One way or another	2:02.41
19	Tunnel vision	1:07.82
20	Perseverance	0:27.29
21	The Long Way Around	0:56.53
22	The Far Side	2:09.35
23	Emmings!  (No L)	1:23.71
24	Lunch time	0:58.35
25	No choice but to follow them	1:10.29
26	Take care, Sweetie	1:27.76
27	The Island of the Wicker people	1:10.29
28	Speed Trap	0:54.65
29	Tension Sheet, Good Idea	1:18.18
30	Izzie Wizzie lemmings get busy	0:49.24
31	Cascade	0:53.59
32	And then there were four...	1:20.53

Zany

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	The bridge is breaking down.	1:03.76
2	Temporary peace	1:42.65
3	Last one out is a rotten egg!	0:49.35
4	LEMTRIS	1:16.65
5	Watch out, there's traps about	0:47.24
6	Compression Method 1	0:47.06
7	No time for a detour	0:49.35
8	Lemmy in the cold, cold ground	1:44.94
9	No justice for the hero	1:40.18
10	Flow Control	0:22.41
11	LeMming ToMato KetchUp fAcilitY	0:26.94
12	Twins	0:57.88
13	Don't leave any Lemmings	0:53.53
14	Pitfall	1:06.41
15	With a little help from my Lem	1:14.06
16	What an AWESOME level	1:56.12
17	Lemming Lament	1:09.06
18	KEEP ON TRUCKING	1:15.47
19	Postcard from Lemmingland	1:14.35
20	Dolly Dimple	0:46.88
21	Mutiny on the Bounty	1:43.47
22	SNOW JOKE	1:33.41
23	ONWARD AND UPWARD	2:13.94
24	I have a cunning plan	0:35.59
25	Have a nice day!	1:04.94
26	Across the Gap	0:29.00
27	Jump down!	1:39.47
28	Worra load of old blocks!	1:02.59
29	Four Play	1:32.65
30	Got anything... Lemmingy???	0:55.47
31	ROCKY ROAD	2:10.88
32	The North Poles	2:01.35

Manic

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Let's get together.	0:50.59
2	The Lemming Funhouse	0:39.06
3	If at first you don't succeed...	2:26.41
4	No world without you	0:55.65
5	Synchronised Lemming	0:46.59
6	Chill out!	0:15.41
7	Down the tube	0:30.65
8	Is this a circus?	1:32.41
9	AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!	1:50.35
10	ROCKY VI	1:56.06
11	With a twist of lemming, please	1:30.65
12	Steel Block Party	0:35.18
13	Upside-down World	1:45.41
14	Come on over to my place	0:34.12
15	THE SILENCE OF THE LEMMINGS	1:22.06
16	A BeastII of a level	1:45.53
17	Just a Minute...	0:44.82
18	The gate trap Lemmings.	1:01.41
19	Poles Apart	1:12.88
20	Fall and no life.	1:36.53
21	Electric circuit	1:09.59
22	It's not over till it's over	0:48.53
23	Old MacDonald Had a Farm...	0:56.82
24	The race against cliches	2:04.47
25	Acrophobia	0:56.94
26	Triple Trouble	0:56.47
27	Watch your fingertip!	1:07.18
28	Out, away from the tune	1:28.65
29	Just a Minute (Part Two)	0:43.71
30	POOR WEE CREATURES!	1:41.53
31	Where Lemmings Dare	0:46.06
32	Temple of Love	2:02.59

Lunatic

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	It's hero time!	0:39.47
2	The Boiler Room	1:18.59
3	Anxiety	1:20.71
4	No added colours or Lemmings	0:34.06
5	There's madness in the method	1:39.76
6	Which one are you trying to get?	0:39.65
7	Down, along, up, in that order	1:16.76
8	Lemming about town	2:56.41
9	Evacuating a coal mine	1:26.06
10	Be more than just a number	1:39.18
11	Fix the road, quick!	1:38.65
12	Water processing plant	1:41.06
13	This Corrosion	1:14.53
14	Move on in two separate groups.	1:05.41
15	Evil whisper	1:17.71
16	SEGA Four	1:46.12
17	Creature Discomforts	1:03.65
18	Scaling the Heights	0:25.18
19	Private room available	0:59.94
20	No hurry, relax.	1:54.24
21	The Steel Mines of Kessel	1:54.18
22	Hello John! Got a New Lemming?	2:29.65
23	The Great Lemming Caper	0:48.82
24	Everyone's a hard nut.	0:59.65
25	Watch right or left (Part Two)	0:23.59
26	Final impediment	0:22.00
27	Let's go camping.	0:10.06
28	Lemmings in a situation	1:25.88
29	Save Me	3:10.12
30	Lemmings' Ark	1:33.06
31	I am A.T.	0:47.18
32	Fall and no life (Part Two)	2:01.06

Ichotolot's NeoLemmix Introduction Pack

Skills

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Just Digging Into NeoLemmix	0:48.71
2	Let's Take a Bash At It!	0:50.94
3	Fence & Mine For A Diagonal Line	1:10.94
4	Climb Up, Hang On, Get Along!	1:14.88
5	Block And Blow In The Snow	0:52.53
6	A Float, A Glide, Puts Any Abyss Aside!	0:12.12
7	Building Flat And Building High	2:12.47
8	Stacks And Stones Saved Our Bones	1:09.59
9	Amphibious Engineer Squad	1:00.65
10	Walking On The Cloner Cliffs	0:18.71
11	Jumping Lem Flash	0:23.47
12	Laserslide	1:16.41
13	They Can't Mash Us All!	0:29.47
14	Just Nuke Them!	0:21.29

Objects & Functions

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Up For A Walk?	1:37.65
2	Time Crime	0:47.47
3	Index Error Out Of Bounds	1:14.94
4	Iron Anthill	1:14.76
5	A New Coat Of Paint	2:10.12
6	Trap Roulette	1:55.53
7	Follow The Arrow!	1:50.94
8	Set Your Priorities Right!	0:48.76
9	Pick Them Up And Push Them Down	1:51.59
10	Split And Splat	0:41.82
11	Beam Them Over	2:32.65
12	Gravity Lab	1:27.41
13	Stop, Rewind And Go!	1:29.76
14	Big Steps Through The Snow	3:53.06
15	Getting Into Sorting	0:54.82
16	Highlights With A Safety Net	1:37.18
17	Night Of The Living Lems	2:49.29
18	Neutral Response	1:31.71

Basic Training 1

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Tower Of Training	2:17.35
2	With Minimal Efforts	2:07.29
3	Headbumper	2:27.12
4	Blocker Rocker	1:46.82
5	Steely Halls	1:19.06
6	Central Fear	0:49.47
7	Limited Release	2:41.18
8	Spiraling Out Of Control	3:12.88
9	Deepfreeze	2:32.71
10	PARKOUR !	1:51.06
11	The Guardian	1:53.59
12	Weightless	0:56.18
13	Distance Control	1:34.41
14	King Of The Sky	0:36.65
15	Backup Wall	2:02.94
16	The Builder Drain	3:29.41
17	Top-Down Approach	1:51.76
18	Reacharound	2:42.24
19	Scrap The Buttons!	2:14.71
20	Airdrop Incoming!	1:24.94
21	Fly Traps	2:05.47
22	It's A Stretch	2:23.71
23	Delaying The Inevitable	3:11.71
24	Chalk Walk	1:44.24
25	The Graveyard	1:04.12
26	Laboratory Of Explosions	2:16.94
27	Containment Breach!	3:18.41
28	Slider's Sacrifice	1:34.35
29	Blastcrawler	5:21.76
30	Oil Processing Plant	4:00.94

Basic Training 2

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	The Joy Of Sorting	1:44.35
2	Hidden Crystalline Temple	2:26.88
3	Dig The Trench!	1:22.82
4	Sandy Danger	1:16.88
5	Lab Workout	1:55.47
6	That Little Extra Help	1:20.65
7	Counterclockwise	0:52.00
8	Keep A Tight Grasp!	2:07.18
9	Cunning Cycle	2:56.00
10	Above The Nile	2:35.24
11	Infinity	1:00.29
12	Platstop	0:45.24
13	Stick The Landing!	1:04.41
14	Steps And Pixels	2:14.24
15	Stepblocked	3:35.88
16	The Steepest Slope	1:41.65
17	A Sudden Change In Direction	2:06.29
18	Concentrated Force	0:30.94
19	Blocked In Your Favor	1:53.88
20	Double Down!	1:54.18
21	Combine & Conquer	4:10.59
22	Fancy Fencer	3:35.00
23	Equal Distribution	2:39.24
24	Snow Splitter	1:28.12
25	Rude Interruption	1:24.29
26	Rescue Ralley	1:47.24
27	Special Staircase	1:02.18
28	Stepping Up To The Stars	1:51.00
29	Shocking Interruption	2:16.94
30	Overruled	1:02.59
31	Pressure Management	0:53.35

Advanced Training

#	Level Name	Record Time
1	Stepping Up To A Higher Level	1:25.82
2	Bending Bashers	3:10.94
3	Higher Levels Of Wisdom	2:26.24
4	Walking Over Dead Bodies	2:03.24
5	Curse Of The Gold	1:40.29
6	Pharaoh's Turnaround	1:40.35
7	Checkerboard's Crossing	1:56.12
8	Between A Stone And A Hard Place	0:54.65
9	Shimmichanga	1:36.53
10	The Detour	2:24.24
11	Saving Two Lems With One Bomb	1:22.94
12	Stack And Step	1:58.00
13	Jump The Sausage!	1:52.06
14	Welcome To The Sliderdance!	4:24.71
15	Stacker Of The Sky	1:38.59
16	Caught And Released	1:24.24
17	Sorry, Job Already Taken	1:06.47
18	Blocker's Blindside	0:58.53
19	Beam Up The Equipment!	1:18.65
20	A Different Kind Of Space	2:04.53
21	Welcome To The Crystal Maze!	3:12.76
22	Just As He Was About To Fall	0:54.12
23	Edges Of Glory	1:10.29
24	The Fiddler	0:52.53
25	The Fiddler 2: Electric Boogaloo	0:48.82
26	Revenge Of The Fiddler	0:49.35
27	Victory Lap	2:52.29

WillLem's Lemminas

Magical

#	Level	Record Time
1	Welcome The Lemminas	1:31.35
2	We Like To Dig Too	0:15.00
3	Mind The Gap...	1:22.71
4	Lemdon Bridge	2:16.65
5	Lemmina Loop Prevention Service	0:58.35
6	Just Keep Swimming	0:41.29
7	Lemminas Luv M.C. Escher	0:59.53
8	Pyramids of Lem (Under a PepsiCola Sky)	0:56.47
9	Send Them Soaring!	0:38.94
10	Just Shimmy!	0:57.41
11	I'll Go First...	0:58.41
12	Climbing In The Moonlight	0:34.41
13	Believe In Yourself!	0:16.88
14	Lemminas Go Forth	0:48.76
15	A Jumper Would Be Handy!	1:36.65
16	Revenge of the Ice Cream Monster	1:49.29

Sensational

#	Level	Record Time
1	Worra Lorra Lemminas!	2:23.12
2	Dimples	0:46.24
3	Backroute To The Future	0:47.88
4	Pillars of Venus	1:40.41
5	See You On The Other Side	1:41.59
6	Hurry!	1:25.18
7	The Melting Block	0:20.82
8	The Continuum	2:22.82
9	Delaying The Inevitable	1:02.06
10	The Strange Boutique	0:47.18
11	The Refrigerator	1:48.65
12	Falling Forever	0:13.53
13	The Unnecessarily Tall Pillars	2:45.47
14	Race To The Top!	1:11.76
15	Many Jumpers Would Be Handy!	1:57.94
16	Escape From Crystal Mountain	3:25.00

Tricksy

#	Level	Record Time
1	Who's Doing What?	0:38.47
2	Lemmina PepsiCola Research Event	0:58.06
3	The Milkshake Machine	1:39.53
4	Konbanwa Lemmina-san	1:18.65
5	Lemmina Drops	1:25.94
6	Day of the Daredevils! Part III	1:32.71
7	Easy Peasy Lemmina Squeezy	1:13.00
8	Stainless Steel Lemminas	0:31.88
9	POOR WEE CREATURETTES!	1:10.94
10	Down The Rabbit Hole	0:22.65
11	Lemminas Recurring	0:55.41
12	Soda Streams	2:04.94
13	Nessy II	2:42.18
14	No I in Team	0:44.76
15	Just a Second...	0:00.94
16	The Crystal Cobwebs of Mt. Katie	1:27.06

Pandemonium

#	Level	Record Time
1	Lemmina City Steel Facility	1:14.29
2	Milkshake Party	0:59.71
3	Nightmare on Lem Street III	1:15.94
4	Lemgate	1:47.45
5	The Cherry Cola Conundrum	1:44.18
6	L-PoP	0:24.24
7	Falling Forever Part II	0:43.76
8	Staircase to Nowhere III	1:42.59
9	With a Twist of Lemmina Please	0:48.88
10	I'll Just Wait Here, Shall I?	1:44.29
11	Mary Poppins' Land II	2:51.00
12	Erm...	1:22.65
13	Constellations II	2:25.71
14	Save Us	0:37.94
15	Nothing is Impossible	0:39.12
16	Rendezvous at the Mountain Part II	1:22.88

Hi.

I'm trying to speed-solve "DON'T PANIC" from Redux but have encountered a problem. All I did was change the release rate at the start (twice) and dig the pipe with the first lemming. The game crashes as the lemming joins the digger pit.

NeoLemmix has kindly given me a replay after notifying me of this, before restarting the game. I don't understand what seems to be going on. Here's my replay.

As some people may have noticed I've won a contest, but I haven't sent my PM to the host yet because of a concern about the forum's processes. I'm nervous about sending personal information even through private message, because once I send it through there's nothing as far as I know to stop the user from keeping these messages, apart from whether they will delete it or not. What I'm hoping for is some kind of "automatic deletion over time" option for any secure messages. One week for example would be good.

So after looking at climbers and fallers through Clear Physics Mode I've thought of a new object which behaves just like normal buttons: Wall buttons! These are graphically redesigned to look like they're attached to a wall, but they do have advantages: It can prevent backroutes because some solutions may involve climbing up (or falling down) a certain wall, and that's where these buttons come in to play.

I've thought of two different ideas for trigger area placements: One outside the wall (Where climbers will not trigger it but usually possible otherwise) and one inside the wall (where it can only be triggered with climbers). Of course, the length of the area should be no less than two pixels if we want to allow both. I changed the colour of the latter's socket to purple to disguise the two.

It might be a bit late to suggest object ideas, and they technically are redundant to the normal button but I hope these are popular enough to be worth including. I also don't have the trigger areas's coordinates for its nxmo file yet. Thoughts?

Hello everyone.

I've noticed SuperLemmini has received some significant activity within the past few weeks. Well, there are certainly more available levels now than last year! I wonder if there is enough interest to revive the Level Solving Contest? I haven't downloaded this engine for a long time. Post your thoughts below!

The rules as to how this competition is planned to work have been modified specifically for this engine. I've also decided to add geoo's original suggestion for multi- level packs if we need to.

* The engine that must be used is SuperLemmini, because some of its mechanics are noticeably different to NeoLemmix and Lix.
* The aim is simple: Just solve the level; or if there are multiple levels in a pack, solve as many as you can.
* The competitive part is to try and solve it/them within either the fastest time, or the fewest skills. The total Lemmings saved factor could also be prioritised depending on competitive viability. Would a maximum requirement reduce the number of viable solutions to a level?
* I'm not sure if SuperLemmini has an "auto-save level solutions" kind of button, so make sure you save some replays of your efforts!
* The process to submit results is similar to Family Feud. Upload your best replay to the host's personal messages box, not on the thread. Just to remind the guests that you need to be logged in to send PMs.
* The competition's playing phase will be open for let's say two weeks. After a fortnight expires the user's best result will be displayed on a leaderboard.
* If the revival gains popularity the winner of the tournament gets to choose the next level for a competition, or nominate someone else to. Otherwise this would be just for bragging rights.

Below are some example levels off the top of my head which I think are not too hard but have enough variety in the skillset to deserve competition. Once I get SL working then I'll have a look at other packs and expand this list. I also wonder that because this engine doesn't have a related editor, what does everyone use to edit levels in SL?

* Fun 29: Worra lorra lemmings
* Tricky 10: There's a lot of them about
* Tricky 11: Lemmings in the attic

Hi. According to Mike Dailly's blog, it turns out there were four designers involved in designing levels for the game. I'm trying to work out who designed what level. While I might get some of these wrong, having a long detailed look at the blog, there are clues that I'm able to spot in designers' behaviours.

* Mike mentioned that he created the special graphics levels. Also, he sometimes like to make titles of levels that give clues for the player and also some recognisable pictures (Anyone fancy inviting him to this month's Level Design Contest? ).

* Gary created the tutorial levels, but beforehand often use just one terrain piece to create the entire level, and are so minimalist that he was told by his boss to decorate them; the only exception is likely to be "Tightrope City" (Strange, decoration for this level must have been forgotten about entirely). They're so recognisable that I usually remove all the terrain after the exit terrrain piece in the .nxlv file to see if I'm correct.

* Scott's levels aren't recognisable pictures but are generally neatly put together, sometimes with some interesting sounding names in the titles.

* Dave might not have created too many levels, but I notice that there's one designer that doesn't fit into any of these categories. These levels are generally long, loose and quite generic with some kind of obvious challenge and usually have all eight skills involved. The time is usually tight as well. I'm guessing this is a connection between the observations and that Dave created these levels.

Out of the 79 levels introduced in the game, (WAFD I think appears twice in the original packs) here are my predictions, hidden in spoiler tags.

Dave Jones

This should be a doddle!
If at first you don`t succeed..
POOR WEE CREATURES!
How do I dig up the way?

Gary Timmons

Just dig!
Only floaters can survive this
Tailor-made for blockers
Now use miners and climbers
You need bashers this time
A task for blockers and bombers
Builders will help you here
One way digging to freedom
Turn around young lemmings!
Tightrope City
Cascade
I have a cunning plan
Perseverance
Izzie Wizzie lemmings get busy
The ascending pillar scenario
Bomboozal
King of the castle
Follow the leader...
Call in the bomb squad
We all fall down
Down, along, up. In that order
Poles Apart
Last one out is a rotten egg!
The Great Lemming Caper
Stepping Stones
All or Nothing
Save Me

Mike Dailly

The Crankshaft
A Beast of a level
MENACING !!
All the 6`s ........
The Island of the Wicker people
Lost something?
Rainbow Island
Lend a helping hand....
The Prison!
Every Lemming for himself!!!
The Art Gallery
Livin` On The Edge
Upsidedown World
Hunt the Nessy....
What an AWESOME level
Mary Poppins` land
X marks the spot
Walk the web rope
Steel Works
The Boiler Room
It`s hero time!
Curse of the Pharaohs
Pea Soup
The Fast Food Kitchen...
A BeastII of a level
The Steel Mines of Kessel

Scott Johnston

From The Boundary Line
Watch out, there`s traps about
Heaven can wait (we hope!!!!)
Compression Method 1
Tribute to M.C.Escher
Feel the heat!
Come on over to my place
Take a running jump.....
Triple Trouble
The Crossroads
One way or another
Pillars of Hercules
The Far Side
Just a Minute...
And then there were four....
Time to get up!
With a twist of lemming please
Going up.......
Have a nice day!
Just a Minute (Part Two)
Mind the step.....
Rendezvous at the Mountain

WillLem's idea of compiling records onto a single levelpack is an interesting one. I'm going to do one for Redux, because at the moment it is the pack included in the main download after all.

Edit: As suggested by namida, I'm going to put this on hold until next week. I'll keep the topic open but I've de-attached the replays and kept the results (Skills, Time, Lems Saved) safely in my document. If anyone wants to see them during the week then please let me know.

Hi everyone. Something weird has appeared on the forum while browsing with Brave, the web browser I'm now starting to use regularly for my laptop after giving up Mozilla Firefox.

Not sure why the proper images for "No New Posts" are not appearing, but these logos certainly have no place on this forum. Does anyone who use Brave know how this happened, and possibly, how to fix it?

Enjoy the brand new "Lemmings forum".

OK, here's another level I came across during Challenge level testing: Lemming Eater (Genesis 44). Not sure if this has already been discussed or not, but here's the problem:

The starting platform has two small five-pixel walls on either side above and below it. My first intention was to dig the right edge of the platform to contain the others. When the platform is dug and the digger's spot is one pixel away from the terrain on its right, I tried using a basher as an attempt to isolate the worker. Instead of completing the bash, he falls back into the pit. I was quite stunned and just wondering if this is a bug or not. The miner however was a success.

So, I decided to have an experiment on the level "Bitter Lemming", the level that is easy to access on both NL and Lemmix, and has a layout which is similar to that but has larger walls (that can be compressed if need be). I tried the same mid-air basher trick for both versions. The results come out differently depending on the version. On NL, one-pixel-away bashers do work on large walls, but not on small ones; whereas in Lemmix, they work regardless of the wall's size.

Fortunately, the direction of these bashers/miners aren't affected.

Don't know who's still updating this website these days, but this level list has the wrong skills shown on the skill set (And probably the wrong release rates too). I downloaded it to see if this is affecting the file itself, but fortunately this is not the case, as all the correct skills are there.

For example, Jingle Lemming is shown as 25 stackers, rather than 25 bashers.

Right. I hate to mention something I've already mentioned before, but at the moment unfortunately all attachments from around 28 October 2009 and earlier seem to be missing, as I found out on the most read Challenge thread - Skills you can't live without - and because I don't have these files anywhere I don't know how I am able to recover them. Only a few may have appeared on the old Lemmings File Portal, for example some of the 1-minute challenges, but most of them would need to be done from scratch if they can't be recovered.

Within the past few days I've been looking through every post of this challenge, and compiled a list of all the challenge replays that were missed out from posts from 28 October 2009 and earlier. What I'm hoping for is to solve each challenge and restore them inside the numbered reply marked with the # tag. If you can help contribute to any of these then that'd be helpful, but the difficulty ratings of these are in no particular order, and I have to admit, most of them are quite hard indeed.

I had a go at one of them so far, the no basher Tricky 16 challenge, and was able to solve it. I will soon move it (and any other solutions I can find, which I could compress in a zip) to the appropriate reply if nobody objects to this proposal. Replay attached at the bottom of this thread.

Update: All individual challenge topics completed! And most of the Oh No! More Challenges board have been completed too (Although I probably missed a few early on. It's a huge thread. ).