[NeoLemmix] God Save The Queen (8 Levels) [Difficulty: Medium]

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A Lemminas tribute to the late Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, released on Remembrance Sunday during her Platinum Jubilee year (2022), also the final year of her life and reign.

The Queen was the sovereign of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth of Nations for 70 glorious years. She was a source of comfort, hope and stability for many, a dutiful constant in the midst of a rapidly changing world.

She will be sorely missed, and by way of processing my own grief I have decided to put together this mini-pack of levels, complete with music tracks based on some of Elizabeth's favourite music and traditional British melodies often associated with the crown. I've been feeling somewhat patriotic whilst making these, and it's been a lot of fun to pay tribute to the Queen in this way. Whilst there is some sadness weaved into the fabric of this project, there is also considerable joy and ultimately love for this remarkable lady and everything she's done for us over the years.

Enjoy! :lemcat:

Music Credits

All tracks arranged and produced by me using Logic Pro X, composer credits as follows:

GSTQ Track 1 - A medley with elements from Scotland The Brave (composer unknown), Rule Britannia by Thomas Augustine Arne and Pomp and Circumstance March #1: Land of Hope and Glory by Edward Elgar
GSTQ Track 2 - A medley of We'll Meet Again and The White Cliffs Of Dover by Vera Lynn, plus The River Kwai March by Malcolm Arnold
GSTQ Track 3 - Can't Take My Eyes Off You by Andy Williams
GSTQ Track 4 - The British National Anthem aka 'God Save The Queen', shown here at Elizabeth II's 1953 Coronation and again 70 years later at her Platinum Jubilee Pageant, followed by I Vow To Thee, My Country by Gustav Holst

Setting up God Save The Queen:

I've put everything into one zip folder called God Save The Queen which can be extracted directly to the root folder of your copy of NeoLemmix (the extractor will place everything where it should be). However, if you prefer to do these things manually, ensure that you do the following:

Place the contents of the "levels" folder into NeoLemmix>levels
Place the contents of the "music" folder into NeoLemmix>music
Place the contents of the "Replay" folder into NeoLemmix>Replay
Place the contents of the "styles" folder into NeoLemmix>styles (all styles are available via the NeoLemmix Manager, but here they are just in case!)

Recommended settings: NeoLemmix 12.12+ / High Resolution / No Smooth Resampling / Normal Quality Minimap

Please feel free to use any of the content (i.e. music, styles) for your own packs; just remember to credit me if you do.


WillLem

God Save The Queen Records

* = indicates that this record is held by more than one player, or is unbeatable.

These records are correct as of the release of God Save The Queen V1.0. If you wish to submit a record, please make sure you have this version - you can download it here.

#LevelFastest Time (Player)Most Saved (Player)Fewest Total Skills (Player)
1Send Her Victorious2:16.29 (WillLem)70/70 (*)30 (WillLem)
2Happy And Glorious1:11.94 (WillLem)2/2 (*)12 (WillLem)
3Long To Reign Over Us0:31.41 (Armani)79/100 (Armani)6 (Armani)
4God Save The Queen8:44.71 (WillLem)2/2 (*)74 (WillLem)
5Don't Know What You've Got Til It's Gone2:25.24 (WillLem)7/7 (*)35 (WillLem)
6The White Cliffs Of Dover1:44.12 (WillLem)34/30 (kaywhyn)27 (kaywhyn)
7Too Good To Be True2:58.29 (kaywhyn)2/2 (*)32 (kaywhyn)
8End Of An ERa2:18.88 (WillLem)96/96 (*)53 (kaywhyn)


chroda

Thank you for this pack!:thumbsup:
Only one small problem: PIECE electric_trap_01 is missing in styles\willlem_lemminas_tealkingdom\objects and "1_Send_Her_Victorious.nxlv" does not start

WillLem

Quote from: chroda on November 14, 2022, 09:15:32 AM
Thank you for this pack!:thumbsup:
Only one small problem: PIECE electric_trap_01 is missing in styles\willlem_lemminas_tealkingdom\objects and "1_Send_Her_Victorious.nxlv" does not start

You're welcome! :lemcat:

Thank you for flagging this up, I have now added the style to the God Save The Queen download. If you don't want to have to download everything again, you can also get it by using the NeoLemmix styles manager.

kaywhyn

Hi WillLem,

Pack solved and obtained all challenge solutions. Replays attached.

General Feedback

As mentioned in the OP, this pack is in homage to Queen Elizabeth II, who passed away earlier this year after a very long life and 70 years and then some on the throne. Indeed, level 3's challenge solutions have the player save a certain number of lemmings to mark certain milestones, bronze being 25, and two gold talismans of saving 50 and 70. I'm not sure if the save 50 is supposed to be a silver one, considering that 50 years is a silver jubilee. Finally, level 8, the final one of the pack, honors Her Majesty by being a 96-of-everything-level due to being the age that she was when she passed and presenting two images of the Queen as the terrain of the level, along with the crown and the years marking her birth and death.

As with pretty much all of WillLem's packs, the levels are pretty much open-ended for the most part in that you're free to carve your own solution given the lenient skillsets and therefore aren't that difficult if you're not too focused on obtaining the challenge solutions. However, if going for them then the levels are considerably harder. In particular, I consider the save 70 on level 3 the hardest challenge of all to obtain, with probably the normal solutions of either level 5 or level 7 the hardest of the entire pack. Also, I normally am a person who doesn't even go for talismans, but as this is a short 8-level pack I figured why not.

Spoiler

God Save the Queen 1 - Send Her Victorious Nice level to start off the pack. Something tells me it's possible to go for the unlocked exit while obtaining a save all, but I haven't tried it so I honestly don't have a clue if it is.

God Save the Queen 2 - Happy And Glorious Another nice level. The right entrance is certainly harder to keep alive, but it's still not too hard of a level. The gold challenge solution here is a great one! :thumbsup:

God Save the Queen 3 - Long To Reign Over Us Looks very daunting and quite hard due to all hatches being splat ones and only neutrals come out of them, meaning you cannot assign them floaters or any skills to save them. Instead, you must rely on the preplaced normal lemmings to rescue them. The very high RR makes this a considerable challenge and thus it might be a bit hard for its position. However, the nice thing is that if you can get the save 70 solution then you essentially obtain all talismans, as the other ones are save 25 and save 50. I've already noted the save 70 is the hardest challenge in the entire pack to obtain. You have to be super quick and there's pretty much no room for error. I think you pretty much have to assign skills while paused and you already have to do a lot of rapid firing skill assignments at the very start. Therefore, it is an extremely stressful one to do. Once again, if you're not concerned with the challenges, then it's not too hard a level, as you really only need to save 7 neutrals in addition to the preplaced lemmings and the 4 clones.

God Save the Queen 4 - God Save the Queen Indeed, you can think of the neutral Lemmina as a damsel in distress on this level, or as the title suggests, saving the monarch. I must say, I really enjoyed figuring out how to go about obtaining the challenge solution here, as it really forced me to think about where I can save builders whether than have my natural tendency to make me think they need to be used here or there. Certain areas were harder than others as a result, but it's all about knowing when you can substitute some things in place of builders, such as basher/walker staircases.

God Save the Queen 5 - Don't Know What You've Got Til It's Gone The only hard part here was figuring out how to get to the very bottom where you have to dig through the floors. Even once I figured out the stacker to connect the bottom floor with the one above it, the other challenge was keeping everyone safe and not losing anyone. I wonder if the gap can be shortened a bit near the end so that the stackers aren't needed to reach over land. Not to mention that the slider glitch happened here as well.

God Save the Queen 6 - The White Cliffs of Dover Save all FTW! :thumbsup: So, looks like I eclipsed your record there. I really love the use of the lasers to keep everyone safe so they don't drop to their deaths.

God Save the Queen 7 - Too Good To Be True Wow, saving the neutral on time was the most difficult part here! If anything, this level taught me that it's actually faster to cancel platformers with a walker rather than allow her to just platform uninterrupted. However, once you're successful in rescuing her on time, then the rest is easy.

God Save the Queen 8 - End Of An ERa To round off the pack, a very nice any-way-you-want with a 96-of-everything skillset. I'll be honest, and that is I found the no builders challenge very pointless and annoying. However, I realized that I was a big dummy and could had simply platformed all the way across without using the repeated stacking and cancelling to make a platformer bridge :forehead: So, I brought all of this unnecessary stuff on myself.

Overall, I enjoyed this pack despite the short length. Thanks for this, WillLem! :thumbsup: 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

WillLem

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
I'm not sure if the save 50 is supposed to be a silver one, considering that 50 years is a silver jubilee

25 years is the silver jubilee, so that had to be silver, and the save-50 had to be gold. Since there's no platinum talisman, I just did another gold one :lemcat:

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
In particular, I consider the save 70 on level 3 the hardest challenge of all to obtain ... I normally am a person who doesn't even go for talismans, but as this is a short 8-level pack I figured why not.

I'm glad you gave it a go, and managed to achieve them all! :thumbsup:




Feedback comments

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
God Save the Queen 1 - Send Her Victorious ... Something tells me it's possible to go for the unlocked exit while obtaining a save all

It is indeed! The locked exit is actually harder, but you managed it well. I wanted it to make use of the spider's web, which you did.

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
God Save the Queen 2 - Happy And Glorious Another nice level. The right entrance is certainly harder to keep alive, but it's still not too hard of a level. The gold challenge solution here is a great one! :thumbsup:

Thanks! Your gold talisman solution isn't intended, but I like it. However, I'm confused about your silver talisman replay as it does in fact use Walkers... ???

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
God Save the Queen 3 - Long To Reign Over Us ... I've already noted the save 70 is the hardest challenge in the entire pack to obtain. You have to be super quick and there's pretty much no room for error

Your solution is almost identical to mine, maybe it's the only way to save that many. I do wonder if your save-25 solution could be adapted somehow, though. I like your use of Jumper-Climbers to get lems into splatform-building position more quickly. I'll give this a go and post a replay later.

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
God Save the Queen 4 - God Save the Queen ... I really enjoyed figuring out how to go about obtaining the challenge solution here, as it really forced me to think about where I can save builders

Excellent work. You beat my record here, so I'll have to have another go and see if I can get the builder count down even further. And, I'll simply have to beat that time record! ;P

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
God Save the Queen 5 - Don't Know What You've Got Til It's Gone ... I wonder if the gap can be shortened a bit near the end so that the stackers aren't needed to reach over land

The whole point is that you run out of skills with each set of obstacles (hence the title of the level). Using stackers is one way to solve this problem, but there is another way around it as well ;P Nice solution, though. I particularly like the Stacker positioning on the orb at the start to turn the Climber back around.

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
Not to mention that the slider glitch happened here as well.

Which one is that?

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
God Save the Queen 6 - The White Cliffs of Dover Save all FTW! :thumbsup: So, looks like I eclipsed your record there.

Nicely done! I'll keep your name as the record holder until someone else figures out this solution :thumbsup:

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
God Save the Queen 7 - Too Good To Be True Wow, saving the neutral on time was the most difficult part here!

You did great, and set new records across the board! Both of your solutions are more optimal than my own, so I'm going to have to step up my game to try and reclaim the time record ;P

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
God Save the Queen 8 - End Of An ERa I realized that I was a big dummy and could had simply platformed all the way across without using the repeated stacking and cancelling to make a platformer bridge :forehead:

There is another way to do it without having to do any Stacker-cancelling, and to make it slightly less annoying. But yeah, spamming Climbers and Gliders is pretty much the only way to do the gold challenge really. Nice solutions!




Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
Overall, I enjoyed this pack despite the short length. Thanks for this, WillLem! :thumbsup:

You're very welcome! Thanks for playing, I've added your results to the records table :thumbsup:

WillLem

I've finally reached a place of acceptance with the passing of the Queen. I had no idea it would ever affect me as deeply as it has, but there have been a number of other changes going on recently, and what with the general instablity of the world post-COVID, losing her at this point was so much the more devastating. I mean, she was never going to live forever, but still... what a time for it to happen, at least personally, if not nationally, and even globally.

I'm sure Charles will do his best to continue her legacy whilst bringing his own flavour to the British monarchy, as he has waited so long to do so. Long live the King.


kaywhyn

Quote from: WillLem on November 19, 2022, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
I'm not sure if the save 50 is supposed to be a silver one, considering that 50 years is a silver jubilee

25 years is the silver jubilee, so that had to be silver, and the save-50 had to be gold. Since there's no platinum talisman, I just did another gold one :lemcat:

Ah, I keep mixing up these anniversaries :XD: Understandable, perhaps there should be a golsilver or silvgold one or something like that. You know, by combining platinum and gold together :laugh: Actually, should be mixing platinum and gold instead, but well, I can't really find a nice and clever term for it.

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Thanks! Your gold talisman solution isn't intended, but I like it. However, I'm confused about your silver talisman replay as it does in fact use Walkers... ???

Ah, my bad. I checked and it turns out I mislabeled the replays for level 2. The gold one is actually the silver one while the silver one is the gold one. Oops :XD:

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Quote from: kaywhyn on November 16, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
Not to mention that the slider glitch happened here as well.

Which one is that?

It's the one where sliders should go out in the other direction after every drop, no matter how small. In the replay, you can see the slider doing it's dehoister animation indicating that it will go out to the left but it doesn't in this case. Apparently not all slider cases of this have been fixed yet.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

WillLem

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 19, 2022, 10:18:31 PM
it turns out I mislabeled the replays for level 2. The gold one is actually the silver one while the silver one is the gold one. Oops :XD:

Ah, I see! No worries :lemcat:

Quote from: kaywhyn on November 19, 2022, 10:18:31 PM
It's the one where sliders should go out in the other direction after every drop, no matter how small. In the replay, you can see the slider doing it's dehoister animation indicating that it will go out to the left but it doesn't in this case

I've watched the replay again carefully and can't see what you mean tbh...




Meanwhile, set a new record of 8:44.71 for Level 4 - God Save The Queen. I'm sure it can be improved even further, but I'll come back and have another go some other time. Meanwhile, I'm struggling to see how to improve your sub-3 minute record for Level 7 - Too Good To Be True, so you hold the record for now ;P

kaywhyn

Quote from: WillLem on November 19, 2022, 10:43:40 PM
Quote from: kaywhyn on November 19, 2022, 10:18:31 PM
It's the one where sliders should go out in the other direction after every drop, no matter how small. In the replay, you can see the slider doing it's dehoister animation indicating that it will go out to the left but it doesn't in this case

I've watched the replay again carefully and can't see what you mean tbh...

When my worker lemming is done making the path to the exit, he starts the animation to go out to the left, but because the gap is small enough, he doesn't and hence continues towards the exit. The fix from https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5795.0 and https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5826.0 is supposed to make it so that sliders will always go out in the other direction after any drop, no matter how tiny it is. Apparently there's still some cases where they don't, like for level 5
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

Armani

I was so close to save 80 for Long To Reign Over Us but it wasn't enough :XD:
I've beaten few more records and I'll upload the replays after I play through every level ;)
My newest Neolemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 :D 8-)

About Armani: Armani's Blog
My NL level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

WillLem

Quote from: Armani on November 21, 2022, 07:14:06 AM
I was so close to save 80 for Long To Reign Over Us but it wasn't enough :XD:
I've beaten few more records and I'll upload the replays after I play through every level ;)

Fanstatic work! I've updated the records :thumbsup:

We'll keep looking and see if there's a Save-80. It looks like it might be possible, looking at your solution.