Your favorites and most annoying neolemmings tricks to perform

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MASTER-88

I´ll have many favorite tricks.

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But my TOP FAVORITES:

Armani told me i´ll really loved this miner/stoner quick zig trick. Yeah i could to say its one my favorite tricks, just simple perform and cool looking. Another cool tricks are blockout trick (Crane called that trick with this name) Just let blocker turn lemmings direction. Very useful and practical trick nearly everywhere. Used it a lot when solved levels and also my own levels since lemmingsworld (i just not know know this trick when work my custom+ series packs). Also quite easy perform and fun trick. Its also work console lemmings, but are actually useless those levels.

I also like bomb blockers and let them run through the land and avoid used builder. Not know name this trick.

Stacker over stoner trick is another very useful and fun and simple trick to perform Always cool looking and simple.
Also loved 94 RR climber trick and those variations. This trick is sharp, but guaranetee work 94 RR.

Another and maybe my most favorite trick is miner/cloner/bomber combination trick. Its very rarery need use anywhere. This trick is heck cool and also accident find when work Crane pack some years ago.

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Here is my TOP MOST ANNOYING
I´ll personally really dislike this trick when one bomber have to break two blockers and turn all lemmings same direction. I am used it few my levels, but perform this trick always caused me much headache. Its requires some RR drops and rise let this your single lemmings could perform this bomb. If i´ll smell this trick some custom levels. I just wanted be sure its only option before goes make this setup. Im not really like perform this trick. its very confused and complicated.

Another very annoying, but very useful some places are this basher/blocker cancel trick. There is no way manipulate this trick used release rate. You will need better group. Its not too hard to perform when you have big group lemmings. But manipulate this trick some situations when we not have any setups are super tedious. I´ll actually accident find this trick when i work my Oh yeah more lemmings pack. I also figured out there was many other persons who not know this trick. Then i not have any traings levels to show. Yes make traing level Lemmingsworld 1.01 version and same level are my amiga pack 2.

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If you like practice few those trick with free and easy setup without difficult things. You can play those levels.

Miner/cloner/bomb combination trick is another super fun trick and here is perfect training level where to practice it.

add those two zip if you want training few those tricks.

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QuoteHere is my TOP MOST ANNOYING
I´ll personally really dislike this trick when one bomber have to break two blockers and turn all lemmings same direction. I am used it few my levels, but perform this trick always caused me much headache. Its requires some RR drops and rise let this your single lemmings could perform this bomb. If i´ll smell this trick some custom levels. I just wanted be sure its only option before goes make this setup. Im not really like perform this trick. its very confused and complicated.

Here I have relief for you!  ;)

This is actually an easy trick to pull off if you know how.

You do not need to drop and rise the RR for this. (It can even be locked  ;))
Place the blockers as close together as you can.
After the blockers are set-up just crank up the RR to an uneven number. It doesn't even need to be 99 just uneven (I locked the RR to 85 in one of my levels.)
The RR just needs to be at a level that all lemmings fall into the same walk cycle inside the blocker trap - so all lemmings facing the same direction.
That should be the case at any uneven number in a extremely close blocker trap.

Then you just need to choose the direction the crowd walks out after the bomb goes off -> This will be the same direction as the lemmings at the moment you assign the releasing bomber to.

And that's all.  :)

I agree on the basher/blocker cancel trick though!

Guigui

Thank you for the interesting post, and levels going with them MASTER-88. They can definitely come in handy.

Thanks also to IchoTolot for explaining an easy way to do the "release all lemmings on one side from a double blocker trap". This has everything to do with the magic of odd/even number, Z/2Z for the mathematician among us :  1+0=0, 1+1=0 and so on.

I'm adding on of my favorite trick : prevent climbers from climbing a wall by putting some platform/builder/stacker brick against it.

On the list of most annoying is of course the basher/blocker cancel trick,  and the miners cancelling each other trick.

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MASTER-88

QuoteAfter the blockers are set-up just crank up the RR to an uneven number. It doesn't even need to be 99 just uneven (I locked the RR to 85 in one of my levels.)
The RR just needs to be at a level that all lemmings fall into the same walk cycle inside the blocker trap - so all lemmings facing the same direction.
That should be the case at any uneven number in a extremely close blocker trap.

Thats news to me. ??? 

Okay i have to practice that. :P  Tested RR 85, but im not got correct setup without raise RR anypoints. Expect if i set floater last lemming right before its goes hit land. Then this setup goes correct locked RR like 85.

Damn this is weird trick. :P
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MASTER-88

Okay im not cannot got this trick done with locked releaserate only and without wasting any skills. Its requires me drop RR one point or alternate give floater let me correct setup use bomb.

How ever This video contains Armani replay, where he got this bomb/blocker trick 99 locked releaserate. How ever i cannot got hit that middle lemmings, its not give me any contact. Did i´ll miss some Neolemmings tools? Because i cannot perform it even Armani setup.

Let make show video in youtube. Show Armani locked releaserate setup and i´ll attempt it with this, but its not give contact. I can only make this trick when drop releaserate or let floater lastlemming. Then its will give me correct setup


Thats still mystery for me. This Armani replay is over 3 years old.. He really can make this trick with locked releaserate, but i can´t

What i did error myself?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-7FiIpi0s
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Armani

@MASTER-88

When multiple lemmings are crammed into a small area, NL prioritize lemmings with permanent skills and blockers over normal lemmings. If multiple lemmings belong to the same category the one that spawned last gets priority. This explains why you managed to pull off the trick by assigning a floater to one of the walking lemmings.
The easiest way to pull off this trick is to use the select walking lemming hotkey. This allows you to pinpoint the walking lemming you want to assign the bomber skill to. ;)


Whether the release rate is locked or not isn't really an issue here. lemmings spawned at any release rate will bunch up perfectly as long as their respective release rates have the same parity(both odd or both even)

So if you take full advantage of this behavior, you can switch the release rate between odd and even numbers to micromanage exactly how many lemmings(and which ones, in terms of their spawn number) go to the left with the rest going to the right. (However as you pointed out in the main post, constantly increasing and decreasing the release rate gets annoying very quickly. That's why I only made the level for experimental purposes and never released it.:lix-evil:)




Anyway back to the main topic...

I generally prefer levels that don't rely on tricks at all and instead focus on sequence and logic. My favorite type of level is one that revolves around skill placement and creative combinations of basic skills. That said I agree that levels with cool tricks can sometimes be a nice way to spice things up :)  and they're always satisfying to watch when pulled off successfully.

Here are a few tricks I particularly like (thanks to IchoTolot for the YouTube links! 8-) ):

Dead Lems Society
https://youtu.be/iUPdoGmMPE8?si=L0y6IrYiOMovj84-&t=54

Slip 'N Slide
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Wish Upon a Shooting Star
https://youtu.be/BbHXbkS3zG8?si=bQa4sGk5PGY0xvY5&t=130

I'm also excited to share some new tricks once my upcoming pack is ready! Most of them involve NeoLemmix exclucive skills but some are done entirely with the original skills.(Stay tuned! xD)
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  Xmas Lemmings 2021
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MASTER-88

This goes little bit off topic rightknow. But this stuff is just very news to me.

QuoteThe easiest way to pull off this trick is to use the select walking lemming hotkey. This allows you to pinpoint the walking lemming you want to assign the bomber skill to. ;)


Whether the release rate is locked or not isn't really an issue here. lemmings spawned at any release rate will bunch up perfectly as long as their respective release rates have the same parity(both odd or both even)

That explain a lot why i cannot perform it.  :P

Where i can find this walking lemming hotkey? which help me perform this style tricks in future? I´ll need some picture or video tutorials with this. Rightnow my neolemmings knowledge is not enough perfectly understand how i can make this in practice. :P

If you or someonelse neolemmings expert have video or picture stuff to help i´ll appreciate it. You can also send those PM with me. ;)

Until then i´ll just hope im not got against such type custom levels which requires perform this trick with locked releaserate and without extra tools to help me. :P
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kaywhyn

Quote from: MASTER-88 on Today at 07:36:36 AMWhere i can find this walking lemming hotkey?

Depends on the keyboard layout you picked for NL. If you're using Traditional for example, then the walker select key is ctrl (both left ctrl and right ctrl work). By holding down the ctrl key, you'll be able to bypass the selection priority and be able to select only Lemmings that are walking.

To see what the hotkeys are, press F3/click on Settings/Options on the NL main menu, go to the General tab, and click on Configure Hotkeys. The one you're looking for is "Select Walking Lemming." There it will tell you the hotkey to its left. Note that you can customize the hotkey to any other one you like, so if you don't like the default ctrl key for the Traditional layout, you can set it to something else.

There are also two other layouts you can pick from, Functional or Minimal, so this means the layout you initially picked isn't permanent.

For this trick you can't get to work, a good level to practice this on is Saving Two Lems With One Bomb from the Advanced Training rank of the NeoLemmix Introduction Pack. The pre-text even explains how to do the trick ;)

As for tricks I don't like, agree with the basher/blocker one, and I'll also add the stacker/basher one to make a step in it as another one I dislike. It's far easier to use a miner for this purpose! :P