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[NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« on: December 24, 2021, 02:40:19 PM »
Merry Christmas everyone! Welcome to my second Neolemmix level pack! :D


(They are Lemming&Lemmina :lemcat:)

I’ve made a holiday pack to celebrate the 30th Christmas in Lemmingland.
It's a small pack of 30(+1 credits level) levels across three ranks: Retro, Avant-garde, Bonus



1.) Download Links(Dropbox):

Level Pack: Xmas Lemmings 2021 V1.3
Music: Xmas Lemmings 2021 Music
Intended Solution Replays: Solution Replays

This pack has all the music files in the subfolder “Xmas2021”. So do not manually move the music files into the main music folder!
The only thing you have to do yourself is to extract them into your main NeoLemmix folder.



2.) Ranks

This pack is divided into 3 ranks:


1. Retro (Easy-Hard)(12levels)

 Retro rank levels primarily use Snow(OhNo) and Snow(Raymanni) tilesets and take some decorations from various other styles.
 It starts with lighter puzzles and X-of everything levels and gradually enters harder territory.
 All levels feature classic 8 skills only and some occasional Neolemmix objects such as pre-assigned hatch.


Retro3 Snowy Wish – Wishing you peace, health, happiness and prosperity in the coming year.


Retro9 Rendezvous at the Cavern – A secret rendezvous in the cavern...


2.Avant-garde (Easy-Hard)(12main levels + 1credits level)

 Avant-garde rank mainly uses Snow(OhNo) & Snow(Raymanni) tilesets too.
 The difficulty resets to [Easy] once you finish the retro rank and start Avant-garde rank.
 This rank features all 21 Neolemmix skills including slider and laserer.


Avant-garde2 Meanwhile in Namidaland – Christmas comes in the middle of the summer in Namidaland!


Avant-garde8 Last Shepherd of the Dead - Put them out of their misery before Christmas is over...


3. Bonus (Very Hard)(6levels)

 These levels are for those who want extra challenge! :evil::devil:
 They were originally in either Retro rank or Avant-garde rank.
 Based on the feedbacks from the pre-testers, I gathered the 3 hardest levels from each rank and separated them to this Bonus rank.


Bonus1 Lemming Entanglement - Is quantum entanglement the key to teleportation?



3.) Music Credits:

List of music (click to show/hide)



4.) Thanks to:

 - Massive thanks to joshescue18, NieSch and kaywhyn for pre-release testing! Just say the word if there's anything I can do to help you. I’m always here. 8-)
 - Namida for creating and maintaining Neolemmix :thumbsup:
 - Lemmings Forum community for general support :laugh:
 - All of you for playing my pack. :thumbsup:


5.) External Links:

Xmas Lemmings 2021 Level Solving Commentary by kaywhyn : Youtube Link
Swerdis's playthrough of Xmas Lemmings 2021:
  Retro rank - Youtube Link
  Avant-garde rank - Youtube Link
  Bonus rank - Youtube Link

Enjoy and happy Christmas :lemcat:
« Last Edit: September 20, 2023, 07:19:52 PM by Armani »
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2021, 02:57:35 PM »
This is a great Xmas pack that I can really recommend, also to non-expert players (like myself). Armani's creativity in level design is awesome and this pack is yet another example of it. :)

Congrats on the release and merry Xmas!


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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2022, 10:24:42 PM »
Thank you for the pack! It is really nice, the difficulty of levels in "Retro" was just right for me :).

Also, I have a huge sentiment for the xmas packs (with snow etc.), cause as a child I would play Lemmings during xmas a lot:)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2022, 10:40:25 PM »
Thanks for playing :thumbsup:
If you need any hints or solution replays, let me know ;)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2022, 10:35:22 PM »
Thanks a lot for the great, creative and climatic pack :) I'm currently at Avant-Garde Ice climbing. So far the hardest for me was Retro ("and there were four again!") - it took me a few of evenings to figure it out :).

It could be interesting to exchange solutions to the retro set. I would be interested if I took any backroutes :)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2022, 08:26:34 AM »
It could be interesting to exchange solutions to the retro set. I would be interested if I took any backroutes :)

Here're the replays of the Retro rank(see attachment ;))

For Avant-garde5 Ice Climbing,
hints (click to show/hide)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2022, 03:26:39 PM »
Excellent, I reviewed your replays and I want to share my solutions to two levels in retro which appear backroute-ish, especially for "Randevous .." :)

Currently, I'm at "Last Shepard of the Dead", but expect to do more this weekend :) Please maybe share your solutions to Avant-Garde so that we can compare once I complete it :)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2022, 04:09:10 AM »
Cool! 8-)

Your solution to Retro9 is a backroute. There'll be an update sooner or later. I will probably add an ice blower to the icicle above the hatch.
Your solution to Retro8 is acceptable. ;)

Even if you don't complete the whole rank it's totally fine to ask me hints or replays. Good luck with the rest of the levels! From the feedback I've got, Avant-garde8 is not too bad and Avant-garde9 & 10 are pretty difficult.
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2022, 06:09:11 AM »
V1.1 is out! ;)

Level fix:
-1 09 Rendezvous at the Cavern - added an ice blower
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2022, 01:33:43 AM »
I've started playing this and have so far completed the Retro ran (replays attached).

So far, wow there are some brilliant levels in this pack :thumbsup:! Also the background art & theming is beatuful too - excellent job on this.

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I'm not sure quite how well I'll manage on the last Bonus rank when I get there, but i'll give them a good try!
« Last Edit: March 15, 2022, 01:45:18 AM by Apjjm »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2022, 12:54:10 PM »
Thanks for playing my pack :thumbsup:
All your solutions so far are either intended or acceptable!

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Good luck with the second rank!
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2022, 12:55:21 PM »
I uploaded the intended solution replays. (with some alternative soutions from pre-testers :D thank you all!)
Check the main thread above!
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2022, 12:42:29 AM »
I completed the 2nd rank tonight - some more excellent levels great job Armani!

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Only the bonus left to go :scared:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2022, 02:13:05 PM »
Again, all your solutions are either intended or acceptable. Well done!

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Good luck with the Bonus rank! :laugh:
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2022, 11:24:57 PM »
I made a start on the bonus rank and have got a solve for the first 3 levels. I am going to try the next 3 either tomorrow or friday. On two of the levels I had some very close solutions which didn't quite work - so have included a couple of extra replays too as you might be interested to see things I tried which almost worked.

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My Level Packs: Quartet

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2022, 09:12:58 PM »
Finished the bonus rank and the pack :thumbsup:

Comments on the rest of the bonus levels:
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Overall an incredible pack and absolutely would recommend others to play this (even if it isn't christmas)! There are some really stand-out puzzles with a great variety in how they are solved.
I think the easy-hard rating is a fair description of the dificulty for the first two ranks which have a fairly balanced difficulty curve too. I found avant-garde to be a bit harder than retro overall, but I am better at solving classic skills levels so that might just be me. The Bonus rank marks a step up in difficulty over the first two ranks and is fair to call very hard - I found Bonus 1 & 6 to the hardest of the rank, so the difficulty here I guess really depends what you get stuck on.

Finally, great job again on the menu graphics and a nice selection of music too. This really was a very fun pack to play!
My Level Packs: Quartet

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2022, 10:31:49 AM »
Congraulations! and thanks for playing :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2022, 10:34:15 AM »
V1.2 is out! ;)

Level fix:
-3 03 Hold My Beer... - added some steels(at the third room)
-3 04 Prerequisite: Advanced Fluid Mechanics - added an ice blower
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2022, 07:31:23 AM »
Hi Armani,

I have finally finished solving all of the pack, picking up where I left off from the pre-testing days, solving everything except for Avant-garde 10 and all 6 Bonus levels. Here are my replays, and some feedback on the Retro level that wasn't included before release, as well as the rest of the feedback I didn't give. For the ones I already gave feedback, I'm just going to copy-paste :P

Retro Rank Feedback

Nice rank where the levels use only the classic 8 skills. A lot of nice puzzles here.

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Avant-garde Rank Feedback

Now we add the NL skills as well. Once again, I was able to solve everything except for Avant Garde 10 edit: I was able to solve it, I went about the level completely wrong. If only I had another walker :laugh:

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Bonus Rank Feedback

The 6 levels here, as Armani described in the OP, are simply the 3 hardest levels from both the Retro and Avant-garde ranks. Indeed, these are all quite difficult, although I thought both Bonus 4 and Bonus 5 were the easiest of the rank :P

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All rightie, thank goodness I finally got through the pack, even if it took me 3 months after release to solve the remaining 8 levels (7 that were part of the second patch, one new level (Retro 8) that was released to the public and not during pre-testing. The pack's definitely nowhere near as hard as Uncharted, but there's still a lot of very hard nuts here! Thus, you somewhat achieved your goal of a lower difficulty with this pack, but I would warn others that it's not a whole lot lower :P Looks like you got carried away with the hard puzzles :laugh: Even then, this is still a great pack that I, as one of the pre-testers, can recommend others to play, with the understanding that it won't be a very quick solve, as a lot of levels still have a lot of bite to them here. Then again, a lot of my sour tone with the pack came about due to how I was under a lot of self-inflicted stress and pressure from finishing my LWT LP before the end of 2021, so there's that too :XD:

Thanks again for this Christmas pack, Armani, and I'm hoping to record a level solving commentary video series for this soon :)
« Last Edit: March 27, 2022, 09:19:46 AM by kaywhyn »
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2022, 05:55:52 AM »
Everything intended or acceptable :thumbsup:

I think I already responded to most of your solutions so I will only respond to the new replays ;)
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Thanks again for playing :thumbsup: and I added your solutions to bonus2 and 3 to the replay pack! So there're now 4 alternative solutions from you in the replay pack ;)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2023, 05:32:39 PM »
I finally played through the pack. :)

I don't think I hit any major backroutes, but let's see.

Replays are attached!

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2023, 04:31:54 AM »
@IchoTolot
Thanks for playing :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Bonus1 is a backroute.
Your solution to Retro8, Bonus2 and Bonus3 are acceptable variance. You were slightly more effcient on them :thumbsup:
All others are exactly intended :thumbsup:

I attached the fixed version of Bonus1 below! I will update the main topic once the level is confirmed solid ;)


update on Bonus1 Lemming Entanglement
 - swapped the positions of the pick-ups(climber->builder, blocker->climber, builder->blocker)
 -1blocker, +1climber
(The intended solution remains unchanged and none of the submitted replays will be broken)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2023, 01:46:14 PM »
Here is my resolve. :)

Still seems a bit suspicious.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Difficulty: Easy-Very Hard]
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2023, 07:22:26 PM »
That's intended :thumbsup:
I updated the main topic as well!



V1.3 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-3 01 Lemming Entanglement -  swapped the positions of the pick-ups, -1blocker, +1climber
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0