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Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems [Difficulty: Medium-Hard]
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2021, 11:28:16 AM »
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Having said this, I'm in complete agreement that Murder 9 should be moved up again, up to the Rapture rank.

I don't know who you're in agreement with, because the only other person playing this pack, as of recently, was me. ;) And I certainly don't think this level should go higher! :P

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Rapture 3 definitely got me quite upset with myself and I had contemplated leaving the community due to feeling worthless if I couldn't solve the level.

So you were beating yourself up over not being able to solve a level that an estimated 80% of the forum members have never even attempted, because they haven't gotten that far into the pack in the first place? ;)

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Now that I've gotten through the 6 main ranks of the pack, I got to say that overall the Murder rank is harder than Rapture. There were way more Murder levels that were harder for me. A lot of Rapture levels are hard due to a lot of extreme precision needed. Then again, I felt I overcomplicated a lot of the solutions.

That gives me hope for the last 5-6 levels of Rapture, I should probably attempt them again soon... 8-)
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Lemmings Open Air, my newest release and follow-up to World Tour, 120 levels
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems [Difficulty: Medium-Hard]
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2021, 08:30:14 PM »
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Having said this, I'm in complete agreement that Murder 9 should be moved up again, up to the Rapture rank.

I don't know who you're in agreement with, because the only other person playing this pack, as of recently, was me. ;) And I certainly don't think this level should go higher! :P

Have you considered the fact that some people post only after they finish an entire rank or even the entire pack? Or even not at all? I have been told there are some other people who are currently playing through the pack, although probably not as fast as I am or they're going through other packs in the meantime because SEB Lems is stumping them badly. Indeed, this pack even had me trembling, and you already know that I'm considered one of the more adept solvers in this community.

You totally underestimate the difficulty of Murder 9. You likely have not seen the videos where I really struggled with this level. If anything, if it does end up going into the Rapture rank it should probably be in the early part of the ranking, as some of the Rapture levels are quite easy for their position.

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Rapture 3 definitely got me quite upset with myself and I had contemplated leaving the community due to feeling worthless if I couldn't solve the level.

So you were beating yourself up over not being able to solve a level that an estimated 80% of the forum members have never even attempted, because they haven't gotten that far into the pack in the first place? ;)

Some levels have that effect of making me feel bad about myself as a solver. Rapture 3 was one of them. It sent me into a depression that was a bigger deal than it needed to be, where it got so bad to the point that I was thinking of leaving the community and never showing my face again. Again, it was more due to not used to being very stumped and how I didn't mind the getting very badly stumped at first, but after some time in the same pack it wasn't really funny anymore with me making a fool of myself on-camera. Once more, I say a psychological thing is at work here, where I acknowledge that solving well and recording yourself solving on camera are both difficult to do well! I'm aware of what I signed up for since day 1 of LPing packs. Honestly, you should try putting yourself in that position and give it a go and you'll see. In any case, taking a week break from the game and playing other non-Lemmings games in the meantime really helped me get myself out of my slump, and I returned a lot sooner than I thought I would. So really, I stand by what I said and it was really me being too hard on myself. I have a bad tendency to doubt myself a lot, just so you know!

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Now that I've gotten through the 6 main ranks of the pack, I got to say that overall the Murder rank is harder than Rapture. There were way more Murder levels that were harder for me. A lot of Rapture levels are hard due to a lot of extreme precision needed. Then again, I felt I overcomplicated a lot of the solutions.

That gives me hope for the last 5-6 levels of Rapture, I should probably attempt them again soon... 8-)

My assessment of the final 6 levels:

15 - Somewhat difficult. I thought it was going to be really hard since it gives a lot of stackers and I'm generally really bad with such levels, but it wasn't as bad as I thought. Really you can say these are hard for kaywhyn levels :crylaugh:
16 - Easy
17 - Easy as well even though I struggled with it longer than I needed to but that's because I thought of the solution the wrong way
18 - Somewhat difficult, but it's not too hard. I'm pretty sure my solution is a backroute, and mine nearly fails anyway. I don't think there's much that Flopsy can do to block it, though
19 - Very hard, although here I really overcomplicated mine. It can be easy as long as you know what you're doing :crylaugh:
20 - Definitely nowhere near the hardest level of the main pack. It's somewhat challenging, but it's quite easy for the most part. At least when you're doing the normal solution. The talisman solution is considerably harder, and I ironically went for it even though I stated in the video that I wouldn't! :crylaugh:

As for 14, as you have seen the starting area is very hard to do. And yes, it's supposed to be very precise. Interestingly enough, I was able to figure it out and after solving it I compared my solution to Icho's, and it turns out we did the starting area the exact same way. Once you are successful in getting it to work, the rest is quite easy, although the tight timer doesn't really help matters. I assure you, it's really not as bad as you're making it out to be! :P 

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems [Difficulty: Medium-Hard]
« Reply #92 on: January 15, 2021, 06:01:20 PM »
I already solved Rapture 14 a while ago, but I haven't made any further progress since then.
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Lemmings Open Air, my newest release and follow-up to World Tour, 120 levels
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems [Difficulty: Medium-Hard]
« Reply #93 on: January 15, 2021, 06:47:36 PM »
Does that mean you're currently struggling with Rapture 15? :P

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems [Difficulty: Medium-Hard]
« Reply #94 on: January 15, 2021, 07:09:27 PM »
I haven't been playing SEB Lems for a while, that's what it means ;) .
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Lemmings Open Air, my newest release and follow-up to World Tour, 120 levels
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels