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Offline Pooty

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2019, 11:48:58 pm »
3D Lemmings: Fun 14 has been improved to 74 via a hidden route. Please see attached screenshot.
SEGA Master System version
100% on 110/120 levels (92%). Other levels [Lemmings lost]:
Fun 03 [3], 06 [2], 18 [5]   
Taxing 19 [5], 27 [1], 28 [3]
Tricky 15 [5], 17 [2]
Mayhem 19 [7], 26 [10]

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #91 on: July 14, 2019, 04:07:18 am »
Well, that was certainly unexpected!  "Hidden" is definitely the right word for that route!  I guess having a level editor does help expose some hidden level features.  I certainly wouldn't have thought to look over there for hidden non-ice blocks.

On that note, here's a slightly less unexpected improvement to Level 51 (Chaos Maze): 77/80.  No hidden features here - just an embarrassing oversight of a blatantly obvious backroute.
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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #92 on: July 14, 2019, 04:23:50 am »
Well, that was certainly unexpected!  "Hidden" is definitely the right word for that route!  I guess having a level editor does help expose some hidden level features.  I certainly wouldn't have thought to look over there for hidden non-ice blocks.

On that note, here's a slightly less unexpected improvement to Level 51 (Chaos Maze): 77/80.  No hidden features here - just an embarrassing oversight of a blatantly obvious backroute.

Saving 76 with that route is trivial, but saving 77 seems to require a bit of tricky timing, so here's a replay that shows how to do it.

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #93 on: July 14, 2019, 04:42:56 am »
Yep, that's not the first time I've used that trick to squeeze out an extra lemming.  The records for "Land Ahoy" and "It's the Name of the Game" also involve the same general idea to separate the worker from the crowd.

Speaking of L3D records, if anyone wants hints/solutions for any of them, I can provide them upon request.

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #94 on: July 15, 2019, 05:49:39 am »
Another L3D improvement:

Level 35 (Chocolate Drop): 76/80 -- Basically this is the same backroute as the 75/80 solution, but with some precise maneuvers and a release rate change to get the lemmings spaced optimally.  Be warned that the timing on this is incredibly tight, and a couple of assignments need to be done at precise moments.

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #95 on: July 15, 2019, 03:19:58 pm »
3D Lemmings: Fun 10 has been improved to 20/20 (100%). I have uploaded a video of the solution here, and an explanation below.

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« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 03:36:06 pm by Pooty »
SEGA Master System version
100% on 110/120 levels (92%). Other levels [Lemmings lost]:
Fun 03 [3], 06 [2], 18 [5]   
Taxing 19 [5], 27 [1], 28 [3]
Tricky 15 [5], 17 [2]
Mayhem 19 [7], 26 [10]

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #96 on: July 21, 2019, 01:26:23 am »
3D Lemmings: Taxing 06 (Level 46: Ricochet) has been improved to 37/40. Here's a video of the solution.

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« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 01:37:16 am by Pooty »
SEGA Master System version
100% on 110/120 levels (92%). Other levels [Lemmings lost]:
Fun 03 [3], 06 [2], 18 [5]   
Taxing 19 [5], 27 [1], 28 [3]
Tricky 15 [5], 17 [2]
Mayhem 19 [7], 26 [10]

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #97 on: July 23, 2019, 02:23:18 am »
3D Lemmings: Taxing 18 (Level 58: Snake) has been improved to 56/80.

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SEGA Master System version
100% on 110/120 levels (92%). Other levels [Lemmings lost]:
Fun 03 [3], 06 [2], 18 [5]   
Taxing 19 [5], 27 [1], 28 [3]
Tricky 15 [5], 17 [2]
Mayhem 19 [7], 26 [10]

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #98 on: July 24, 2019, 04:41:40 am »
^ I can't believe I've had L3D for over 20 years and never came up with that idea.  I could have sworn that drop was a splat fall without the bomber, but it looks like it's just barely survivable.

Good catch! :thumbsup:

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #99 on: July 24, 2019, 09:16:33 am »
Did anyone try to save the maximum rodents in Atari Lynx Lemmings? I am planning to do it, if there is not a WIP challenge in this port by another user :thumbsup:

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #100 on: July 25, 2019, 04:14:29 am »
Pooty's improvement to L3D Level 58 (Snake) inspired me to take another look at that level.  A bit of lateral thinking ended up yielding another solution that saves 60/80.

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #101 on: August 09, 2019, 01:07:48 am »
L3D Level 72 (Raiders of the Lost Lemming) has been improved to 35/40 (previously 33/40).

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #102 on: August 10, 2019, 07:43:44 pm »
3D Lemmings: Taxing 18 (Level 58: Snake) has been improved to 67/80.

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SEGA Master System version
100% on 110/120 levels (92%). Other levels [Lemmings lost]:
Fun 03 [3], 06 [2], 18 [5]   
Taxing 19 [5], 27 [1], 28 [3]
Tricky 15 [5], 17 [2]
Mayhem 19 [7], 26 [10]

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #103 on: August 10, 2019, 10:06:09 pm »
Congratulations, Pooty, you may have just achieved the most annoying max-% solution to execute in the history of Lemmings!  ;P  I used to think the bomber timing for max-% in Havoc 20 of ONML was rough, but this takes it to a whole new level.  I just got it to work myself, and I guarantee I never would have gotten it without the built-in auto-replay feature.

Good job finding (and executing) that one! :thumbsup:

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Re: Maximum Lemmings Saved Records
« Reply #104 on: August 10, 2019, 10:40:08 pm »
Improved to save 68 save 69. For the purpose of the skills you can't live without, this also improves to 4 turners.

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