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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2009, 06:32:05 PM »
No, that's just using diggers to do what they're designed to do (remove terrain). Doesn't the Taxing 22 solution referred to use the direct drop glitch?

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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2009, 06:38:00 PM »
Here's a 92% savings replay of Mayhem 30, using only builders and bashers.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2009, 06:59:40 PM »
This is my replay of Taxing 22 with only diggers and builders. No glitches.

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« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2009, 08:10:13 PM »
I did Tricky 11 with builders and bashers, builders and miners, builders and diggers and builders and bombers. I 'm stuggling getting it to work with climbers and bombers though since I remember Proxima saying "Tricky 11 can be done with no builders at all!"

I also did Floaters and Builders to Tricky 12.
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2009, 08:16:35 PM »
My guess with the Tricky 11 no-builders solution is you craft a steep staircase with diggers. If that's the case, you'll need no fewer than 4 different skills to make it work (Climber, Bomber, Basher, Digger), which isn't good for this challenge.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2009, 08:24:36 PM »
Well, maybe not, but maybe I should look over my notes in "Guides on designing harder levels".

Oh, hang on, I have just realised something, using climbers and bombers in Tricky 11 is impossible because you only have to lose 8 lemmings. I was thinking of the first 2 bombers to break the first wall, and the final bomber to break the last wall and the others make a steep hidden staircase, but it doesn't work with 5.  :(
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2009, 08:36:02 PM »
I did Tricky 11 with builders and bashers, builders and miners, builders and diggers and builders and bombers. I 'm stuggling getting it to work with climbers and bombers though since I remember Proxima saying "Tricky 11 can be done with no builders at all!"

I also did Floaters and Builders to Tricky 12.

One of my custom levels is, in essence, a 0 builder Tricky 11 solve. You get one builder but if I remember there's no blockers so you have to use it for crowd control on the right. And yea, it's not nearly as good a solution for this challenge as the standard builder/basher one.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2009, 08:58:21 PM »
Ahh yes, I know that. :)

And also, I didn't realise Proxima posted results for some Tricky levels either. I'll bring the link to it now.

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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2009, 09:17:25 PM »
Taxing 26 can be completed with just builders and miners. 100% may be possible but I'm not sure. Scratch that, 100% is definitely possible  :thumbsup:

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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2009, 06:46:38 AM »
It's obvious that Tricky 24 works with blockers and builders. No replay, as it fits with the standard solution.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2009, 10:58:54 AM »
Here's a 92% savings replay of Mayhem 30, using only builders and bashers.

You saved me a lot of work there. Thanks, and well done :thumbsup:

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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2009, 05:20:18 PM »
Here's a 92% savings replay of Mayhem 30, using only builders and bashers.

You saved me a lot of work there. Thanks, and well done :thumbsup:

You're welcome :)

This might be a bit obvious, but if Mayhem 30 had more builders, it could be done only with builders :P
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2009, 06:49:47 PM »
Well, I see the first page has been updated at last, but there are still a few errors.

* No solutions for Tricky 10? I found two: blockers+builders and builders+diggers (100%).
* Tricky 11 builders+diggers is 100%
* Tricky 12 floaters+builders is listed as a glitch. Nope, you have 50 floaters so you don't need direct drop.
* Tricky 19 is 100% (the level requires it)
* Mayhem 29 still says builders+bashers+diggers. I'm not sure whether this is a misreading of my solution (blockers+builders+diggers) or a separate solution; if the latter, both should be listed.

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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2009, 05:35:29 AM »
Sorry, fixed.
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Re: Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with
« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2009, 06:34:15 PM »
Just to let you know that I love Hail 3! I did it in bashers and builders, although I'm not so sure it works with miners and builders, even though the skills are so generous.
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