Quote from: Simon on July 22, 2026, 04:17:27 PMI recommend that you keep the default that airclicks cut the global future.

This seems to be the consensus, so yeah let's keep this as the default. It's what users have come to expect anyway, particularly those that don't use insert mode.

I almost exclusively use insert mode, so I would toggle the option off. Here's why:

Quote from: Simon on July 22, 2026, 04:17:27 PMThe default shouldn't remove a useful shortcut (global-future-cutting air click) that does no damage for them: They won't LMB into the map for other reasons.

Not so! There is at least one more reason to airclick, and that is to advance gameplay by 1 frame whilst paused. Sometimes, this is done after rewinding, and with no intention to erase the global future. This is one of the main reasons I engage insert mode, and don't want airclicks to cut the replay.

I strongly suspect that those who don't sympathise with this only use either non-mouse hotkeys or the dedicated panel buttons to framestep.

Quote from: IchoTolot on July 22, 2026, 05:37:37 PM- For shorter and medium sections: I often rather just replay the section than using the blue "R" as I tend to play faster than I editing the history by now.
- For longer sections I do use the blue "R", which is only a minority of levels though.

Would you mind always having to airclick to cancel the replay? (i.e. the proposed 'single replay mode' would no longer cut the global future on lem assigments or RR changes).

Note that airclick-to-cancel is staying, and will be default behaviour (just to be clear).

Quote from: Guigui on July 22, 2026, 09:13:44 PMNever tried insert replay though, mainly because I do not even know how to trigger it.

This is probably the main reason it should be a single mode. Users should get the benefit of NeoLemmix's replay editing capabilities whether or not they know the hotkeys.

Quote from: Guigui on July 22, 2026, 09:13:44 PMAlso I have trouble imagining how inserting an assignation may not break the rest of the coming replay.

Sometimes, it does! Most of the time though, it doesn't. It really depends on the situation.

Quote from: Guigui on July 22, 2026, 09:13:44 PMFinally I am very used to airclick for replay cancel and never use anything else, please do not remove it.

Again, to be very clear, airclick-to-cancel is not going to be removed from CE. The proposal is only to make it optional.

Meanwhile, I've replied to your replay-for-playtesting suggestion here.

Good idea.

The question is really how to do this. We can store a temporary replay file in the directory which always keeps the same name, updating the internal data whenever a level is playtested. If we're in Playtest Mode and the replay data matches the level, we load the replay. Otherwise, we only overwrite.

There may be a better way, though. My goal would be to not litter the directory with temporary replays, ideally.

Suggestions welcome.

From Guigui in this topic.

Quote from: Guigui on July 22, 2026, 09:13:44 PMI'd appreciate if replay carries when using the editor.
To be clearer : create a level, playtest it, exit to editor to make changes, play test the level again and find your previous replay ready for you.

My 2 cents.

Replay annoyed me the first week I spent with the game.
Then I understood how it works and use it at all the time.

Never tried insert replay though, mainly because I do not even know how to trigger it. Also I have trouble imagining how inserting an assignation may not break the rest of the coming replay. Though about this point I trust everyone saying this is actually useful, so I plan on trying it when I finally find how to trigger it !

Finally I am very used to airclick for replay cancel and never use anything else, please do not remove it.

On another note, sorry if it is not the right place to mention it, I'd appreciate if replay carries when using the editor.
To be clearer : create a level, playtest it, exit to editor to make changes, play test the level again and find your previous replay ready for you.

Welcome from me, too! 

Also, german here as well.   

Quote from: Adrian060756 on July 08, 2026, 08:25:45 AMThis is the new link to the ROM hack patch, the one above takes you to a dead page as that one was before the site's migration to a new server.

https://romhackplaza.org/romhacks/lemmings-mega-edition-sega-master-system-romhack

Your levels are outstanding! I wish I had those levels on the 1994 Lemmings cartridge my mother bought me for my birthday!

Also, @Squidgy, your editor is impressive and very complete. I have to try it and adapt some of the levels I made for Lemmix, in order to try how well they behave on the SMS.

I have no energy to read everything here as I think the current system is fine, but here is my usecase reagarding the last question:

- I always click air to stop the replay. If this isn't the standard I would become confused and frustrated. I can see the option of turning it of useful though.
- For shorter and medium sections: I often rather just replay the section than using the blue "R" as I tend to play faster than I editing the history by now.
- For longer sections I do use the blue "R", which is only a minority of levels though.

All right, no undo for now, and the difference between the two surviving modes (airclick cuts global future vs. airclick does nothing) becomes a user option. There will be no mode toggling during play. Good riddance if it turns out well. You get to remove at least one hotkey (the mode toggling) and some iconography.

I think I like it.

Quoteclicking air cancels the replay (by default, it shouldn't)

No, I recommend that you keep the default that airclicks cut the global future.

Argument 1: Even though most users know about this, nobody has complained that it does too much damage in CE 1.1.2 or before. Replaying will become more powerful, but, at the same time, it becomes less destructive because assignments will cut only the assignee's future, not the global future.

Neutral observation: Inserting is advanced. Let's say 30 % of users will insert. If you anticipate that you will insert a lot and you fear about destruction, you'll activate the option for yourself. If everybody were an advanced user, I'd be 50:50 about the default. But that's not the argument.

Argument 2: Another 30 % of users will continue to play with replay mode, but not with insert mode. They'll never LMB into the map until they want to cut. The default shouldn't remove a useful shortcut (global-future-cutting air click) that does no damage for them: They won't LMB into the map for other reasons.

Argument 3: The final 40 % is that invisible portion of users. You rarely catch a twitch stream of them. They don't want replay, they'll always solve from scratch. Replaying annoys them. They always run default options. Don't remove the main way of cutting the unwanted replay from them!

QuoteMore input from other users would be good.

Yes, please post. Even (and especially) if you never use insert mode!

Do you click air to stop the replay? Or do you use a hotkey or click the R in the panel?

-- Simon

I do like the idea of an Undo system. Save the current replay in memory when making a destructive change, allow user to revert if they make a mistake.

Discoverability is the issue. We often lose sight of the fact that this is, after all, a game. Yes, it's become a fairly powerful piece of replay editing software as well. Where do we draw the line?

The goal here is to simplify the replay feature, not make it more complex. A single mode, let the user choose whethor or not clicking air cancels the replay (by default, it shouldn't), keep it to LMB (I agree that RMB is a bit too obscure), maybe bring more attention to the 'Cancel Replay' hotkey somehow - make it a button and have done with it?

More input from other users would be good. People don't tend to speak up until it's already been implemented and there's a problem, so we might have to just make some calls and go with it.

Quote from: Simon on July 21, 2026, 07:14:52 AMI think the author line should be dark blue like the pack and position, to not stand out as much. It's as relevant as the pack and position.

Agreed. If not the same shade (i.e. blue), we can find some other darker shade for this line.

Quote from: Simon on July 21, 2026, 07:14:52 AMRe long pack names: When you have to trim long pack and position because of long directory names, cut from the left. Or cut from the center.

Agreed. At present, the line can be 48 characters max, and then the pack name is omitted.

Maybe keeping the pack name but dropping characters from the center of the string could work...?

So:

SOME RIDICULOUSLY LONG PACK NAME - SOME RIDICULOUSLY LONG GROUP NAME 20

Would become:

SOME RIDICULOUSLY LONG P ... OUSLY LONG GROUP NAME 20

Maybe it's best just to omit the pack name?

Quote from: Simon on July 21, 2026, 07:14:52 AMSpacing is a concern for later. Now, if author is missing, there is gap. I don't mind the gap much.

The gap is fine as it doesn't appear in the middle of the block, it just elongates the space between the level title and the top visible line of the block.