Quote from: Nepster on August 13, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
That's a very interesting question. There might be a good solution to this by checking for water before checking for solid terrain, but I would have to look at the precise implementation to determine what can actually be done without negative side-effects. Please make a forum thread regarding this issue.

- Assign a lemming swimmer and climber skills.
- Dig a hole that ends in water and will be fatal fall distance from top to bottom, digger turns into a swimmer and climbs up the wall.
- When swimmer falls in this hole, the water should save him, but depending on the exact height of the fall he might splat.

I've been thinking of this topic for a long time already, and I don't know why it doesn't exist yet. So, post here Lemmings references that you have encountered or will encounter! References can be more or less stupid, fun, vague, anything.

The idea of this topic comes remotely close to the topic Lemmings spotted in real life!. Please note though that you are allowed to share here pretty much every Lemmings related reference you'll find from games, music, literature and any kind of popular culture, just for examples.

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Here's one that has been posted in a Finnish site where people upload random pictures:



Vocabulary:
Suomalainen työura = Finnish career
Poliisi = police
Verottaja = tax collector
Eläke = pension
Nuori ja osaava työvoima = young and competent labour
Sossu = social welfare office
Halpa viina = cheap booze

This picture has been posted at least in kuvaton and riemurasia.

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The question #97 in Impossible Quiz Book Chapter 2 game has a Lemmings reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzenNmxSd1Y
Look for time 10:14 - 10:16.

So that I can say I've released even one level pack. Plus level packs suddenly coming out of nowhere is cool.

It can't hurt to try out designing a few levels, can it? http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" /> Level designing can be pretty fun and rewarding if you have some good ideas and people playing them.

...level, considering it's his very first. I hope you make more Akseli!  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

I'm not sure if I would have ever made even one single level without a contest like this. And I'm really excited to see what kinds of solutions other people will find for my creation. I think I'm starting to understand the allure of making own levels more than ever.

And some more comments outside the forums something in the style of "How on Earth haven't you made levels, dude!?!?!?".

Yeap and it really seems to make sense starting a topic for a level pack rather than putting everything in Lemmix Level Pack Topic. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

Recently I really realized how there's much less interest in level designing in the Lemmings community than I thought. I think "Lemmings Community Compilation Levelpack" topic was the last bit when I figured out that surprisingly few seem to be really interested in the level designing scene/has played many custom levels/are willing to discuss about these. This issue doesn't at least spark my level designing appetite too much, and I'm not sure if/when I'm going to make more levels. But now I have created even one single pack, so I can taste what it's like to create levels myself, not just to play others' ones.

My levels in this pack focus on tricks. Some of them I've discovered entirely myself, and some of them I've got inspiration from Clam's trick topic. One level uses a glitch, but I think it's somewhat obvious which one it is. I don't know if most of these tricks are used in older levels already. Highly probably they are, and you can mention it if you find my levels similar than some older levels. But it's of course very nice if there's even one single level which could offer you something that you haven't experienced in Lemmings before.

Naturally, I'd like to hear any kind of thoughts which come to anyone's mind about my levels. Are there flaws in my levels, which kind of, does something look ugly, is the difficulty curve solid etc. I'd like to hear which levels are your favourites of these, but also which levels are your least favourites. Also, which levels you considered the hardest, which the easiest and so on. You can rank my levels in these kinds of orders if you like.
I'd guess that the most annoying issues in my levels are going to be executing the solutions. Like I said, they use tricks, and these need precision. I'd recommend to utilize fast forward and save states as much as you like. Of course I'd like to hear which other details annoy in my levels. And if there's actually something you like about. Please don't hesitate to give any kind of feedback, I'll appreciate everything.

The first level I saw in my dream when I was 11 years old. It looks very simplistic, but at least for now I don't want to add any decoration there, because the level was exactly like that in my dream. I'm surprised that the level actually works well.
The third level is a tribute/gift/something for some of my favourite level designers. In a neat puzzle game called "http://perso.cgocable.ca/lasertank/" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">Laser Tank" there were people who made this kind of tribute levels for their "role models"/level designers they honoured particularly in that game. I liked that idea a lot. Tricks needed in this level aren't discovered by me.
The fifth and the ninth levels are familiar from level design contests.
I tried to order the levels by difficulty (tell me your opinion!). I'm a bit worried if two certain levels resemble each other too much.  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/undecided.gif" alt=":-\" title="Undecided" class="smiley" />

I think I'll upload this pack to the Lemmings Level Database after fixing possible backroutes and such.
I hope you enjoy playing this! Or at least try not to break down in tears when playing my levels, if they're so awful haha. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" /> And yes, I'd very much like to see your solutions for my levels.

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If you have problems with setting up Lemmix, take a look at here.

Some hints for using Lemmix smoothly:
My levels are meant to be played in 'Custom Lemmings' viewer style. To change the viewer style, right click with the mouse on the window where levels are listed and choose 'Change viewer style...' and choose 'Custom Lemmings'.
When playing a level, you can save a replay by pressing 'u', and a replay file will appear in the Replay folder. To view a replay, press Shift+R.
You can save the current state by pressing Ctrl+F1, and load the latest saved state by pressing Shift+F1. Fast forward works by pressing 'f' and game will jump 10 seconds by pressing the Spacebar. Just to ease your playing experience. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

If you want to send your solutions me privately (which is recommended), you can send them in my e-mail: juhoakseli[at]hotmail.com or link them me (with speedyshare or dropbox, for example) in a personal message.

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EDIT 1: The second version of the level pack is out now! Fixed levels 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8!

EDIT 2: The third version of the level pack is out now! Fixed again levels 1, 2, 4, 6 and 7!

EDIT 3: The pack is even more updated and at last available in the http://lemmings-db.camanis.net/levelpack/ag1zfmxlbW1pbmdzLWRichYLEglMZXZlbFBhY2sYgICAgMbEiAoM/" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">Lemmings Level Database!

As probably some of you have noticed, I like making lists. I find them fun, efficient and informative. Just let me know if you're already tired of my lists and then I probably won't spam these anymore.
Here's a list of ratings I've encountered in Lemmings games:

Ratings of the official games:

Original Lemmings and Lemmings 3D: Fun, Tricky, Taxing, Mayhem
Oh No! More Lemmings: Tame, Crazy, Wild, Wicked, Havoc
Holiday Lemmings: Flurry, Blizzard and Frost, Hail
Other ratings: (Present, Sunsoft)

User made ratings:

Lemmix/NeoLemmix:
Apjjm's Aqualems: Coastal, Bathyal, Abyssal, Hadal
Calamity's GrentLems: Breezy, Stormy, Savage, Treacherous
Colorful Arty's SubLems: Newbie, Sweet, Scary, Chaotic, Insane, Hellish, (Retro)
Colorful Arty's ArtLems: (Ancient, Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, NeoClassical, Romantic, Modern)
Flopsy's SebLems: Paradise, Bittersweet, Revolution, Stormy, Murder, Rapture, (MegSEBytes, Unrequited, Deep Cuts)
Flopsy's Lemmings: Gotta Go Fast: Rose, Ring, Sneaker, Emerald, Super Sonic, Chilli Dog, (SEBSegaBytes, Encore)
Giga's Lemmings Platinum: Cakewalk, Doosy, Fragle (Fragile maybe?), Careful, Dangerous
GigaLem's GigaLems: Warm, Hot, Boiling, Scalding, Scorching
GigaLem's Holiday GigaLems 2015: Very Merry, Ba Hambug, Naughty, Sub Zero, Hypothermic
GigaLem's Festival Millas 2018: Malamig, Serbidora, Mayelo, Artiko
Gronkling's Lemmings Evolution: Amoeba, Fish, Amphibian, Reptile, Rodent
IchoTolot's Lemmings Reunion: I'm Too Young To Die, Hey, Not Too Rough!, Hurt Me Plenty, Ultra-Violence, Nightmare!
IchoTolot's Lemmings United: Pacifism, Neutrality, Tension, War, Genocide, (Extra)
kieranmillar's Quest From Kieran: Fun, Also Fun, Hard But Still Fun, Not Fun
Lemmings Redux: Gentle, Quirky, Zany, Manic, Lunatic
mobius' MobiLems II: Cake, Crafty, Madness, Grueling
namida's Lemmings Plus I: Mild, Wimpy, Medi, Danger, PSYCHO
namida's Lemmings Plus II: Nice, Cheeky, Sneaky, Cunning, Genius
namida's Lemmings Plus II Bonus Pack: (Trial, Challenge, Reverse, Flight, Rush)
namida's Lemmings Plus III: Timid, Dodgy, Rough, Fierce
namida's Lemmings Plus III Bonus Pack: (Breather, Rehash, Moonwalk, Teamwork, Party, Secret)
namida's Lemmings Plus IV: Smooth, Bumpy, Twisted, Insane
namida's Lemmings Plus V: Blissful, Touchy, Edgy, Unruly, Outrageous
namida's Lemmings Plus VI: Sane, Loopy, Manic, Delirious
namida's Lemmings Plus Omega: Breezy, Puzzling, Perplexing, Mental, (Playtime)
namida's Lemmings Plus Omega 2: Fluffy, Coarse, Spiky, Sharp
namida's Lemmings Plus Alpha: Mutilation, Decimation, Obliteration
namida's Holiday Lemmings Plus: Glimmer, Arctic
namida's Lemmings Plus Flashbacks: Easy, Medium, Hard, Extreme
namida's Doomsday Lemmings: Outbreak, Plague, Apocalypse
namida's NeoLemmix Introduction Pack: (Mechanics, Skills, Objects)
Nepster's NepsterLems: Comet, Moon, Planet, Sun, Neutron Star, Black Hole
Nessy's Lemmings Migration: Painless, Irritation, Headache, Migraine
Nessy's Lemmings Destination: Helium, Neon, Argon, Xenon, Radon, (Synthetic, Fallout)
nin10doadict's Lemmings Squared: Simple, Moderate, Tough, Scary, Brutal
nin10doadict's Casualemmings: Calm, Perky, Twitchy, Hyper
Proxima's GemLems: Amethyst, Topaz, Sapphire, Diamond
Strato Incendus' ParaLems: Harmless, Disturbing, Disgusting, Abhorrent, Demented
Strato Incendus' Pit Lems: LOL, ROFL, WTF, OMFG, FML
Strato Incendus' Lemmings World Tour: Amateur, Professional, Diva, Rockstar, Legend, (Encore)
Strato Incendus' Lemmings Open Air: Soft, Loud, Heavy, Hardcore
tan xd x' Integral Lemmings: Epsilon, Delta
WaffLem's LemmingBytes: Byte, Kilobyte, Megabyte, Gigabyte, Terabyte

Lemmini:
Dodochacalo's DoveLems: Plain, Coward, Devilish, Maso, (Bonus)
Dodochacalo's FranLems: Doux, Tordu, Corsé, Sadique (freely translated Soft, Twisted, Gutsy, Sadistic haha those who speak French can correct these)
MikauSchekzen's Mikau's Pack 1: Mild, Spicy, Spitfire, Inferno
mobius' MobiLems: Friendly, Flapdoodle, Brouhaha, Heinous, (OhNoMoreLevels)
Pieuw's PimoLems: Calm, Windy, Stormy, Hurricane, (Pickaxe, One, Special, Extra)
Community Pack - Revenge of the Lemmings: Picnic, Hootenanny, Frenzy, Pain, Carnage, Armageddon
timfoxxy's Fox Lemmings: Mild, Cunning, Wacky, Psycho

Lemmings for Windows/Lemmings 95:
Ji Hoon's Lemmings Remake: Heaven, Sky, Earth, Hell
Pieuw's Lemmings2007: Peace, Awkward, Artful, Insane

Cheapo:
Insane Steve's notebook sets: Difficult, Menacing, Chaotic, Hopeless
piainp2's Lemmings Classic: Sain (Sane maybe?), Loopy, Madness, CHAOS!
Steaver's Lemmings Plus 1: Funny, Strange, Weird, Wacky, Insane
Steaver370's Lemmings Plus 2: Light, Neutral, Dark, Evil
Sunrise's Lemmings Plus 3: Daigoro, Kozuka, Wakizashi, Zanmato (ok, no idea for these..)

Lix:
Clam: Flower, Humane, Arcane, Insane, (Flingsane)
Community Levelset: Lovely, Quirky, Cunning, Daunting, Vicious, Hopeless
Phil: Nudge, Pinch, Flick, Squash
Reloaded: Degu, Beaver, Porcupine, Capybara
RubiX: Pleasant, Sinister, Perplexing, Nightmare, (Aftermath)

Rating names that don't indicate difficulty compared to other rating names are in parenthesis.

Lots of nice rating names here! Let me know if you find mistakes and/or know some others.
For those who wondered: namida, Ji Hoon, Steaver, Steaver370 and Sunrise are exactly the same one person. (AFAIK )
It looks like that Insane is the most popular rating name (used five times in total). Mild, Cunning and Stormy were used three times. Breezy, Calm, Chaotic, Hopeless, Nightmare, Perplexing, Psycho, Quirky and Wacky were used two times.
My favourites are probably Awkward, Devilish and Hopeless. All four ratings of MikauSchekzen's and RubiX's packs are also really nice!

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[Comment related to the original topic of this post: "As for what's suggested in this topic already, Carnage sounds excellent also in my ear for a very high tier rating name. And I pretty much agree with Proxima who said already that "Easy, Medium, Hard" are somewhat dull choices."]

A new levelpack topic for keeping Lemmix and Lemmini stuff separated. I don't expect much action here, because I guess here are very few people who even use Lemmini. However, here is a topic for Lemmini levels!

Here are Lemmini Troubleshooting and Lemmini keeps asking to extract files topics for technical questions related to Lemmini.

Here is the web site of http://lemmini.de/" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">Lemmini.

For now, at least we can wait for Gronkling's upcoming levelpack, Gronklems7!