Fiat Lem! (Let there be Lemmings!)

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MASTER-88

#45
Only two levels completed after 4-5 hours attempts. Damn this pack is brutal. :devil:  I still stuck proficio 1 and cannot figured it out. Attempt it 2 hours and What ever i do its goes wrong somewhere and i simply no have enough skills to pass this level. This level is even more difficult than Incipio 15. I´ll look it later again and simply skip it and goes play other levels.

Proficio 3 Wall
This take me 45 minutes figured out, its very genius & cunning level, i´ll quite sure this is intention and only possible completion solution

Impero 7 Crisis Management
Awesome extreme level, i´ll really liked this level, but heck yeah that was very hard to figured out and quite difficult to executed too (some releaserate manipulations includes make it good EXTREME level, spend nearly 2 hours with this, but i got it done i´ll think its intention solution too, seems just only possible way go this level through

Might continue my journery early next week. I´ll play every levels random order and will back proficio 1 later. But righnow i not have any single idea how this level goes. Its really road block me everywhere. :evil:

Have to say this might most difficult lemmings pack i everplayed myself. Crane pack was insane hard though, but those early levels was way easier compared Fiat Lem. Crane pack goes super hard when we enter Chaos Mode.

EDIT:

OOPS Forget add replays. Added.

EDIT: 2
I´ll put some shot yet. Just short levels. Just no feelings play long levels rightnows

Proficio 4
Damn this level was awesome. I just overlook it another 45 minutes, but yeah its just simple, but super genius, very great level.

EDIT: 3
This level was super tricky. Take me 7 approach. Not sure is it backroute. All skills used.

Proficio 5 Fire & Blood
Very tricky level, i try many approachs and many recorded attempt. This finally work. Its super cunning solution and perfect EXTREME Level. First approach i attempt use one miner with start, but end of level goes too impossible even make many differents variations. So just let miner at end. Goes start two digger & bomb and this let miner my at end. Most tricky things here is turn this climber back. Its pretty invisible, but use clear physic tool you can see how i did it

BTW
Have to say this pack is super great. Its insane hard, but yeah this really keep me trying it. Seriously completed this pack wont happen in this year.

Yes i´ll continue my progress next week. Just few days break time now.
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MASTER-88

#46
Three more Proficio levels done.  This Blood & Fire was mega cunning. :evil:  Over 3 hours attempts with this level. Finally got it right. That was reverse version fire & blood which also was really tough level.

Proficio 10
anicent astronaut
This level was quite easy i figured out it some 15 minutes, one fastest solution i got done in this pack, i think its intention or close it, very limited skills here

Porficio 12
Paved with good intentions
This level was fun & interesting to play, its take me while to solved some 60-90 minutes range. Guess its intention solution, that was cunning level though, many things have to look here

Proficio 15
Blood & Fire
Over 3 hours attempts here and i overlooked it a lot. I overlook this begin here so much, that keyword here is compress lemmings and they all can fall down with one single digger, that why this take me so long, i always waste too much skills here and cannot pass that end. Its have to be intention and only possible solution. I´ll really look everything else here, its cannot be done any otherways. Though its not really was too hard level to executed if you figured out this compression method with begin

EDIT
Proficio 17
Bad Reflection
This level was super easy got it less than 5 minutes, though its might backroute, quite much skills remain, here is alls saved solution too

EDIT 2
Proficio 6
Low Tide
This might are backroute (bomber, climber & floater remain) Blocker trick compress all, next turn all climbers keep first lemmings little bit ahead then he can turn all other used digger rightspot, bash back turn others, then just keep digging to finnish (2 lemmings die to trap and this blocker cannot saved. This solution requires some tigh spots, not really that hard level, but its might be backroute though
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#47
5 Next levels. Here we go 8-) . Only 6 levels remain Proficio includes Proficio 1 which really roadblock me. Migth look it again later this week. Hope i figured out it next time. :P Yes Figured out Proficio 1 too. Very fast with this time. Only one single attempt. Im not was very sharp feeling in weekend. :-[ Its not was hard level.

Here we go 5 next levels and Proficio 1.

Proficio 7
Seconds hand wonderland
I´ll guess this is intention solution, quite simple level take few lookings

Proficio 8
Snow Piercer
Guess its intention, lot builders here and also some remain, simple level

Proficio 11 Talisman completed
Attack big root thing
This level was quite cunning and talisman required some precise timings. Got it 1 min 20 seconds. Talsiman required 1 min 45. Though its not matter 1 min 20 or 2 minutes, because if anyone turn back you will failed it

Proficio 13
Land Confusion
This might intention solution, another quite simple level, just keep 2nd lemmings run around untin builder is done

HARDEST & MOST GENIUS LEVEL NEXT. :devil:
Proficio 16
High Tide
Just wonder why this are Step 2 Proficio level. Its sure more Step 4 Impero level IMO, what goes about execution. This execution here requires a lot releaserate manipulations and super tight timings everywhere, i did make many test out before got all finnish. This trap is main trouble. Let two walk over , but no more or less. Okay i test different releaserates and 98 seems work best way make group and floaters help me manipulate landing ones. Make finalize perfect group. That was still hard, this timing only take me  nearly 60 minutes perform correct. Its might most precise level at this point i am played in this pack and also hardest level executed correct (though there is some more cunning levels around). Happy i got it finally done. 8-)

EDIT
LOL. I am feel myself so stupid rightnow. Proficio 1 was actually very easy level. I got it my 1st attempt when i have to go it again. Spend two hours it weekend and give up it then. Maybe i was tired or something, my brains not work well. :-[  Yes this is embarrassed. Its thrid time i´ll overlook simple level just that much. Once it happen Crane pack Cunning 16 and once Nota_Steve pack medium 29. Those levels take me horrible long, even those was quite simple to figured out and executed.

Proficio 1
Dead lemming is good lemmings
that was very simple, just let left side work left and thats it, i overlook it much weekend and try much more complicated ways.

here is Proficio 1 replay and sure its intention solution. Its have to be, because i technically tries everythings else in last weekend.

BTW
Current status
Incipio all 20/20 level completed plus talismans
Proficio 15/20 levels completed
Scando 0/20 levels completed (yes not are trying it yet)
Impero 6/20 levels completed.
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Over 8 Hours in row Fiat Lem today. I think i am ready to keep break and back to play later. I almost got completed Proficio. Cannot completed two last levels rightnow. Nothing focus level 19. This level is quite huge & very quirky and might requires some board testing lemmings editor, but i´ll make it when i am more focused mood. Its bit quirky board too. This last level Proficio seems road block me everywhere rightnow. I´ll might overlook it, its very close to finnish, but its still goes wrong somewhere. So let continue Scando mode and back to play two last proficio levels later.

Here i other Proficio mode replays and yes Scando 1, that was quick and fun level.

Proficio 2
Mainteance staff on the Loose
That was fun level to play. I got it quite quickly, never perform this level main trick before, its quite interesting

Proficio 9
From A to B back again
This level was quite cunning even that less skills and yes its quite sharp too, though nothing compared Proficio 16 High Tide

Proficio 14
Late Comings
That was fun level, remind some my own custom levels, so i got this done very fast

Scando 1
Cabinet of curosites
That was quite simple level, take me some 15 minutes figured out

BTW
Proficio 20 Attempt. I have very potential attempt. I have to look this more later.
Ecletic Power
This my lower room was technically perfect (used some my old SNES lemmings strategys, heck this upper room. Much builder remains, but no enough pass it through, lack bashers will kill this solution, i´ll put this attempt replay.
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MASTER-88

All Proficio levels completed. Perfect youtube list contains talismans (though only one talisman in this difficult)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Md38M8ggSE

There is two last replays

Proficio 19
Convergence Disorder
This level was HARD to executed and also hard to figured out, but exectuion was main hard task here. Im not are big fan those frame perfect tricks when we have to perform those end of long level, this miner cancel trick is good example, though its not usually hard trick if you know correct releaserate, but with this level its cannot be manipulate with this way (there is two entrances and i have to releaserate this begin avoid those falling to dead which make this miner trick insane hard one to perform., So its just take me tons testings before got this setup correct. Yes those things are just vicious, but i have to be honest, i am maded similar vicious things my own custom levels too

Proficio 20
Eclectic power
Got it almost done few day ago, okay just look end part better and figured out it very quick with this time. Yeah this level was very cunning one, but quite easy to executed

I am done Scando 1 and 6 Impero difficult levels already.
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Lets work Scando mode. Only few levels done because i spend over 3 hours Level 9 Save Our Souls and i still cannot figured it out. There is at least 7 potential solution which goes more or less close to completion, but this level is still road block me right before end and my ideas are totally empty rightnow. Simple keep break this level rightnow i´ll look some easier levels.

Okay some Scando levels here is mega cunnings (especially level 9 because i cannot figured out it rightknow. Some are simples ones.

Scando 4
Newton Cradle
All lemmings saved. Guess its backroute, that was quite easy for me blockout trick was main trick here

Scando 8
Diving board
Quite cunning level which take me while to solved. Guess my solution is intention one. Its become quite crystal clear break this blocker used climber, because this climber cannot be saved, its take me while to solved how to make it. Great level

Scando 11
Paredolia
Guess this is intention solution. Yeah i figured out this quite quickly, though few cunning things here

Scando 12
viadcuc caduc
Another pretty simple level i figured out quite quickly, its might intention solution

Scando 13
They came at night
Simple level got done quickly. Its might intention solution or close it

Scando 18
hanging gardens
This level was little Vicious, though this strategy was little bit similar type as Scando 8, just let climber bomb and saves others, guess its intention solution

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#51
Here we go. 6 Impero levels next group. Some might are backroutes. Let see

Impero 3
Lemgram
quite simple level there was few tricks i managed create my amiga classic special 2 pack, so i´ll figured out those very quickly myself

Impero 5
Perfectedshlag
Floater & digger remain, just figured out you allowed lost one, its make it easy

Impero 6
Hypostyle freestyle
Quite simple level with few cunning point, guess its intention solution all skill used

Impero 8
Forbidden friendship
Sure one my favorite level, its genius solution and nice tricks here. Its take some looking, but not really was that hard level, its quite cunning and i am pretty sure this is intention solution too

Impero 12
Emeraldpunk5047
Im not sure is this intention solution. Im not really need that 2nd bomb and also let floater & climber remain, but i also cannot saved that extra lemmings, so its might at least half intention solution, but its might half backroute too

Impero 15
Against Stream
This level was little bit cunning and contains some qutie sharp timinings, nothing really hard here.

I am also done another 5-6 Scandos includes that cursed Level 9 which caused me some serious headache, but got it done my 3rd sessions quite quickly. Will post those replays my next post later.

Current status******************
Incipio all 20 Levels completed
Proficio all 20 levels completed
Scando 11/20 levels completed (im not are post all replays here yet9
Impero 12/20 levels completed.

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Pieuw

Thank you for your feedback MASTER-88, I will look at our replays / videos when I got some time. What I grab from your comments is that you seem to make some levels more complicated than needed, forcing hardcore precision tricks. They're mostly never needed in my levels, and when they are I try to set them up naturally. But as long as you manage to progress, that's what counts :)

MASTER-88

Last 6 Group Scando levels. I´ll need some break time now. I´ll started are tired and my focus is not are perfect rightnow. So i´ll will continue my journeys next week i´ll guess. I´ll nearly play that 14 hours a today. Here is 6 next Scando replays.

Scando 2
Time to kill time to save
I am quite sure this is intention solution, its seems just only possible way beat this level

Scando 9
Save Our Sould
This level give me serious headache. Yes its take me over 3 hours attempts total, though i did it three sessions here and got it very fast my 3rd session, this level was mega cunning, because its requires watch technically everywhere and you can close to finnish it many ways, yeah finally got it done and yes guess its intention solution. You guys are patched backroutes here very well


Scando 10
Dream to Earth
Just Super easy level. Got my 1st attempt, not sure is this backroute, this level was one easier entire pack IMO, even easier than incipio first level

Scando 17
Razing foundations
Another pretty simple level, its take me few looking, but i got it quickly. all skills used and all board used, so its might be intention solution

Scando 19
Return to shire
Another super easy level, got it my 1st attempt like Scando 10. Sure one easiest level entire pack IMO

Scando 20
Precasious guidance system
This level was very unique and very well maded. How ever im not are big fan with this type levels. Its quite easy figured out, but execution here caused me some troubles and much test replay attempts. When miss some pixel things have to start all over tracks agains. Its not really that frustrating, but not very fun too, its sure one most unique level, keep this basher run through and sure it very nicely done level

Final Status today
13/20 Scando levels Done
12/20 Impero levels done

Total 15 Levels Fiat Lem! remains yet. I´ll let some most hardwork levels later when i am more focus mood. So those hard work levels will be much slower to completed. Just look some fast levels always first.
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MASTER-88

#54
Quote from: Pieuw on Today at 08:49:55 AMThank you for your feedback MASTER-88, I will look at our replays / videos when I got some time. What I grab from your comments is that you seem to make some levels more complicated than needed, forcing hardcore precision tricks. They're mostly never needed in my levels, and when they are I try to set them up naturally. But as long as you manage to progress, that's what counts :)

I´ll might overlook some things and made harder way. Proficio mode was pretty heck hard here. I am got some way easier levels Scando & Impero at least to executed. There was few sharp levels to Proficio. I think Proficio Hightide & Converdence disorved. its possible there will be easier solutions to pass those. My solutions was tough ones. Its always possible i overlook things harder than intention solutions. 8-)

Have to say this pack is awesome and superb and insane addicitive. Those levels really keep my interesting up. Really liked this pack.
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