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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2022, 12:23:09 AM »
Hello, I have resolved levels up through the Libra rank. I have my entire Uncharted replay collection attached, but you just need to check Aries 1, Aries 12, Gemini 6, Gemini 7, Gemini 14, Leo 8, Leo 14, Leo 15, Leo 18, Leo 19, Leo 20, Libra 1, Libra 5, Libra 6, Libra 8, Libra 10, Libra 11, Libra 12, Libra 14, Libra 18, Libra 19, and Libra 20. I feel that Leo 8, Leo 15, Leo 19, and Libra 5 are still backroutes, though :P Also the new Libra 20 doesn't feel intended either :P The rest should be intended or at least acceptable now ;)

In particular, Gemini 14, Leo 14, Leo 20, Libra 8, Libra 10, Libra 11, Libra 12, Libra 14, Libra 18, and Libra 19 have all become so much better levels as a result! :thumbsup:

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I'll try and get the Aquarius rank resolved within the next day or so, although looking at the entire rank 18 orange check marks :lem-mindblown: That's a bit intimidating, particularly since I struggled so much with the final rank. Wow, I seriously backrouted 90% of the rank :laugh:     
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #76 on: August 12, 2022, 07:30:05 AM »
Thank you both :thumbsup:
I'll look into them closely this weekend :laugh:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #77 on: August 14, 2022, 11:40:23 AM »
@Ichotolot

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As it seems this isn't the first time this happened to a level: How about a seperate rank for gathering those "unrecoverable" levels? ???
Actually I'm preparing a mini-pack(or just a bonus rank of future pack? not sure atm) containing all the rejected levels I've made so far after I revisit and make them into somewhat decent quality. Probably these unrecoverable levels could fit in there too. :laugh:

3 19 This is starting to look ugly :XD: but let's try one more fix :crylaugh:
4 08 Good job on finding no-blocker solution to this level! The 3 given blocker can be used to ease the timing but it seems like you didn't need them :thumbsup:
4 10 100% intended :thumbsup: This level was inspired by one of Duuddu's levels(other than one Nessy's level of course ;P) Do you recognize which level is it? :laugh:
4 20 Interesing solution but not interesting enough to be intended :evil:
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #78 on: August 14, 2022, 11:41:13 AM »
@kaywhyn

3 14 Yeah "Forgotten Refinery" is one of the final levels I was able to solve in United and I fell in love with that trick! I myself made some levels using several variations of the trick for this pack and this level is one of them!
3 20 Also intended!
4 10 Yep this level was inspired by the one you mentioned ;)
4 12 Intended :thumbsup:
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What makes this level very hard is the extremely obscure stoner/miner trick, where if you mine immediately after turning around on a stoner you actually make a climber friendly wall!
Yes this is due to how miner's destruction mask looks like.(it also works with basher!) So you have to be very careful with where to put the stoner so you can turn the climber around and immediately start mining from there after he turns around.
4 14 Close enough! Abusing checkerboard mechanic is the main key to this level. And you also have to see that builder positioning to keep the shimmier going.
4 18 intended!
4 19 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Intended solution and same talisman solution to Icho!
The main puzzle of this level is to make sure the worker lemming who travel around the level is a slider with a climber skill in the skill-panel. Also the blocker is there not only to turn the climber around but also the shimmier/slider worker lemming!
4 20 exactly same backroute to Icho :XD: The newly aded OWW will do the trick!
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  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #79 on: August 14, 2022, 11:42:02 AM »
Thanks Icho, kaywhyn and josh :thumbsup: I really love watching your replays.
Any backroutes are welcome and any intended solution replays are more than welcome :thumbsup:

V4.4 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-3 08 No Devil Lived on - added a OWW
-3 15 Art of Puzzle Solving - added OWWs
-3 18 Meanwhile in a Parallel Universe - completely flatten the starting area of the right hatch
-3 19 Mysterious Circle - a jumper is now a pick-up
-4 05 Deep Inside the Beehive - added a OWW
-4 20 Red Queen Hypothesis - added a OWW
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #80 on: August 20, 2022, 09:09:54 PM »
Resolved Leo+Libra. :)

I think there should be quite a few more intended ones.

The hardest one out of the 4 ranks so far for me was the newly fixed Leo 19. I think I exhausted pretty much every other possibility before seing a detail and combine 2 previous attempts. I can see people getting the solution a lot faster though. But well if this is intended, I doubt there is another backroute in there - I tested it intensively ;P

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #81 on: August 21, 2022, 10:12:28 AM »
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
intended solutions to both 3 18 and 3 19 :thumbsup:
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Now there's only one level left in 4th rank. 8-)
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My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #82 on: August 21, 2022, 10:12:53 AM »
V4.5 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-4 20 Red Queen Hypothesis - added a steel block, added a fire
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2022, 04:02:08 PM »
Hi Armani,

I finally managed to resolve every backroute patched level, including all 18 levels of the Aquarius rank. My entire replay collection for v4.5 is attached. However, you just need to check Leo 8, Leo 15, Leo 18, Leo 19, Libra 5, Libra 20, and every level of Aquarius except for Aquarius 3 and Aquarius 14. I feel everything is intended now except for Aquarius 6, Aquarius 10, Aquarius 15, and most certainly not Aquarius 20, as I unfortunately backrouted your GF's level again :P Maybe Aquarius 11, Aquarius 13, Aquarius 17, and Aquarius 19 aren't exactly intended either and possibly minor backroutes, but probably still acceptable despite the leftover skills? So, I feel we are very close now to having a 100% backroute proof pack! :thumbsup:

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So, I believe the first 4 ranks are now solid and so it's just a few levels left in the Aquarius rank that need more fixing, and then I think your Uncharted pack is good to go in getting backroutes all patched up! :thumbsup: We're almost there!

Also since I'm certain that I pretty much have Aquarius 1 and Aquarius 5 intended, to reiterate, I'm very curious and would love to see your solutions to these two levels, as I'm certain more than not that I really overcomplicated these two, especially the latter. That was a lot of timing madness I did for Aquarius 5 :XD:
« Last Edit: August 23, 2022, 04:11:41 PM by kaywhyn »
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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #84 on: August 28, 2022, 08:04:19 PM »
Resolved Libra 20 today and also got a solution for Aquarius 1. :)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2022, 01:40:10 PM »
Solved further until Aquarius 11.

I don't know if that route on level 5 is now intended or a complete backroute. :XD: 

It at least does not use that frame precise method like the solution in kaywhyns replay that I also found before.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2022, 05:22:59 PM »
A lot of intended solutions and also many backroutes. :forehead:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2022, 05:25:33 PM »
Thank you for your patience and the new update is finally here. 8-)

V4.6 is out! ;)

Level fixes:
-4 20 Red Queen Hypothesis - +1jumper, -1builder, -1shimmier, added a bit of terrain
-5 01 Game of the Century - made the exit platform higher so 1stoner is not enough to reach
-5 03 Jumping Bees - 5platformers are now pick-ups
-5 04 Rhythmical - shimmiers are now pick-ups
-5 05 Abandoned Library - made the pillar at the starting area higher, repositioned one of the buttons, -1platformers, added one more hatch, increased total number of lemmings and the save requirement by 10
-5 06 RefleXion - moved the trap at the exit area 3pixels to the left
-5 10 Triple Lutz - 4builders are now pick-ups
-5 11 Lost in an Ice Cave - corrected a grammar error in the pretext, modified terrain a bit, locked the RR
-5 12 Butterfly Effect - moved the wall-trap a bit downward, a fencer is now a pick-up
-5 13 System Malfunction - added a OWW, replaced a steel block with a smaller one, locked the RR
-5 15 Simulation: FARO - added 2more splitters
-5 16 Facade of Indifference - added a bit of terrain
-5 17 Forgive Us - removed a bit of terrain
-5 18 One Lemming To Rule Them All - added a steel block
-5 19 Immoral Society - repositioned the blocker pick-up
-5 20 Lovebirds Duet - added a steel block
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0