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Offline IchoTolot

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All zips only need to be unzipped inside the main folder of your NeoLemmix Player!

NeoLemmix Level Pack: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pn7lzbqf4kuq2ja/Contest_23.zip?dl=1

Music: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6kai36r33yrf0px/Contest_23_Music.zip?dl=1

Rule 1 Levels

Armani's "Cactus Valley" (V1)
IchoTolot's "Craze Or Crazy?" (V1)
Kaywhyn's "Everything Comes in Twos?" (V10)
Kingshadow3's "The Monkey Cave" (V4)


Rule 2 Levels

Armani's "Brakes Failed" (V2)
IchoTolot's "Retspen's Tomb" (V1)
Kaywhyn's "30 Seconds Before the Final Curtain Call" (V8)
Kingshadow3's "Master Of The Minute" (V6)


Rule 3 Levels

Armani's "The Age of Affluence" (V1)
IchoTolot's "Countdown To Meltdown" (V1)
Kaywhyn's "Cross Over Into the Light, My Lems!" (V5)
Kingshadow3's "Straight And Curved" (V3)


You can check the rules details again here: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5599.0

Playing Phase will be closed on 20th of August!
Updates will close on 17th of August!


Note: This topic is for posting your comments, replays, etc for the levels. If you wish to post an update to your level, or enter a late submission, please do so in the Updates Topic instead.

Link to update topic
« Last Edit: August 01, 2021, 03:37:16 PM by IchoTolot »

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2021, 03:05:00 PM »
Solved Kaywhyn's "30 Seconds Before the Final Curtain Call". Just completed it in time. @Kaywhyn I need to verify if this is the intended solution.

EDIT: Also solved Kaywhyn's "Cross Over Into the Light, My Lems!". This seems like the intended solution but I'm not sure.

EDIT2: Armani's "Cactus Valley" is another one I've solved. I really like the solution I found for this one.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2021, 06:37:33 PM by Kingshadow3 »

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2021, 06:40:13 PM »
@Kingshadow3 Thanks for playing my R2 and R3! :thumbsup: Your solutions to them are backroutes and hence not intended. R3 was easy enough to fix. I needed to think for a bit for my R2. Both V2's have been uploaded. Let's see how they hold up and if they block your backroutes now! :P

Again, thanks for playing. Now just need to see my R1, but I'm guessing you need more time to think about it?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2021, 08:44:55 PM »
ok, solved Kaywhyn's Rule 1 level.

Saved 1 over the minimum since I had a stoner left. Most likely a backroute.



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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2021, 09:19:39 PM »
@eric That is a very bad backroute to my R1! :XD: I have uploaded V2 of my R1. The change there are some pickup skills. Let's see if it stops your backrouting to it now! :P

I have solved both Armani's R1 and KingShadow3's R1. My replays are attached. Also, I started an LP of the contest levels. Here are the links to them. Enjoy! :P

Part 1: https://youtu.be/rjmqT2GodEU

Part 2: https://youtu.be/ootqJnIsVKY

Armani's Cactus Valley R1V1 (click to show/hide)


The rest of my LP of the contest levels will follow as soon as I can get to them! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2021, 10:00:12 PM »
Thank you for finding this backroute kaywhyn. :D I've modified the terrain near the hatch to fix this. Check the update topic.

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2021, 04:45:21 AM »
Both of you found exactly the intended solution! Well done :thumbsup:
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2021, 05:22:35 AM »
Solved rule1 levels.
There only 3 levels to solve per rank, so I might try to solve rule2 and rule3 levels today as well. ;)

Craze Or Crazy (click to show/hide)

Everything Comes in Twos? (click to show/hide)

The Monkey Cave (click to show/hide)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2021, 05:28:31 AM »
Solved the remaining R2 and R3 levels which I haven't seen/played yet. My replays for Armani's R2 and R3, as well as KingShadow3's R2 and R3, are attached. I smell backroutes for KingShadow3's R2 and Armani's R3 :P Maybe KingShadow3's R3 as well, but it might be acceptable?

Also links to the remaining LP videos. Enjoy! :P

Part 3: https://youtu.be/mh6Jio1y4UE

Part 4: https://youtu.be/8QeaQglTJPY

Part 5: https://youtu.be/m142MH8wx5E

   

Armani's Brakes Failed R2V1 (click to show/hide)





All rightie, since I have solved every contest level at least once, Part 5 will be the last video in the LP series for a while. When I return to record in maybe a few weeks or possibly closer to the closing date of the playing phase, I will simply be showing off the intended solutions to the contest levels once I resolve all updated levels and all solutions are acceptable. I will also show off my solutions to Icho's contest levels, as well as the intended solutions to my own contest levels, next time! ;) I pretested Icho's contest levels once again, and so along with my own contest levels, there were only 2 levels per rule I needed to play and solve in my LP :P

I will include my entire replay collection for the LDC #23 levels at a later time! ;)
« Last Edit: July 11, 2021, 10:28:03 AM by kaywhyn »
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kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2021, 05:49:00 AM »
@Armani - V3 of my R1 uploaded! Slight terrain shift to block your backroute. Let's see how this holds up now :P
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2021, 06:13:16 AM »
@kaywhyn (click to show/hide)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2021, 07:21:39 AM »
@Armani That was the intended solution to my R1. Congrats! :thumbsup:

@Kaywhyn For R2, I've encountered multiple backroutes with this level playtesting myself before I submitted it (A lot of them involved the stacker to the point to that I had to make it a pickup skill). I didn't expect to see another one. I actually thought the small holes in the terrain would prevent such a thing from happening. Looks like I was mistaken. :lem-shocked:
For R3, sequence breaking the order of which balls you build/plaform to has been patched out. This level is pretty open. The intended solutions (There are multiple intended ways to free the lems) can spare 1 builder or platformer.

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2021, 09:28:58 AM »
Solved rest of the levels.

Everything Comes in Twos(V3) (click to show/hide)

Retspen's Tomb(V1) (click to show/hide)


Master Of The Minute(V2) (click to show/hide)

Countdown To Meltdown(V1) (click to show/hide)


Straight And Curved(V2) (click to show/hide)
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2021, 10:08:14 AM »
Updated my Rule 2 again. This one is a pain to backroute fix. :XD: I had to make the builders pickup skills and lock the release rate. See the update topic for R2V3.

@Armani Your solution to my Rule 3 is an intended one. There are multiple ways to free the crowd (One of which spares a constructive skill). My R3 is pretty open. ;P
« Last Edit: July 11, 2021, 10:16:26 AM by Kingshadow3 »

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Re: Level Design Contest #23 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2021, 10:12:37 AM »
@Armani Your solution to my R1 is about 95% intended. I have uploaded V4 of my R1 by making a stacker a pickup. This should be it with V4! :laugh:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Your solution to my R2 is 100% intended. Well done! :thumbsup:

For R3, your solution is 99% intended! I added OWAs, so all you need to do is tweak one skill assignment and then you'll have the intended solution ;)

Finally, for your solutions to Icho's levels, by my pre-testing, I can confirm that they're all 100% intended. Well done! :thumbsup: For the second solution to his R3, I say that's an acceptable alternative that spares a skill and definitely one that I could had found as well in my pre-testing. However, it's Icho's call, as I didn't make his levels :P
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0