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Offline NieSch

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Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« on: July 08, 2021, 06:14:56 AM »
Hurray! My second level pack is here. :)



Long Live Lemmings!

- For NeoLemmix v12.12 (or higher)
- 30 levels equally divided into Fun, Tricky, Taxing, Mayhem and Bonus
- Classic skills + (new) NeoLemmix skills including the jumper and slider
- Original Lemmings, ONML and Xmas Lemmings styles and music + music from the "original original soundtrack" that was found on a Lemmings demo disk
- Difficulty: for everyone!


Tricky 1: Spoilt for Choice


Taxing 1: You Better Watch Out


Taxing 6: All in Good Timing


Mayhem 1: Symmetry for the Devil

Thanks to all who played and gave feedback on the (contest) levels that I released earlier. :)
Lots of thanks to Armani for playtesting all levels and finding backroutes. You've been a great help! :thumbsup:

Latest update: June 18th, 2022:
« Last Edit: June 18, 2022, 08:44:07 PM by NieSch »

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy - Hard]
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2021, 06:33:10 AM »
Wow, looks great! Congrats on the release of your second level pack. By Armani's suggestion/recommendation, I will be LPing this pack, just like I did with your Yippee! More Lemmings from last year. I will let you know when I get around to it. It's not going to be for a while, since I have some other level packs that I'm currently prioritizing.

In regards to the title, I'm going to assume that it's in honor of the 30th anniversary of Lemmings this year?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy - Hard]
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2021, 06:53:42 AM »
Thanks kaywhyn!

In regards to the title, I'm going to assume that it's in honor of the 30th anniversary of Lemmings this year?

It is! And I "stole" the title from this great ad for ONML, drawing by Adrian Powell:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy - Hard]
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2021, 10:11:43 AM »
Congratulation for releasing the second pack! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
It was really fun and honor to be the pre-tester for this pack.


Like NieSch's first pack "Yippee! More Lemmings", it only uses styles from original game but features brand new Neolemmix skills.(including slider which was implemented just today :lem-mindblown:)
The difficulty is beginner friendly at the first rank, increases at a nice rate and there're some tough nuts for even expert solvers toward the end.
So, I definetely recommend giving this pack a go for everyone. You can enjoy great level desinging skills and puzzles by NieSch as usual. :D
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy - Hard]
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2021, 04:50:12 PM »
So much to play right now. I will 100% try this one for I really liked your first pack.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2021, 09:19:12 AM »
Update: V1.2, see first post for download (attachment).

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2021, 10:22:53 AM »
Update: V1.3, see first post for download (attachment).

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2021, 07:12:10 AM »
Has anyone played this yet? I'm looking forward to getting some feedback and I'm very curious what new backroutes are found. :)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2021, 08:07:12 AM »
Hi Niesch,

I'm very close to getting to your pack. This is next on my to-play list, once I finish up Integral Lemmings, so it all depends on how long that pack takes me :) I can't imagine it taking too long, particularly since it's only 20 levels, and I've already managed to solve the first 5 levels. Currently stuck on the 6th level, but I think I can get myself unstuck, just need more time to think about it.

I'm looking forward to playing the levels with the new skill(s) when I get to your pack! Should be a fun LP for both you and Armani to watch
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2021, 10:30:55 AM »
Take your time kaywhyn and ignore my impatience! :crylaugh: ;)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2021, 06:41:08 AM »
Hi Niesch,

I'm just posting to let you know that I've started LPing this pack just today, so as promised here's the link to my LP: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJvOc1YVa8xSUjK293Q9HYSA. Enjoy! :P

I've also completed the first two ranks, so here are my replays and feedback.

General Feedback

Great pack that I'm enjoying with what I've seen so far. None have been extremely hard so far, so I definitely can see what you mean when you told me that you "feel" it's easier than Yippee! More Lemmings, although both the Fun and the Tricky ranks weren't exactly lightning fast solves. Then again, I was stuck on that final level of Tricky for a time in your first pack, so maybe overall I am having a somewhat easier time with LLL! I'm sure that will all change with Taxing and Mayhem, especially since I remember the huge jump in difficulty going from even Fun to Tricky and even more once entering the Taxing rank in Yippee! More Lemmings.

So far, I think there have only been 5 levels featuring the slider, with the hardest one so far I felt was Fun 4. Certainly the one I like the best so far featuring the slider is Fun 2. There was one level that I didn't use it, so that might be a backroute.

Fun Rank Feedback

Nice puzzles here, although I wouldn't exactly say any were super easy. However, the Fun rank of this pack felt somewhat easier or about the same difficulty as the fun rank of Yippee! More Lemmings.

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Tricky Rank Feedback

The levels here were pretty much about the same level of difficulty as the Fun levels, maybe only a bit higher.

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Looking forward to starting again soon and seeing how I get on with the remainder of the pack. Great one and awesome that Armani suggested/recommended me to LP this pack of yours, Niesch! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2021, 07:41:56 AM »
Hi Niesch,

I'm just posting to let you know that I've started LPing this pack just today, so as promised here's the link to my LP: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJvOc1YVa8xSUjK293Q9HYSA. Enjoy! :P

Great watch and well done! Thanks a lot for your detailed feedback too. I really appreciate it. :thumbsup:

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Well done again and enjoy the rest of the pack. I'll definitely watch the video's! 8-)


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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2021, 09:30:17 AM »
I solved the rest of the pack, i.e, the Taxing, Mayhem, and Bonus ranks. I'm back with more replays and feedback :)

Taxing Rank Feedback

Levels are a bit harder here, and this was the first rank that I didn't get completely solved in just one video.

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Mayhem Rank Feedback

Even harder levels here, although I interestingly didn't struggle as much here as I did in the Taxing rank. Probably because there are no slider levels in this rank!

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Bonus Rank Feedback

For levels in a rank called "Bonus," these were quite difficult!

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With the completion of this pack, I must say job well-done for your second pack, Niesch! Thank you for this, and also thanks to Armani for suggesting/recommending this pack for me to LP due to his pretesting of the pack. Just like Yippee! More Lemmings, LLL! may be a short pack, but don't expect it to be a quick solve. Niesch's levels are characterized by being challenging, so that even people like me still take a while to solve them. However, I definitely enjoyed the challenges within, and I don't mind hard levels, as these are the types of levels I prefer to play/solve. I especially enjoyed playing with the slider skill in this pack. It's almost been a year since I've played levels with either of the new skills, although it's been even longer since I haven't played any laserer levels. That will all change once I start playing Armani's pack.

Glad you're doing well and that you're enjoying my LP very much! :) As usual, I look forward to reading your feedback/remarks on my solution, either here, on my LP videos, or both!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2021, 11:10:29 AM »
Well done completing the pack kaywhyn! :party:

About your solutions:

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Thanks a lot again for the videos and your feedback! :thumbsup:

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2021, 05:37:03 PM »
Here it is already, the "post kaywhyn update":

Update: V2.0, see first post for download (attachment).

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2021, 11:01:02 AM »
Update: V2.1, see first post for downloads (level pack and updated solutions).

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2021, 04:03:25 PM »
Update: V3.0, see first post for downloads (level pack and updated solutions).

Changes: I've added an extra Bonus level.


Bonus 5: All the Good Lems go to Hell

Style: SMS Fire

At first I made this level for the current level design contest, but I made a mistake and found out it doesn't fit any of the rules (that I haven't made a previous entry for). So instead of making it a contest entry I include it in this pack.

Also included in the zip file of the pack is a custom music track for this level. It's an 8Bit version of Billie Eilish's "All the Good Girls go to Hell" made by this YouTuber.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2021, 03:54:57 PM by NieSch »

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2021, 02:13:12 AM »
backroute? ???
Armani's Blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

My NL level pack:
  Lemmings Uncharted[Medium~Extreme]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5702
  Xmas Lemmings 2021[Easy~Very Hard]: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5876.0

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2021, 05:54:37 AM »
It is! I'll fix it soon and send it you to playtest. :)

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2021, 03:08:01 PM »
Update: V3.1, see first post for downloads (level pack and updated solutions).

Armani and I hade a nice backroute/update battle over my latest bonus level.

Armani won. :crylaugh:

So even though Armani still has alternative solutions to the level (I can't call them backroutes really!) I put in an updated version of it that eliminates a lot of other easier backroutes.

Also I changed the order of the Bonus level rank a bit.

Now the pack contains 29 levels. Since Long Live Lemmings! is a bit about celebrating 30 year of Lemmings I think I'll add a final bonus level later this year to make it a nice 30 levels in total. :)

Edit: Update: V3.2 (Red arrow in latest Bonus level moved 1 pixel to the left)
« Last Edit: October 06, 2021, 03:02:40 PM by NieSch »

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Re: [NeoLemmix] Long Live Lemmings! [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2021, 06:06:24 AM »
Update: V4.0, see first post for downloads (level pack and updated solutions).

Changes: I've added an extra Bonus level and changed the order of the levels in the Bonus rank. The new level is Bonus 1.


Bonus 1: Dr Lemminggood's Latest Invention

Style: SMS Marble

This is the 30th and definitely the final level for the pack, no more levels will be added. Future updates will only be backroute fixes and stuff like that. :)

Edit: Update: V4.1 (An aesthetic matter of 1 pixel in the latest level)
« Last Edit: October 24, 2021, 09:03:02 AM by NieSch »

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels now) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2021, 03:38:41 PM »
I just solved the pack and attached my replays. I think there might still be a few backroutes left. ;)

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels now) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2021, 07:54:48 AM »
Thanks for playing Icho! Hope you enjoyed it. I'm quite relieved it's only 5 levels I have to find backroute fixes for. Could have been a lot worse. ;)

Well done! :thumbsup:

Edit:

Update: V4.2, see first post for downloads (level pack and updated solutions).

I changed 5 levels a bit to fix IchoTolot's latest backroutes:

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Tricky 3: The L-Team
« Last Edit: October 23, 2021, 07:46:25 PM by NieSch »

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2021, 02:05:09 PM »
I resolved the levels! :)

I have an additional remark though on Taxing 2 the Tarzan and Jane one:

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2021, 07:41:47 PM »
Good suggestion, I'll change that. Bonus 2 is intended now.:)

Update: V4.3, see first post for downloads (level pack and updated solutions).

Other changes I made to fix IchoTolot's latest backroutes:

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Taxing 2: Tarzan & Jane (Part II)

Edit: Update: V4.4

Another small change in Taxing 1.
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Taxing 1: You Better Watch Out
« Last Edit: October 24, 2021, 09:12:58 AM by NieSch »

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2021, 10:53:36 AM »
Here are my resolves again. :)

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2021, 01:58:58 PM »
Here are my resolves again. :)

Thanks a lot! I appreciate that.

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Well done! :thumbsup:

Update: V4.5

Changes made to two levels:

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Credits added: thanks to kaywhyn and IchoTolot for finding more backroutes. 8-)
« Last Edit: October 25, 2021, 03:56:33 PM by NieSch »

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2021, 02:21:51 PM »
More resolves. :)

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2021, 02:55:35 PM »
You know what? You win! I know when I'm beaten. :crylaugh: ;) :thumbsup:

Edit: Update: V4.6

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Bonus 5: All the Good Lems go to Hell
« Last Edit: October 25, 2021, 03:54:16 PM by NieSch »

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2021, 08:23:07 PM »
Here are my updated replays. :)

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2021, 08:01:21 AM »
Here are my updated replays. :)

Excellent! 8-)

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Re: Long Live Lemmings! (30 levels) [Difficulty: Easy-Hard]
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2022, 08:57:05 AM »
Update: V5.0, see first post for download (attachment).

Changes: landscape change in Tricky 3 "The L-team" (to fix Swerdis' backroute)
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Edit: Update: V5.1

Changes: landscape change in Mayhem 6 "Jolly Jumpers"
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Edit 2: Update: V5.2

Changes: landscape change in Bonus 2 "Working Lem Blues"
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Edit 3: Update: V5.3

Changes: landscape change in Bonus 5 "All the Good Lems go to Hell"
I fixed this backroute by kaywhyn by adding some fire.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2022, 06:52:41 PM by NieSch »