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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2020, 12:27:08 AM »
Crap! :forehead::forehead::forehead: I forgot to take the test lemming out of Level 9, soooooo stupid of me haha, I was even thinking that I needed to make sure to remember to take that out! I'll definitely have to release an emergency patch to fix that horrible mistake :XD:
Level 10 is a backroute again

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2021, 01:58:41 PM »
Resolved updated levels.

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2021, 02:22:04 PM »
Here are my solutions! :thumbsup:

I think I've got mostly intended ones, but a few backroutes as well. ;)

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2021, 03:09:14 PM »
@Armani
1 new intended, but 6 more backroutes :XD:
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@IchoTolot
Yep loads of backroutes :8(): 10, thats half the pack!
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Update for all these coming some time soon! (There's a lot to fix)

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2021, 07:08:11 PM »
Pack updated and attached to the first post

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2021, 08:40:51 AM »
Resolved updated levels
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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2021, 05:25:34 PM »
1 new (sort of ;) ) intended solution!

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2021, 11:28:17 AM »
At least one intended solution everytime. Not bad ;P
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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2021, 12:39:17 PM »
Continuing with the trend with 1 new intended per attempt

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2021, 11:22:18 AM »
I hope the trend with at least one intended solution keeps going.
But I doubt any of my solution is intended today. :(
I found very similar solutions overall.
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  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2021, 12:38:01 PM »
Yeah all four are backroutes this time around, attaching updated version

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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2021, 06:02:04 AM »
It's been a while since I last solved this pack. Here're my replays for remaining 4 levels :8():
Three replays for Hard17 and one for Hard13,19,20 respectively.
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Re: [NL] Gronkling's Animal Pack: #1 RODENTS [difficulty: Easy & Hard]
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2021, 07:52:03 AM »
Hi Gronkling,

I have finished the pack. I have attached my replays for both the Easy and Hard ranks.

I also have a complete LP of your pack for your viewing pleasure

Link to my LP of the pack: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJvFaH8nIk2mH7x0HbXtrHrE. Enjoy! :P

Although I've solved the Easy rank after finishing the Hard rank, I must say the corresponding easy levels still aren't that much easier. Indeed, they may be more open-ended, but some of them are still just as tricky/challenging :P Anyway, those replays aren't really of interest other than I say level 7

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Instead, it's the replays for the hard levels that are of interest.

General Remarks on the Pack

A lot of these were very nicely designed. I like how on almost every level the rodent is on the sides. Some of these are ones I've never heard of. The defining characteristic of your levels is that they're quite small with very minimal skillsets, but that doesn't mean they're easy. Indeed, these were quite difficult, and I ended up solving most of them after a lot of struggling. The hardest levels for me were Hard 16 and Hard 20. For the former, a lot of the things I tried would had worked had I had 1 more skill.

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For the latter, I don't know if the solution is supposed to be very precise, as I use 4 pixel perfect assignments.

Hard 9 and 12 - Gerbil: Derelict Obstacle Course were also difficult for me, although I don't know if the super precise basher/stacker is intended at the end for the former, while the latter was an extremely difficult one to figure out, especially since a lot of the things I tried kept failing by a pixel or so. I did learn something new in this level, though.

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My favorites were Hard 1, 4, 5, 11 and 18 - Groundhog: Sport Pod. For the last one, I recall using this trick a lot when I was attempting to solve Niesch's level from the previous contest, and when I remembered this, that was the clicking moment. Had I not seen it before, I likely would had been stuck here for far longer.

Levels that I think I backrouted: Hard 13, 14, 15, 17, and 19.

Now some feedback on some levels themselves.

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These aren't the only levels of yours that I have played. I've also played your Gronkling6 and Gronkling7 Lemmini packs. For the former, there's only 1 level I haven't solved yet, which is the final one, Bring It Together. There was one other level that for a long time I couldn't solve, The Mystery Machine, but I finally solved that a couple of weeks ago after being stuck on it for a little over 3 years. Indeed, I never would had figured that glitch out on my own had it not been for the Lemmini glitch topic, as that is a result I would not expect at all with the floater skill. Not to mention I had never ever seen it before even though I have played so many levels on Lemmini long before reaching that level of yours in the Bonus rank of RotL.

For the latter, I think I solved all of them. So yes, your levels are definitely quite challenging, but I eventually am able to figure them out. The biggest exception was The Mystery Machine, but again that was all due to not knowing about the glitch that's needed to solve it :crylaugh:

Overall, nice job with this small Animal pack of yours. Looking forward to more content from you in the future and am glad to see you back around here in the Forums after your long extended absence :P
« Last Edit: March 10, 2021, 08:44:52 AM by kaywhyn »
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