[SuperLemmini] Reverse Lemmings

Colorful Arty · April 04, 2016, 12:15:18 AM

It's here! And much sooner than I expected!

Reverse Lemmings contains all 120 levels from the original Amiga Lemmings, but with a new twist; the entrances and exits have been swapped! With this simple gimmick, you can also expect to see different skill sets, time limits, release rates, and maybe even number of lemmings on a given level. You can expect to visit parts of the levels you never had to in the original game! (I also tweaked a tiny bit of terrain on a small handful of levels, but only the eagle-eyed will ever notice, and believe me, it was in everyone's best interest that I did so.)

Reverse Lemmings has a difficulty much more close to the original Lemmings than to your typical custom levelpack, but there are a few good puzzles in there to throw you off. Also, the difficulty curve is all over the place, since there are some levels in the late game that are almost impossible to make difficult, while some levels in Tricky and Taxing are much more difficult by comparison.

Download instructions:

1. Click the download link in the attachments below
2. Unzip the file and put Reverse Lemmings into your SuperLemmini "levels" file, and replace the "mods" file in SuperLemmini with the "mods" file you download. (Or add the contents of the downloaded "mods" file into your "mods" file) (Thanks IchoTolot!)
3. And that's it! Just launch SuperLemmini, and Reverse Lemmings will appear in your levelpacks when you hit select level

I did not include music for this pack, but I would highly recommend the DOS soundtrack for these levels.

Please give me feedback on the levels by posting in this page, or by private messaging me! I would love to hear your inputs!

Also, I doubt that anyone playing this pack will get stuck, but if you do and really want help, by all means, private message me which level you are stuck on, and specify whether you want the complete solution, or just a hint or two, and I will be only too happy to comply!

I think that's all, so enjoy Reverse Lemmings!

IchoTolot · April 04, 2016, 11:22:09 AM

I will take a look over the days.

But I have quite some things on my to do list right now, so the feedback will probably need a bit of time.

IchoTolot · April 04, 2016, 06:54:32 PM

As I took a little look into it, I encountered an error:

The special tilesets are missing! As I try to enter a special level, SuperLemmini tells me that the tileset is missing and gives me an error.

namida · April 04, 2016, 07:02:17 PM

Do they work under regular Lemmini? If so, the likely cause is that Arty didn't take into account that Lemmini and SuperLemmini handle special graphics in completely different ways (Lemmini has a "special" graphic set, which from a technical point of view is no different from a regular one and contains each level's layout as a single tile; while SuperLemmini works more similarly to how DOS L1 or NeoLemmix work in regards to them).

It's one of the very few exceptions to "Lemmini levels are 100% possible to load in SuperLemmini without any changes".

Colorful Arty · April 04, 2016, 07:12:17 PM

Terribly sorry about this.

Indeed, I made the special levels in Lemmini and just pasted them into SuperLemmini, but I don't know why it works for me and not you guys. It should be a quick fix though.

namida · April 04, 2016, 07:17:51 PM

Quote from: Colorful Arty on April 04, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
Terribly sorry about this.

Indeed, I made the special levels in Lemmini and just pasted them into SuperLemmini, but I don't know why it works for me and not you guys. It should be a quick fix though.

You've probably copied the "special" folder from your Lemmini styles, too. Although it would work visually, there's a good chance the objects won't quite have the right trigger areas (graphic sets are not as compatible between the two as levels are).

Colorful Arty · April 04, 2016, 07:20:40 PM

I fixed the AWESOME and MENACING levels, but NeoLemmix Editor will not open the SuperLemmini original Lemmings levels Beast 1 and Beast 2. When I try to open them, it tells me "unknown graphic set (beastii)" for A BeastII of a level and "unknown graphic set (beasti)" for A Beast of a level. Any idea how to fix that?

IchoTolot · April 04, 2016, 07:21:16 PM

Quote from: Colorful Arty on April 04, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
Terribly sorry about this.

Indeed, I made the special levels in Lemmini and just pasted them into SuperLemmini, but I don't know why it works for me and not you guys. It should be a quick fix though.

Fixed your pack

Steps to make:

1.) make a "Reverse Lemmings" folder in the mod folder
2.) make a "styles" folder in it
3.) copy the "special" folder of the regular Lemmini styles into it
4.) open "levelpack.ini" of yor pack
5.) add "mods = Reverse Lemmings" right above the line with "codeSeed"
6.) fixed

Colorful Arty · April 04, 2016, 07:24:04 PM

You're a miracle worker IchoTolot!

I would ideally like to give those special levels the SuperLemmini look though, the levels themselves don't look as good as they should, but I'm having trouble getting NeoLemmix Editor to load the beast 1 and 2 levels. I had no problem loading the menace and awesome levels though...

IchoTolot · April 04, 2016, 07:32:56 PM

Quote from: Colorful Arty on April 04, 2016, 07:24:04 PM
You're a miracle worker IchoTolot!

I would ideally like to give those special levels the SuperLemmini look though, the levels themselves don't look as good as they should, but I'm having trouble getting NeoLemmix Editor to load the beast 1 and 2 levels. I had no problem loading the menace and awesome levels though...

Well, I will play on with this fix for now. The special tilesets are often a hassle. Nepster can sing a song about this converting all of the old Lemmix archive.

Gronkling even made complete NeoLemmix tilesets out of menace and BeastII: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2457.0

Colorful Arty · April 04, 2016, 07:43:11 PM

I updated the download link so it SHOULD work now. I am SO sorry for the probLEMS the special file caused.

namida · April 04, 2016, 11:26:51 PM

I'll take a look when I get home, and see if it is indeed a problem with the editor (and if so, fix it).

Tsyu · April 05, 2016, 12:09:07 AM

I checked this out myself. I can create levels with those special graphic sets, but I can't load them, even those that I had just saved it in the editor. The only sets that don't have this problem are Awesome, Menace, and Covox.

IchoTolot · April 05, 2016, 02:17:42 PM

@ Colorful Arty: Can you send me a solving replay to Taxing 28 "POOR WEE CREATURES"?

I think I found something

Colorful Arty · April 05, 2016, 03:05:31 PM

Oh. My. Gosh.

For whatever reason, when I removed the blank space from the ends of the level, a builder was removed from the skill list, probably me pushing the wrong buttons by mistake in the editor.

If you found a solution using only one builder, then amazing! If not, either redownload or just add an extra builder to that level.

I am so sorry. When I tested the level, I had 2 builders. I honestly have no idea how that happened.