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Reloaded
« on: September 19, 2012, 12:58:45 am »
Reloaded Expansion Game: For Lix

Status  :  Ready and very playable!   I have done quite extensive testing (gone through all maps twice and more for certain maps now)   I have replays for every map.
Only thing missing from this expansion project being 100% complete are 2 of the unique style maps which need re-creation still.   If someone would kindly like to try come up with something, then please do!   

Reloaded is an expansion pack for Lix that you can download from this thread.  It will not be included directly in the Lix download file.

                    -A Full single player expansion pack with recreations of the original levels from the 'Lemmings' game but with graphics only from Lix
                    -Completely new puzzles and level names for every map.
                    -Reloaded uses ONLY the original 8 skills to give it the classic feel.
                     
                                                                                   



Statistic Challenges    If you do any better on any of the challenge stats that I have been posting, show me proof (such as pastebin) and i'll update it with your name in parenthesis ()     Just to stop having all replays available while the puzzles are fresh and new :)

Note: Fastest time challenge is the person who has the best full second time only ( we are not playing for frames ) eliminates the over-use of the replay function for sillyness!

 Most Saved   |   Least Skills Used   |   Fastest Completion Time   |   or any other stats you would like included that you think are worthy of being displayed.

                                                                                       


Additional Info About The Level Re-creations   
- Minor differences that were necessary, or helped create interesting puzzles :  Trap additions / Reverse direction entrances / Lix amounts & spawn rates / Some terrain differences

WARNING:
If you are an absolute beginner, you should buy the game 'Lemmings' to have a better introduction to the game before playing this ;)

Reloaded keeps the 4 "difficulty" brackets, but don't rely on that, its more to break the levels into the blocks of 30 maps. 
Basically you could find the puzzles ranging from a tricky to mayhem difficulty in each section, though degu is still the easiest set to complete.   

Unique bracket naming are as follows:  Degu / Beaver / Porcupine / Capybara



Have fun  :thumbsup:
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Updates & Changelog:
           
Nov 11:  4 'difficulty' levels now properly named.     Degu, Beaver, Porcupine, Capybara (thanks Simon/geoo for the ideas)
                Degu01 : Removed the timer.
                Beaver29 : Recreated the level & puzzle with smaller red balls to match the original semicircular height correctly.

Nov 13:  Some slight modifications to a few maps in 'Degu' to make a little bit easier.
              Couple maps from minimac renamed at his request
              4 backroutes fixed by minimac on Capybara puzzles
              Capybara 19 puzzle modified to make more difficult

Nov 14: Let's block and blow / Bomboozal puzzles added.   2 remain (unique maps to recreate)

Nov 15  Made a few minor modifications in the Porcupine set which makes all testing for reloaded finally complete!!

Status: Well tested and playable!



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Level Breakdown:


             
Difficulty: Fun<---------------------------><--------------------------->Difficulty: Degu


 1         Just Dig!                                       <---------------------------> Get Ready To Reload! (rubix)   
            Stats:    Saved:9 (+0)                    Least Skills Used: 3   (rubix)

 2         Only Floaters can survive this         <---------------------------> If only we had floaters... (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:7 (+2) (rubix)         Least Skills Used: 5   (rubix)

 3         Tailor-made for blockers                <---------------------------> Reverse Engineering (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:47 (+5) (proxima)       Least Skills Used: 7

 4         Now use miners and climbers         <---------------------------> Crossing the gap in a snap?? (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:10 (+1) (proxima)        Least Skills Used:  4 (rubix)

 5         You need bashers this time             <---------------------------> It's Crystal Clear (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:50                             Least Skills Used:  11 (proxima)

 6         A task for blockers and bombers     <---------------------------> Char broiled (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:50 (+30) (proxima)       Least Skills Used:  7 (rubix)

 7         Builders will help you here              <---------------------------> Classic Redirection (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:48 (+0)                    Least Skills Used:  6

 8         Not as complicated as it looks       <---------------------------> More complicated than calculus (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:76 (+11)  (proxima)       Least Skills Used:  8 (rubix)

 9         As long as you try your best         <---------------------------> Pink it's the color of passion (rubix) 
            Stats:    Saved:77 (+2)  (proxima)       Least Skills Used:  5 (proxima)      Time taken   0:36 (rubix)

 10        Smile if you love lemmings         <---------------------------> Bridge Tactics 101 (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:20 (+5)  (clam)       Least Skills Used:  13 (rubix)

 11        Keep your hair on Mr. Lemming   <---------------------------> It's all in the ordering (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:18 (+0)                   Least Skills Used:  9 (proxima)          Time taken  1:31 (rubix)

 12        Patience                                     <---------------------------> Close Call (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:69 (+14)  (rubix)     Least Skills Used: 7                Time taken   1:05 (rubix)

 13        We all fall down                         <---------------------------> Safe Fall (Graphics: Clam, Puzzle: rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:19 (+1)  (rubix)     Least Skills Used: 4 (proxima)

 14        Origins and Lemmings                <---------------------------> Staying Ontop Of Things (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:80 (+0)                 Least Skills Used: 26 (proxima)      Time taken  7:32 (rubix)

 15        Don't let your eyes deceive you   <---------------------------> Tow Tipping (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:80 (+0)                 Least Skills Used: 27 (proxima)    Time taken 7:54 (proxima)

 16        Don't do anything too hasty        <---------------------------> The Rescue of Eighty Angels (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:80 (+0)                 Least Skills Used: 12 (proxima)

 17        Easy when you know how           <---------------------------> Come Together (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:45 (+15)  (proxima)     Least Skills Used: 6 (proxima) 

 18        Let's block and blow                          <--------------------------->  Traverse The Panda's Den  (graphics clam / puzzle rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:  68 (+0)                    Least Skills Used:  3 (rubix)

 19        Take good care of my Lemmings  <---------------------------> The Power Plant (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:77 (+0)                 Least Skills Used: 11 (proxima)

 20        We are now at LEMCON ONE        <---------------------------> Look Around And You'll Find... (graphics minimac/rubix)(puzzle rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:59 (+1) (proxima)                Least Skills Used: 12 (proxima)

 21        You Live and Lem                       <---------------------------> Guarding a potential hazard (minimac)
             Stats:    Saved:47 (+2)  (proxima)     Least Skills Used: 13 (proxima)   Time taken : 4:42 (proxima)

 22        A Beast of a level (unique)          <--------------------------->   *** Needs Re-Creation Still ***   
             Stats:    Saved:                              Least Skills Used:

 23        I've lost that Lemming feeling      <---------------------------> Caution: Rodent Crossing (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:79 (+7)  (proxima)      Least Skills Used: 8   (proxima)

 24        Konbanwa Lemming san              <---------------------------> A Blue Moon Rises (graphics minimac/rubix)(puzzle rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:29 (+0)                     Least Skills Used: 6               Time taken 1:42 (rubix)

 25        Lemmings Lemmings everywhere <---------------------------> Tactical Torment (graphics minimac)(puzzle rubix)
             Stats:    Saved:28 (+0)                     Least Skills Used: 6 (proxima)

 26        Nightmare on Lem street           <---------------------------> Wrong way  (minimac)
             Stats:    Saved: 50 (+0)                    Least Skills Used: 9  (proxima)

 27        Let's be careful out there         <---------------------------> Lix Luthor's House (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 49 (+2) (proxima)      Least Skills Used: 9  (proxima)

 28        If only they could fly               <---------------------------> Not Enough Blockers  (minimac)
             Stats:    Saved: 80 (+5) (proxima)     Least Skills Used:  11   (rubix)

 29        worra lorra lemmings              <---------------------------> Repaired And ready For Use  (minimac)
             Stats:    Saved: 80(+20) (rubix)   Least Skills Used:  16   (rubix)

 30        Lock up your Lemmings             <---------------------------> Unlock your lemmings! (minimac)
             Stats:    Saved: 59 (+0)                Least Skills Used: 4   (proxima)






Difficulty: Tricky<---------------------------><---------------------------> Difficulty: Beaver


 1         This should be a doddle!                 <---------------------------> This should be a doozy!  (Clam)
            Stats:    Saved:71 (+1)  (rubix)      Least Skills Used: 14   (rubix)

 2         We all fall down                             <---------------------------> A Long Fall (Graphics: Clam, Puzzle: rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:12 (+2)  (rubix)      Least Skills Used: 34   (rubix)

 3         A ladder would be handy                <---------------------------> Delaying The Inevitable  (Clam) 
            Stats:    Saved:80 (+0)                   Least Skills Used: 13     Time taken    2:36 (rubix)         

 4        Here's one I prepared earlier          <---------------------------> ICEBERG! Roiight Ahead! (Graphics Clam, Puzzle Rubix)
           Stats:    Saved:79 (+0)                 Least Skills Used: 21 (rubix)

 5         Careless clicking costs lives            <--------------------------->  Newton's Cradle Early Design (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved:78 (+0)                 Least Skills Used: 13      Time taken   1:56 (rubix)

 6         Lemmingology                               <---------------------------> Threedom (rubix)
            Stats:   Saved: 3(+0)                    Least Skills Used: 10   (rubix)

 7         Been there, seen it, done it             <---------------------------> The Perfect Fall (rubix)
            Stats:   Saved: 49(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 18 

 8         Lemming sanctuary in sight             <---------------------------> Redundant Platforms (rubix)
            Stats:   Saved: 79(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 16 (rubix)

 9          They just keep on coming              <---------------------------> Walking away from danger  (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 50(+0)                  Least Skills Used: 13   (rubix)
 
 10        There's a lot of them about            <---------------------------> Turn Off The Left Burner! (graphics minimac)(puzzle rubix)
             Stats:   Saved: 37(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 32 (rubix)

 11        Lemmings in the attic                    <---------------------------> Entering a top security room (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 48(+2)  (rubix)       Least Skills Used: 12 (rubix)

 12        Bitter Lemming                             <---------------------------> A spoonful of lix curd (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 19(+0)                  Least Skills Used: 32

 13        Lemming Drops                            <---------------------------> Try this one again! (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 76(+4) (rubix)       Least Skills Used: 23   (rubix)

 14        MENACING!! (unique)                    <---------------------------> Oriental Excursion (minimac)
             Stats:    Saved: 77(+1) (rubix)      Least Skills Used: 19   (rubix)

 15        Ozone friendly Lemmings               <---------------------------> Revisitation Rights (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 1(+0)                  Least Skills Used: 3   

 16        Luvly Jubly                                   <--------------------------->  Vandalized Chain Fencing (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 50(+0)                Least Skills Used: 9       Time taken   2:24 (rubix)

 17        Diet Lemmingaid                           <---------------------------> Torment The Weak (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 49(+1) (rubix)     Least Skills Used: 20 (rubix)

 18        It's Lemmingentry Watson             <--------------------------->  Pillar Pandemonium (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 9(+0)                  Least Skills Used: 8 (rubix)

 19        Postcard from Lemmingland           <---------------------------> Entry Denied  (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 49 (+0)                Least Skills Used: 8         [Found 2 very different start strategies though both methods use 8 skills] (rubix)

 20        One way digging to freedom          <---------------------------> Freedom is Thataway ----> (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 77 (+0)                Least Skills Used: 10 (rubix)

 21        All the 6's ........                            <---------------------------> Inside The Beast (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 65 (+0)                Least Skills Used: 12

 22        Turn around young lemmings!        <---------------------------> Fencing With Ghosts (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 80 (+0)                Least Skills Used: 23 (rubix)

 23        From The Boundary Line                <---------------------------> Rights of Passage (rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 70 (+1)  (rubix)     Least Skills Used: 8

 24        Tightrope City                              <---------------------------> Improper landing (minimac)
             Stats:    Saved: 78 (+3)  (rubix)     Least Skills Used: 8 (rubix)

 25        Cascade                                      <---------------------------> Its Our Claim To Fame (rubix)
             Saved: 18 (+1)  (rubix)     Least Skills Used: 9

 26        I have a cunning plan                    <---------------------------> And Pink Gets Me High As A Kite (rubix)
             Saved: 80 (+0)                 Least Skills Used: 24 (rubix)

 27        The Island of the Wicker people     <---------------------------> Sacrificial Combustion (rubix)
              Saved: 72 (+1) (rubix)      Least Skills Used: 12

 28        Lost Something ?                          <---------------------------> Limited And Lost (rubix)
             Saved: 80 (+0)                  Least Skills Used: 9

 29        Rainbow Island                             <---------------------------> Few Skills, Total Confusion! (rubix)
             Saved:  80(+0)                  Least Skills Used: 7

 30        The Crankshaft                            <---------------------------> The Bridges Of Times Past (rubix)
             Saved:  80                         Least Skills Used: 12                Time taken   2:38 (rubix)







Difficulty: Taxing<---------------------------><--------------------------->Difficulty:Porcupine


 1         If at first you don't succeed ..        <---------------------------> Only The Penitent Lix Shall Pass (rubix)
            Saved:  75 (+0)                         Least Skills Used: 26               

 2         Watch out, there's traps about       <---------------------------> Adventure In The Wilderness (rubix)
            Saved:  76 (+0)                         Least Skills Used: 13

 3         Heaven can wait (we hope!!!!)       <---------------------------> 'Queue' up for heaven ;) (rubix)
            Saved: 80(+0)                           Least Skills Used: 91

 4         Lend a helping hand ....                <---------------------------> Escape The Temple Of Anubis (rubix)
            Saved: 36 (+0)                           Least Skills Used: 20

 5         The Prison!                                 <---------------------------> Wishing For A Longer Sentence (rubix)
            Saved: 55 (+0)                           Least Skills Used: 24 (rubix)
         
 6         Compression Method 1                  <---------------------------> Come Together Method 2 (rubix)
            Saved: 50                                   Least Skills Used: 15

 7         Every Lemming for himself!!!         <---------------------------> April 15, 1912 (Graphics Clam, Puzzle Rubix)
           Saved:   71(+0)                            Least Skills Used: 15

 8         The Art Gallery                             <---------------------------> Cradle Physics Adjustment (rubix)
            Stats:    Saved: 78(+0)                Least Skills Used: 16

 9         Perseverence                               <---------------------------> Excavation Condemned (rubix)
            Saved: 17 (+0)                             Least Skills Used: 21

 10        Izzie Wizzie lemmings get busy     <---------------------------> One : Oh Five !? (rubix)
             Saved: 5 (+0)                              Least Skills Used: 10        Time taken 1:04 (rubix)

 11        The ascending pillar scenario        <---------------------------> More Than Generous (rubix)
             Saved: 50 (+0)                             Least Skills Used: 64 (rubix)
 
 12        Livin' On The Edge                       <---------------------------> Locked In A Cage Of Emotion (rubix)
            Saved:  7 (+0)                               Least Skills Used: 19

 13        Upsidedown World                       <---------------------------> Take Care In My Nightmare (rubix)
             Saved: 78 (+0)                             Least Skills Used: 19

 14        Hunt the Nessy ....                       <---------------------------> An Easy Method To Be Found! (rubix)
             Saved: 72 (+0)                              Least Skills Used: 46 (rubix)

 15        What an AWESOME level (unique) <---------------------------> *** Needs Re-Creation Still ***      
              Saved:                                           Least Skills Used:

 16        Mary Poppins' land                      <---------------------------> Mary Poppins Returns For Winter (rubix)   
             Saved:75                                        Least Skills Used: 19

 17        X marks the spot                        <---------------------------> What's Left Is Right (rubix)
             Saved: 72(+1) (rubix)                     Least Skills Used: 14

 18        Tribute to M.C. Escher                 <---------------------------> Bank Vault Bandits (rubix)
             Saved: 73(+0)                                 Least Skills Used: 26 (rubix)
 
 19        Bomboozal                                  <---------------------------> Bamboozal (graphics clam / puzzle rubix)
             Stats:    Saved: 99(+0)                 Least Skills Used: 16 (rubix)

 20        Walk the web rope                       <---------------------------> In A World So Cold (rubix)
             Saved: 74 (+1) (rubix)                    Least Skills Used: 34 (rubix)

 21        Feel the heat!                              <---------------------------> Drop It Like It's Hot (rubix)
             Saved: 16                                       Least Skills Used: 16

 22        Come on over to my place           <---------------------------> Chim Chimney Chim Chimney (rubix)
             Saved: 45 (+2) (rubix)                     Least Skills Used: 9 (rubix)

 23        King of the castle                         <---------------------------> Construction Company Cutbacks (rubix)
             Saved: 97 (+0)                                Least Skills Used: 15

 24        Take a running jump                    <---------------------------> Find That Sweet Spot (rubix)
             Saved: 79 (+1) (rubix)                     Least Skills Used: 10

 25        Follow the leader ...                     <---------------------------> The Lumber Mill (rubix)
             Saved: 77                                        Least Skills Used:23

 26        Triple Trouble                              <---------------------------> Evil Premonition (rubix)
             Saved: 56                                        Least Skills Used:52

 27        Call in the bomb squad                <---------------------------> One Step Beyond (rubix)   
             Saved: 77                                        Least Skills Used:14  (rubix)

 28       POOR WEE CREATURES!               <---------------------------> We Can't All Be Survivors (rubix)
            Saved: 54                                          Least Skills Used : 12

 29        How do I dig up the way ?            <---------------------------> Bangarang! (Clam)
            Saved: 53 (+3) (rubix)                       Least Skills Used: 68 (rubix)

 30       We all fall down                            <---------------------------> Free Falling (Clam)
            Saved: 20 (+0)                                   Least Skills Used: 9








Difficulty: Mayhem<---------------------------><--------------------------->Difficulty: Capybara


 1         Steel Works                                  <---------------------------> More Steel in the works (minimac)
            Stats:    Saved: 19(+9) (proxima)       Least Skills Used:  34  (rubix)

 2         The Boiler Room                            <---------------------------> Not too hot a boiler  (minimac)
             Stats:    Saved: 77(+7) (proxima)      Least Skills Used:  9   (rubix)

 3         It's hero time!                                <---------------------------> In the blue world  (minimac)
            Stats:    Saved: (+0)                      Least Skills Used:  5  (proxima)

 4         The Crossroads                              <---------------------------> Construction works  (minimac)
            Stats:   Saved: 100(+1) (proxima)   Least Skills Used: 12  (proxima)

 5         Down, along, up. In that order         <---------------------------> Taking Directions  (minimac)
            Stats:   Saved: 76(+1)   (rubix)      Least Skills Used: 18  (proxima)

 6         One way or another                     <---------------------------> Keep Coming And Pay The Price (graphics minimac)(puzzle rubix)
            Stats:   Saved: 45(+7) (proxima)                  Least Skills Used: 12

 7         Poles Apart                                    <---------------------------> Have Some Red Sticks  (minimac)
            Stats:   Saved: 60(+6)  (proxima)       Least Skills Used: 17   (rubix)

 8         Last one out is a rotten egg!            <---------------------------> Slow Release Energy  (minimac)
            Stats:   Saved: 49(+4)  (proxima)       Least Skills Used: 13   (rubix)

 9         Curse of the Pharoahs                    <---------------------------> Going Underground  (minimac)
            Stats:   Saved: 80(+5)  (proxima)       Least Skills Used: 19   (rubix)

 10        Pillars of Hercules                          <---------------------------> Split Decision  (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 45(+5)  (proxima)      Least Skills Used: 22   (rubix)

 11        We all fall down                             <---------------------------> Catch My Fall (Clam)
             Stats:   Saved: 20(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 16   (proxima)

 12        The Far Side                                 <---------------------------> Cold Feet  (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 75(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 20   (rubix)

 13        The Great Lemming Caper             <---------------------------> Halfway through the ruins  (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 50(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 7   (proxima)

 14        Pea Soup                                      <---------------------------> A Portion for 1000 Lix  (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 10(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 23   (proxima)

 15        The Fast Food Kitchen                    <---------------------------> Hot Platforms  (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 76(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 17   (rubix)

 16        Just a Minute ...                             <---------------------------> Just two minutes... (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 50(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 5   (rubix)

 17        Stepping Stones                            <---------------------------> Hopping on the stepping stones  (minimac) 
             Stats:   Saved 57 (+0)                  Least Skills Used : 15 (Clam)              Time Taken: 2:35 (clam)

 18        And then there were four ...           <---------------------------> Carnival Playhouse (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 57(+0)                  Least Skills Used: 24   (rubix)             Time Taken: 2:47 (proxima)

 19        Time to get up!                              <---------------------------> Security level upgraded (graphics minimac)  (puzzle minimac/rubix)
             Stats:   Saved: 48(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 11   (rubix)

 20        No added colours or Lemmings     <---------------------------> Artificially Flavored Lix (rubix)
             Stats:   Saved: 18(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 7  (rubix)
       
 21        With a twist of lemming please     <---------------------------> With a coating of lemon paint please (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 45(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 14  (rubix)

 22        A BeastII  (unique)                        <---------------------------> Midnight Dash  (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 80(+20) (proxima)       Least Skills Used: 22  (proxima)            Time Taken  3:58 (proxima)

 23        Going up .......                              <---------------------------> Can't go up! (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 77(+7) (proxima)       Least Skills Used: 22  (proxima)             Time Taken  3:41 (rubix)
 
 24        All or Nothing                               <---------------------------> Tower of Despair (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 29(+2) (proxima)        Least Skills Used: 9  (rubix)

 25        Have a nice day!                         <---------------------------> Wood and steel (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 80(+8) (proxima)        Least Skills Used: 18  (rubix)

 26        The Steel Mines of Kessel           <---------------------------> Suffering (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 48(+3) (proxima)        Least Skills Used: 15  (rubix)

 27        Just a Minute (Part Two)             <---------------------------> One minute is too much! (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 50(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 9  (proxima)       Time Taken  0:54 (rubix)

 28        Mind the step .....                       <---------------------------> The Stinky Pinky Factory (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 50(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 32  (proxima)       Time Taken  6:23 (proxima)

 29        Save Me                                     <---------------------------> Take as long as you need (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 75(+3) (proxima)     Least Skills Used: 24  (proxima)       Time Taken  3:50 (rubix)

 30        Rendezvous at the Mountain     <---------------------------> A Bouncy end to the game  (minimac)
             Stats:   Saved: 23(+0)                   Least Skills Used: 40  (proxima)  Time Taken 4:30 (Proxima)


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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 09:03:47 am »
I love this idea! Unless you insist on doing the whole game yourself, then I'm more than happy to remake some levels. Like this one I just built: Tricky 1, "This should be a doozy!"

If you don't want me stepping on your toes, I can move over to ONML of course. (CSTame reloaded, woo! )

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 03:37:28 am »
I'd be up for designing some challenges for this... except I'm fairly aesthetically challenged so I'd not be so good at recreating maps. I suppose if there's levels where making a challenging path is proving hard I'll see what I can come up with.
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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 03:27:36 pm »
I've already remade King of the Castle and Rendezvous at the Mountain as 2p levels, so I removed the extra hatches to convert them back to 1p. These don't yet have new skillsets, but now whoever does these levels is saved the bother of converting the terrain 

I still have a list of my old ResEdit levels -- a set that consisted entirely of new puzzles on the original terrains. This was my very first foray into Lemmings level design, so the majority had more difficulty of execution than genuine puzzle difficulty, but there may be a few decent ideas in there that we could use.

As I found in möbius's "The skills you don't have" challenge, Fun 4 can be solved 100% with 1 builder and 1 basher. This is also true in your version.

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 05:02:33 pm »
Thanks Mobius.

I'll take dibs on using those 2 edits and making puzzles for them.


As for fun04, I had edited it yesterday to stop any way of changing spawn intervals.  Not sure if I put that in the most recent zip on here, but its fixed for the next .zip

edit: (all changes are now noted at the top of the main post now)

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2012, 10:25:25 pm »
I'll likely be too busy in real life for the next few weeks to do much on this but it is intriguing anyway, and is probably perfect for the aesthetically challenged like me since the look of a level is already pre-determined. ;)

I'm still a little confuse though as to what modifications are okay and what aren't.  What Rubix explicitly called out on the first post are only 3 things:

- can change number of lixes
- can change spawn interval (which I take to mean all 3 values [initial, max, min] can freely deviate from original)
- can add new traps (!)
- must stick to classic 8 skills

Not mentioned but presumably necessary to actually get fresh puzzles out of at least some of the levels

- change skill counts freely (can add and remove number of skills from original version, including changing both to and from a count of 0)
- change save percentage
- titles can change (this is too obvious to mention)

Not mentioned and unsure of ok or not:

- time limit? (besides necessary in some case for backroute prevention, also known to be unpopular amongst some people here; on the other hand, is it too drastic a change in "feel" if most levels have no time limits anymore?)
- adding new entrances and exits? change their positions from original version? spawning lixes facing left?
- additions, removals and position changes on existing objects/traps?
- what do we do with one-way walls?
- I'm guessing you won't get a one-to-one mapping of traps from original styles to Lix styles.  Even on a pure functional sense, a triggered trap in original style may animate in an amount of time (and thus safely passable for that amount of time) that matches none of the triggered traps in Lix style.  Presumably this is okay anyway?
- I'm assuming for repeats, we want to stay true to the original's way of doing repeats, where all terrain and objects must stay exactly the same, but "stats" like number of lixes, how many to save, time limit, and skill counts can differ?
- Limited additions of steel, which doesn't really add new terrrain, but only to prevent certain traps/objects from easily bypassable, say?

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 10:50:33 pm »

- can change number of lixes
- can change spawn interval (which I take to mean all 3 values [initial, max, min] can freely deviate from original)
- can add new traps (!)
- must stick to classic 8 skills

Not mentioned but presumably necessary to actually get fresh puzzles out of at least some of the levels

- change skill counts freely (can add and remove number of skills from original version, including changing both to and from a count of 0)
- change save percentage
- titles can change (this is too obvious to mention)
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All of the above is completely fine to change.  Really all I am trying to get at is that we try replicate the main look of the level, then create a new puzzle and find new ways of using terrain in those maps.    Your own Lix amount, skill uses, spawn intervals, hatch direction,time limits are all free to change as needed to make a new puzzle out of the original level style.
Adding in extra hatches/exits I feel is also fine if it can make a great new puzzle, then sure why not.  It's all about using the available terrain to create new fresh puzzles.

-I have been remaking some of the maps already with and without time limits.   This is ok.
 additions, removals and position changes on existing objects/traps?  Trap locations I feel can be changed.  It's still more about the actual look of the level, than the designed functionality within.
-One way walls came up, and we need to just design puzzles as if the map did not have any one-way walls.    Not much choice here.  I'm sure we can still make something fun.

Thanks, i'll add most of this up in the top post to help clear things up.

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 10:59:00 pm »
One way walls came up, and we need to just design puzzles as if the map did not have any one-way walls.

Could we not use substitutes for one-way walls as we've done in the community set, for instance Exit, stage right?

Your Fun 7 has a backroute similar to the Fun 4 one; this time just two builders.

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2012, 11:12:17 pm »
One way walls came up, and we need to just design puzzles as if the map did not have any one-way walls.

Could we not use substitutes for one-way walls as we've done in the community set, for instance Exit, stage right?

Your Fun 7 has a backroute similar to the Fun 4 one; this time just two builders.

yep, this has already been rebuilt.  The info is up top about that map already.

-as for one way walls, I haven't seen how they have been substitued, but if you know a good way to work around it, go for it! cool.

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2012, 10:26:47 pm »
I remade We All Fall Down, using Lix's winter terrain (!) instead of the underworld style. (You could call it the "hell freezes over" edition ) I chose winter because it has spikes, which underworld currently lacks, and which are essential to some of the puzzle ideas I had for this map. I've attached the map with two different puzzles of my own invention. They still need titles, but I'd suggest waiting until we have all four made and then doing one title for all of them.

I also rebuilt Tricky 3 / Taxing 29 (A ladder would be handy / How do I dig up the way), but no puzzle for it yet.

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 11:37:41 pm »
Ok, let me know which ones are totally ready with puzzles and names complete , to be included in the .zip update
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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 10:17:37 am »
Two ideas for Tricky 3 + repeat. Everyone feel free to suggest other puzzles and/or titles for maps I've posted

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 09:32:37 am »
I just downloaded and solved all the levels that are there at present (16 of them). Here are replays for Tricky 17 (100%) and Taxing 23, which I found especially fun and satisfying to solve

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Re: Reloaded
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 03:23:18 am »
Cool, nice 100% on tricky17 !  Glad you liked king of the castle reloaded version.  I was very happy with how that turned out.

Im going to download your recent maps now and play them!

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 04:02:28 am »
Just did 3 of your remakes.
Good fun, able to save the climber on the 'a ladder would be handy ' remake.

WAFD-1 - Great puzzle too.  This actually had me stumped for like 20 minutes till I realized the only way its going to work is by blocking right at the dam end of the platform hah.

WAFD-2 Working on it..  Interesting.


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3         A ladder would be handy -----------> Delaying The Inevitable
                                                                    How to get ahead?

29        How do I dig up the way ? --------------> Detonation Expedition
                                                                            Bangarang!
                                                                           Tunnel Tactics
                                                                           Softening The Blow

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We all fall down remakes

Just wondering which difficulties you are putting the first 2 of those in?  The first one is definitely not 'fun'  so tricky or taxing either would be fine.  Im still not even sure what to do on the other one, so im already thinking you could easily just have these as taxing/mayhem ones and then make fun/tricky still.

WAFD More FUN - Fall Down 
WAFD More Tricky - Down We Fall!
WAFD More Taxing - We Fall Down ?
WAFD More Mayhem - All We Fall


? Silly, but keeps the basic idea of We All Fall Down going? i dunno.


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