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#41
Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #33 -...
Last post by Crane - November 26, 2025, 08:06:30 PMQuote from: JawaJuice on November 26, 2025, 07:53:07 PMQuote from: Crane on November 26, 2025, 07:45:34 PM...Indeed it is a backroute! V3 released.
Got a solution for your R3 level, which again, is almost certainly a backroute, but again, I can't see another way to do it!
#42
Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #33 -...
Last post by JawaJuice - November 26, 2025, 07:56:30 PM@kaywhyn Got a solution for your R3 level, which I'm fairly confident is intended.
The only level in the pack that has me completely stumped at the moment is Icho's R3 level.
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You like your destructive skill extensions via builders don't you? 
The only level in the pack that has me completely stumped at the moment is Icho's R3 level.
#43
Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #33 -...
Last post by JawaJuice - November 26, 2025, 07:53:07 PMQuote from: Crane on November 26, 2025, 07:45:34 PMThe talisman solution is intended, but your previous solution was a backroute, but easily fixed by lowering the height of the terrain slightly. Obviously the regular intended solution doesn't require anywhere near as much precision, hence why the talisman is called "Now that's cheating!"
And to justify your fear, your solution to Lemming Ledger is a backroute and V2 has been released!
Yeah, thought that would be the case - the Talisman solution to Redneck Redemption 'looked right' to me, the previous one didn't. Slightly surprised Lemming Ledger is a backroute tbh, although I did think it might be due to the leftover digger. Still, I can't immediately see any other way of doing the level.
Got a solution for your R3 level, which again, is almost certainly a backroute, but again, I can't see another way to do it!
#44
Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #33 -...
Last post by Crane - November 26, 2025, 07:45:34 PMQuote from: JawaJuice on November 26, 2025, 08:01:15 AMAnd here's your talismanThe talisman solution is intended, but your previous solution was a backroute, but easily fixed by lowering the height of the terrain slightly. Obviously the regular intended solution doesn't require anywhere near as much precision, hence why the talisman is called "Now that's cheating!"A different (better!) solution.
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Tricky to pull that off, that, having to start digging at the right spot so that the blocker falls through the 1-pixel gap to the right rather than left after the digger releases him.
EDIT: Also got a solution for your R1 level. I always dread you telling me it's another backroute - I seem better at finding backroutes for your levels than intended solutions lolSpoiler
For the longest time, I was trying to mine down to the crowd with a climber/miner, but having used a builder to turn him around at the top, then bomb at the end of the miner tunnel but it was always one pixel too high - I'm sure you're aware of this! So I tried to find a different approach.
And to justify your fear, your solution to Lemming Ledger is a backroute and V2 has been released!
#45
NeoLemmix Levels / Re: [V2] Sweet 'N' Sour Lemmin...
Last post by Flopsy - November 26, 2025, 07:30:32 PMI took the time to play this pack and recorded myself doing so. Well worth coming out of NL retirement briefly to do so I should also add 
Some very good levels in this pack, I especially enjoyed solving Sour 5 and 6.
It's only one video of about an hour long, the pack was a good length I thought.
Sweet 'n' Sour Lems LP by Flopsy
Please make more levels TomatoWatcher, these levels were a very good taster of what you're really capable of!
Some very good levels in this pack, I especially enjoyed solving Sour 5 and 6.
It's only one video of about an hour long, the pack was a good length I thought.
Sweet 'n' Sour Lems LP by Flopsy
Please make more levels TomatoWatcher, these levels were a very good taster of what you're really capable of!
#46
Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #33 -...
Last post by JawaJuice - November 26, 2025, 04:21:30 PMQuote from: Armani on November 26, 2025, 03:11:48 PMYou found the intended solution! I'm glad you like the level.
A very elegantly designed puzzle with only 1 of each skill. It's probably my favourite of the pack so far
OK, I finished your R3 level as well!
That certainly took a lot of working out, but satisfying when it all clicks into place!Spoiler
The light bulb moment with this one was realizing I only needed 1 builder, not 2, to catch the floater on the far right bit of the level
#47
Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #33 -...
Last post by Armani - November 26, 2025, 03:11:48 PM@JawaJuice
You found the intended solution! I'm glad you like the level. Yeah, thinking backwards can really help sometimes.
regarding your solution to Icho's R1...
You found the intended solution! I'm glad you like the level.
Yeah, thinking backwards can really help sometimes.Spoiler
I guess you could call this a trick. Every skill behaves as it normally does but the fact that the blocker is placed right at the edge of a cliff makes the interaction interesting.
regarding your solution to Icho's R1...
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Ah yes, the infamous ultimate weapon for backrouting a level. 
It's a very powerful tool for breaking things. If I really want my level to be backroute-proof, I check whether the level can be broken if blockers are replaced with any other skill that can cancel a basher(like the walker, builder, jumper, shimmier etc...) But these days I often just live with it and move on.
It's a very powerful tool for breaking things. If I really want my level to be backroute-proof, I check whether the level can be broken if blockers are replaced with any other skill that can cancel a basher(like the walker, builder, jumper, shimmier etc...) But these days I often just live with it and move on. #48
Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #33 -...
Last post by JawaJuice - November 26, 2025, 03:10:54 PMQuote from: kaywhyn on November 26, 2025, 07:36:37 AMI do have confidence that you'll be able to get my R1 solved before that happens though!
Your confidence is well placed, it turns out
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Going back to it, I had a hunch and it worked straight away; just a process of elimination really. The lemming with the big fall has to be assigned a floater and climber, the lemmings on the far left have to be blocker and digger respectively, the other lemming has no option but to build, the final lemming has to bash through the barrier to get down in time to meet the former builder, which just leaves the miner and bomber. It occurred to me there are a few seconds before an Oh Noer explodes - long enough to mine him out and get safely to the exit. Neat trick! Haven't seen it before, but it does actually make sense and can be worked out logically.
Gonna be longer 'til my next post - all of the levels from Rule 3 are currently kicking my butt!
#49
Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #33 -...
Last post by JawaJuice - November 26, 2025, 02:21:39 PM@IchoTolot Got a solution for your R1 level.
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I suspect it may be a backroute as not many creators use the basher/blocker trick as part of an intended solution in my experience! It was also incredibly tricky to pull off.
#50
NeoLemmix Main / Re: kaywhyn's and Icho's Advic...
Last post by WillLem - November 26, 2025, 12:13:53 PMQuote from: Armani on November 25, 2025, 04:49:44 PMI want to emphasize again that this incident began with the level of one specific user.
Sure, but I'm widening the view out to all such incidents and offering a potential solution.
Quote from: Armani on November 25, 2025, 04:49:44 PMIn fact, despite having played countless levels over the years, this is the first time I've ever encountered an unsolvable one.
Agreed, it is relatively rare. I think I've only seen it once or twice in the six years I've been active. I suppose if it was a regular problem there might be more need for an in-built solution.
Quote from: Armani on November 25, 2025, 04:49:44 PMFor me the marker actually would matter. It's true that long-time forum members wouldn't doubt the solvability of my levels but new users join from time to time, and I would not want my levels to carry a label that might unintentionally suggest something is wrong with them. The word "unverified" can easily create the wrong impression, even if that's not the intention.
I see, fair enough.
Quote from: Armani on November 25, 2025, 04:49:44 PMI prefer not to release all solutions at the same time I publish my levels because I enjoy seeing how far players can get without having the answers available from the start.
Surely if we can trust users to make solvable levels, we can trust them not to look at solution replays for spoilers!
Quote from: Armani on November 25, 2025, 04:49:44 PMMy approach is very much in line with that long-standing community standard.
Just because something is "long-standing", and a "standard", doesn't mean that (a) it's the right way to do things, (b) it's the best way to do things, or (c) it shouldn't be subject to scrutiny, review, and potential updating.
In other words, "it's always been that way" shouldn't be a strong argument not to try something different.
But yeah, in this particular instance I'll concede that a built-in verification system probably is a bit drastic, and we can simply continue to advise that people ensure their levels are playable.
I'll add to that by saying we should also advise players to indicate which platform their level is intended for, particularly since SuperLemmix and NeoLemmix currently share a level file format.