Glad my pack left an impression on you!  I did what I could to try to make a smooth difficulty curve, complete with easy levels to warm you into the groove, with Cute starting around Fun/Tricky and ending at about mid-Taxing, then Curious goes into Mayhem difficulty, then Cunning starts to really up the difficulty with some unique combinations etc.  Challenge is similar to "Present" in the MegaDrive version of Lemmings in that the difficulty isn't consistent, but it tries to be a self-contained difficulty curve, starting easy and ending very difficult.  And Chaos... well, it warns you with the skull-and-crossbones icon and the warning message after you complete Challenge.  Almost every level requires some true outside-the-box thinking and clever tricks.  I like to think that Chaos 26 and Chaos 28 really inspired a few people.

I admit I do like time limits, but I try not to make them unfair, and I do try to patch backroutes that could be mistaken for the intended solution if they have very sharp timings, since I want to reduce the frustration factor where possible.

Have to say when i am played Fiat Lem! This pack is HARD. It is very hard. I am sure i cannot completed it in this year. So its sure goes next year when all is done. Avarge solution take me 45 minutes to solved and harder ones several hours.

Fiat Lem is simple because most levels use just orginal lemmings skills, but those are really vicious. When you think, okay thats done, you will see you forget somethings and have to back to fix it. You have to make many approach and failed level many times. Also have make some testing lemmings editor add skills and look everythings how actual board work. Make bunch new approachs. Save all approach and test those over again. Improve things etc.... Its perfect pack but definitely not noob friendly.

I´ll feel Step 2 Proficio same feel when i work Crane pack Chaos mode.

Unlike most Extreme pack. Fiat Lem is hard even Step 1 and Step 2 is really hard. Crane pack levels started goes really hard end of cunning mode. Challenge mode goes some really easy levels and some really hard ones. Chaos mode is insane here.

BTW
Most noob friendly pack might are Nota_Lem Pack, its contains perfect training difficults, but its goes very tricky at end, some solutions take me quite long to beat. But its not contains much sharp timing things and tricky experience. Its might one best pack if you started play custom lemmings levels to first time. I´ll really liked those levels.

Fiat Lem is just PRO lemmings players pack. I think few my own packs too, especially oh yeah more lemmings which is extremely vicious solutions and sometimes very sharp too.

Fiat Lemmings contains much levels i´ll determine difficult very hard/extreme range. Highly recommend play those levels if you like really high lemmings challenges. Heck i liked this pack, even i am sometimes feel real frustrations here.

Let continue it. I´ll have fun times.   

ohh... well guess il follow the right rules this time

Quote from: Silken Healer on October 24, 2026, 06:12:11 PMNo. "X-tralems" isn't the name of any real corporation. If your using it as a stand for "lemmkeev20's" why not just say that? Also if it is, this includes non-nominal packs, which Namida did say you can make a new thread for. It's more accurate then your previous title I guess, but why can't we just use my name "lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs"? That name is objectively the best name.

thats the joke...   making up a name for my pack with corporation, i know it isn't real but it would be funny

@Silken: I think you missed my hints so far.

So one last time:

Let it go and let the author choose the tile.

I am also not the only moderator thinking this is enough for now.

Further posts in here derailing the topic will be removed.

It's not comparing apples and oranges, this is the basically same thing. This thread is for lemmkeev20's one-off levels and nominal packs and the title says it's just an In-Development topic for the "X-tralems" pack. Obviously it's not exactly, the point of an analogy is to compare another idea to a different similar idea to better illustrate the point, if it was exactly the same it wouldn't be an analogy, but it is basically the same thing. The only difference is the topic's title is a small subset of what the topic actually is, but I don't think that breaks the over all analogy that the topic title is inaccurate so we can change it without the author necessarily wanting it to be changed.

Quote from: IchoTolot on October 24, 2026, 07:12:31 PMyou are comparing apples with pears as a saying in my region would state.

We have that expression in England too actually but it's called "comparing apples and oranges" in England.

Quote from: Silken Healer on October 24, 2026, 06:56:34 PMHim being the author of the topic gives him some authority, a lot even, but he still can't name it whatever he likes. By that logic, I make 2 bug reports in the Lix topic and swap their two names, so the topic named "Bug 1" describes bug 2 and vice versa, if I request they don't be changed and give no rhyme or reason for it would that be followed?

Not to whatever he likes, yes, but the topic's name is completely in the realm of acceptable!

The rest is up to him.

Your argument with the bug topic is on a completely different level and you are comparing apples with pears as a saying in my region would state.
Of course those names would be changed reagardless to your stated request that they match them correctly, as you are also actively deceiving there.

And now let lemmkeev20 decide about the name and let it rest!

Him being the author of the topic gives him some authority, a lot even, but he still can't name it whatever he likes. By that logic, I make 2 bug reports in the Lix topic and swap their two names, so the topic named "Bug 1" describes bug 2 and vice versa, if I request they don't be changed and give no rhyme or reason for it would that be followed?

To be honest, you are making the huge discussion here Silken.

I would highly advice to chill down a bit, take a step back and be less invested in another person's topic name.


You are missing the main point anyway:

lemmkeev20 can name this topic as he likes, regardless of the arguments you are making for a certain name or designation.

Yes, Simon may have merged without thinking too much about the name and now it may be less accurate, but now it's in the author's hand as no more rules are being violated.

I'll leave the name up to him. You have made a suggestion and it's on him to accept it or don't.

The main goal was just to avoid having a new topic for every single level released as this directly violates a rule. That has been achieved. Case closed.

Quote from: lemmkeev20 on October 24, 2026, 05:14:35 PMuhh i think i should name the pack to "X-tralems corporation levels and packs" is it any better?

No. "X-tralems" isn't the name of any real corporation. If your using it as a stand for "lemmkeev20's" why not just say that? Also if it is, this includes non-nominal packs, which Namida did say you can make a new thread for. It's more accurate then your previous title I guess, but why can't we just use my name "lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs"? That name is objectively the best name.

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Quote from: IchoTolot on October 24, 2026, 05:16:42 PMI think the level topic is perfectly fine! 

No it is not "perfectly fine." The current thread name is just an artefact of the fact that this thread was seemingly a thread for a pack named "X-tralems," and then Simon designated this to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, and he just decided to move them all into this thread instead of just creating a new thread. I 100% promise you he would have just called it that if he made a new topic. The current title is not fit for purpose.

Quote from: IchoTolot on October 24, 2026, 05:16:42 PMIt fits for single levels by lemmkeev20 and can also serve as a development topic if this turns into a finalised X-tralems pack.

No it doesn't; it seems a bit odd for single-levels by lemmkeev20 to be posted in a title which would make it seem like it's a development topic for a pack that's in-progress.

Quote from: IchoTolot on October 24, 2026, 05:16:42 PMIf the pack comes out and this topic shall serve for futher single levels it can then still be renamed if necessary,

This currently serves as a topic for single levels, not just "shall serve for [them]" in the future if the pack comes out.

Quote from: IchoTolot on October 24, 2026, 05:16:42 PMWe do not need to micro manage every single topic so the name fits 100% to the exact detail.

This is not micromanging; this is a significant difference, not just "micromanagement." Simon designated this thread to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, and it still has the old name from when it was just seemingly for a pack named "X-tralems."

Quote from: IchoTolot on October 24, 2026, 05:16:42 PMand the title of this topic also fits the current theme well enough.

No it doesn't "fit the current theme well enough." The title of this topic would suggest that this is a development pack named "X-tralems," not what it actually is, which is a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread.

Quote from: IchoTolot on October 24, 2026, 05:16:42 PMSo, let's not take this topic off topic

I am not taking this topic off-topic. I think posting meta information about a thread in a thread such as the inaccurate title as an aterfact of the fact Simon designated this to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, and he just decided to move them all into this thread, instead of just creating a new thread and not going to the Site Discussion board for just a "you forgot to rename the thread when you changed what the thread was" is completely reasonable and on-topic. If you think it's necessary move all of these posts to "Site Discussion" in a new thread, then you are free to do so, but I don't think that's necessary.

Quote from: IchoTolot on October 24, 2026, 05:16:42 PMand leave room for the actual levels from lemmkeev20

As I said previously, I am not "using up any room" for lemmkeev20's levels. Threads don't have a post limit, and when the server's storage runs out Namida will upgrade it, so I'm not "using up any room." We have unlimited room.

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Honestly I don't get why such a big discussion has spawned out of this. I thought this was just going to be a menial objectively good one-post house keeping duty, this thread was seemingly a thread for a pack named "X-tralems," and then Simon designated this to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, and he just decided to move them all into this thread instead of just creating a new thread, and it still kept the old, no-longer accurate name. So now the thread had changed has it still kept the old name of the original thread all the posts were moved too so now just update it to what the thread now actually is. Simple. Done in 5 minutes. I don't get why this has spawned such a big discussion. I thought this would be an obviously objectively correct menial housekeeping change.