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[NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« on: December 02, 2018, 05:33:38 pm »
Insane Steve's World

Insane Steve's World is a level pack of 150 levels for up to date NeoLemmix. These levels are all created by InsaneSteve and compiled from old Lemmix, Cheapo and Lix, some dating back 10+ years. These levels were compiled by mobius and wafflem.
See us for questions about this pack.

I want to thank wafflem for working with me on this pack and doing a lot to make it possible. Also big thanks to all the testers.

wafflem; level updates/fixes, graphics, menu and title creation, backroute testing, music selection and level order.
Nessy, IchoTolot & joshescue: backroute testing, fixes and suggestions

Current version number is: 2 Jan 1, 2019

DOWNLOAD: see attachment:

MUSIC PACK: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mlygubngtfpi5vq/AABzGucJogEZvDCwHSawrzv7a?dl=1


INSTRUCTIONS
-extract "InsaneSteve'sWorld" into a folder called "Insane_Steve's_World" in your levels folder. *I zipped the individual files instead of the whole folder*
-Dump the music files into your music folder.


everything else should be included with NeoLemmix by default. If there are any problems please report them here.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2019, 11:16:23 pm by mobius »
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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 11:10:41 pm »
Ohhoh. Time to get hyped yet again. You people did so good job with Clammings so I expect A LOT. It's lovely to see the legendary content of these old level makers for the modern engines these days! I'm very much fearing how much time playing this would consume from my schoolwork...

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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 01:04:22 am »
Comments and a few replays for the Peaceful rank:

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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 02:39:08 am »
Comments and more replays for Difficult:

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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 09:11:05 pm »
A couple of minor points:

D19 The Nifty Fifty has the author set to "InsaneSteve" with no space.
M4 Level F. Random Terrain Pieces, now that NL allows titles up to 40 characters, "Featuring" could be written in full.
C8 Obevat Yriy should presumably be Obevat Yriry to match the writing on the level.
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C20 Phone Call from Outer Spac, is the missing "e" deliberate or a typo?
H15 Crown Jewel Heist is credited to "I.S. / geoo", H20 Empty space is hardly a waste to "ISteve and geoo". geoo is okay with including these levels (I asked in chat), but the credits should be written the same way (probably the first way, for consistency with Lix).

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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2018, 02:45:04 am »
As I'm not happy with my solution to Twin Paradox (part 1), I had another look to see if there was a "cleaner" solution. I haven't found one yet, but I found an alternative solution that works and is even more fiddly -- instead of stretching bridges to the max, you now have to stretch them exactly the right amount but not too much (or you won't get high enough).

If there is an intended solution that's less fiddly, these solutions should be eliminated -- though hopefully without making them fail by only one pixel, which is, if anything, even worse.

EDIT: Found clean solutions to both parts. :thumbsup: These solutions still work if the exit platform is moved further away from the vertical wall, which would prevent my fiddly solutions.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2018, 03:04:39 am by Proxima »

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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2018, 08:52:04 pm »
Insane Steve's levels were some of the first ones I ever played from Lemmings Level Database in summer 2012, so early that I didn't even realize to save replays for them at first. In addition to Lemmix levels, I had played the notebook sets from Cheapo, and Lix Community Level Set, so most of the levels I remembered well. My replays for all the 150 levels are attached.

Here's Insane Steve's packs from Lemmings level database. Levels from ISteve01-10 Lemmix packs that are not on the NeoLemmix pack:

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Lix Community Level Pack levels that are not on the NeoLemmix pack:

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Somehow level previews didn't work when I ran my Cheapo, and it takes loads of times to load a level there, so I didn't look at all 90 or so
Steve's notebook levels there which were included in NeoLemmix pack and which were not.

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Comments:

Peaceful 1: Any Way You Want It - Basher solution doesn't work (they fall to death unlike in Lix version), see also repeat level (Just Stop the Bleeding).
Peaceful 2: Jus' A Warm Up - I was missing the good cheapo track here, no idea still what's that awesome tune, I even remember asking it from Steve himself and he didn't remember it either if I recall correctly.
Peaceful 4: The Binary Level - Same as Proxima, I haven't seen this level before, where does it and its repeat come from? Actually, where do the levels come if they aren't from ISteve01-10, Lix, Cheapo notebook sets, or forum contests?
Peaceful 10: Snow Really - Just realized, why wasn't the original Snow tileset used in Snow levels in this pack?
Peaceful 23: The Obstacle - This apparently replaces ISteve02-7: "Rip your hair out Mr. Lemming"
Difficult 8: Preventative Maintenance - Like Proxima mentioned already, the trigger area of the fire trap in the right edge of the starting area is so high that lemmings won't die there, I'd think this is not intended?
Difficult 26: Need a Boost? - Yeah this was pretty hard!
Difficult 29: Time is of the Essance - The title should be EssEnce, not EssAnce.
Menacing 1: They just won't climb that wall. - The Lemmix title is "They Just Won't Climb the Wall", is this a cheapo title?
Menacing 14: Fire Exit - This was also hard!
Menacing 25: The Runaround - Hahaha this must be the smallest level I've ever seen. :D Also, a backroute?
Chaotic 18: I Challenge You to a Dual! - Originally meant to be a glitch level, it seems it's possible in an honest manner. :P
Chaotic 25: Just Stop the Bleeding - The only level in this pack I skipped, played the rest through, and came back to solve it as the last level, see the comment in Any Way You Want It.
Hopeless 15: Crown Jewel Heist - This I remember not beating in Lix Community Set, it's quite ferocious!

Spoilery comments:

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« Last Edit: December 09, 2018, 09:11:48 pm by Akseli »

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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2018, 01:12:48 am »
I started playing this pack to bring back some nostalgia...
Insane Steve's Cheapo levels were the first big pack I was playing, and I remember it taking me months to complete most of it, with individual levels haunting me for even longer. I still remember my fascination with the Mon0lith, and I'm happy to see it as the final level of the pack.
Thanks a lot for compiling this!

I went through Difficult and Chaotic so far. I forgot a decent amount of solutions, yet at the same time it's surprising that for some levels that I played over 10 years ago I still have a faint memory of some main tricks. Though I think the main reason for being much fast than ~12 years ago is that I also got a lot better since then.

A few comments on individual levels so far:

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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2018, 01:40:24 am »
thanks everyone for all the replays. :thumbsup:

I'll look at them eventually, but it may be a little while as I needed a break from working on this pack and I've been busy with other things like upgrading my PC.
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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2019, 07:57:19 pm »
UPDATE on 12/30/2018

See original post for download links. Music pack has also changed.

all changes are listed in the changelog (included in the main folder for download)
Also includes updates to styles needed.
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Re: [NFNL] Insane Steve's World
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 09:51:54 pm »
I just uploaded again to fix two minor issues; the outtakes rank should not have existed (it was only the levels that had gotten replaced) and Nin10do'Addict's style was missing from the folder.
"Not knowing how near the truth is, we seek it far away."
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"Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man"
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