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Offline Flopsy

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Flopsy's Lix Multiplayer Levels
« on: November 15, 2017, 11:11:14 pm »
I have finally made my first Multiplayer Lix level and it's nothing special, I'm not sure if any level like this has been made like this before.


8 player version


6 player version


4 player version

The exit for each player is up and left from the entrance so all players will have to go down to reach their exits.
Do you think the skillset is appropriate for this kind of level.

What do you lot think? I'm hoping we can play this in the multiplayer session this weekend :)

I could realistically make a 3, 5 and 7 player version also.
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Re: Flopsy's Lix Multiplayer Levels
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2017, 10:49:20 am »
Just a few comments from eyeing it, and some general remarks. Of course, can't tell for sure how it plays until you've played it:

  • way more builders and platformers: with 50 lix at SI 32, this map isn't that short, so with all the terrain removers you will pretty soon run out of construction skills as other players will meddle with your route. Terrain removal is generally much stronger and faster that terrain creation
  • cut the blockers so it doesn't become a grindfest. I kinda expect you to ignore my advice, but there are more interesting things (e.g. strategy) than repeatedly placing and batting blockers. And yes, even "only" 5 blockers will mean some will appear in front of your exit when you're trying to steal someone else's lixes. If you cut blockers, then you can also cut the batters. Otherwise, consider giving more batters as it's not a 1v1 map and multiple people can block one player. Blockers are not so bad in maps with very little interaction, but this one seems like it'll see a lot of interaction.
  • walkers and jumpers tend to run out fast, so unless you want to make it hard to meddle with other players, I'd increase their amount
  • Diggers are quite powerful as digger holes trap lixes very easily (takes much less effort than with miners). For that reason, I often give less diggers than miners/bashers, or sometimes cut them entirely.
  • In general, you can cut specific skills if you want the gameplay to be different from other lots-of-everything maps. E.g. you can cut miners and diggers if you want going down to be more of a challenge, or encourage going up. Similarly, you can cut builders for the opposite effect, or bashers. You can cut jumpers if you want attacking to be harder. You can cut walkers if you want to annoy everyone. :P You can set the amount of climbers equal to the amount of lix (for levels with not so many lix) if you want to allow climbing everyone home. These kind of changes can make a level more interesting, but they can also make a level suck. So think if the gameplay you desire to achieve with the cuts goes well with the level layout, though it's not always possible to predict that without playing the level.

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Re: Flopsy's Lix Multiplayer Levels
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2017, 12:42:52 pm »
I'd increase builders, too, to 30 or even 50.

Digging under hatches looks like a strong attack here. You can mitigate that by lowering hatches, putting steel under the hatches, or giving many more builders. Alternatively, you can declare hatch digging a feature of the map.

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I'm hoping we can play this in the multiplayer session this weekend :)

Definitely -- I've always given priority to new maps in multiplayer sessions. Playtesting and good feedback are super important.

Next multiplayer session is Sat Nov 18 at 18:00 UTC.

You needn't send the map to everybody in advance. The game server relays the map to everybody. Post the maps once you'd like them included in the standard Lix download.

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Re: Flopsy's Lix Multiplayer Levels
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2017, 03:53:25 pm »
Ok I've taken suggestions on board and I'd already added steel under the exits before you suggested it Simon :)



I'll keep the levels back for now and then get feedback on them this session on Saturday before submitting them to be included in the game :)

I feel the bashers and miners need more now because they are going to be spammed now, it may even be too little for the 5 or 7 player version.

There is a version each for 3-8 players now. The odd numbered ones take the same layout as the 4P map in my first post so realistically speaking it means the 7 player level is the hardest version because you'll be passing 6 other exits and it could be easier to go up perhaps.

Diggers do oversimplify this level so I've completely removed them, the miners will encourage more conflict between players.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 03:59:51 pm by Flopsy »
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Re: Flopsy's Lix Multiplayer Levels
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2017, 06:15:47 pm »
Updated versions of Along the Fabrics of your Clothing

Posted to the forums since I cannot select levels in the multiplayer
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Re: Flopsy's Lix Multiplayer Levels
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2018, 10:29:36 pm »

Block Chaos

This level was played a few times in the Lix session just gone and I hope everyone enjoyed it.

The skillset is displayed and I'm interested in everyone's thoughts on this level while it is fresh in your mind :)

For those who haven't played the map, blocks of similar colours are the locations of the entrances and exits for one player.

This level is available in 4-8 player versions.
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Re: Flopsy's Lix Multiplayer Levels
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2018, 10:38:42 pm »
Block Chaos: I'd appreciate more walkers. I habitually cancel miners with walkers. I could try to cancel with platformers.

Builder count is good; if you gave to many, the bottom hatch could force itself upwards. The point of the map is to free the bottom hatch.

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Re: Flopsy's Lix Multiplayer Levels
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2018, 11:44:51 pm »
That was a really good level. My only minor complaint was the second time we played it IchoTolot was easily able to kill large amounts of my lix with only 1 of his lix. I'm not sure what one could do to prevent this however.
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