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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2017, 05:33:27 am »
Since I don't know when I get around doing further levels of the harder ranks and I've gathered some level solutions I've attached some replays (should work with 0.9.4).

4 Daunting levels:

1 - Rhapsody--
4 - Over My Head
12 - Alternative Route Required
21 - Slipping Again

1 Vicious level:

14 - Five for Fighting

1 Hopeless level:

14 - Parking Garage

Remarks on the Daunting levels (click to show/hide)

Remarks on Five for Fighting (click to show/hide)

Remarks on Parking Garage (click to show/hide)
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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2017, 11:43:31 pm »
Your solutions to mine were intended. Extra skills there are a red herring.

Five for Fighting is not actually the same as "Whispering Wind". The terrain is similar but the solutions are supposed to be different. Five for Fighting is supposed to have a time limit which removes a bunch of solutions, but maybe that's no longer necessary.

Over my Head has a few similar solutions.

Interesting that still people are finding "Rhapsody" more difficult than it's position. This has come up a lot it seems, while I've always found this level pretty easy (but still a great one)
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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2017, 02:26:06 am »
Thanks for the feedback.

Interesting that still people are finding "Rhapsody" more difficult than it's position. This has come up a lot it seems, while I've always found this level pretty easy (but still a great one)

I'm not sure if I think Rhapsody is too tough since Daunting levels are supposed to be already tough I think. The level just hit my weakness of having to think in advance and deal with many possible combinations. I probably think more in a bruteforce (and problem by problem) manner, so that many possible combinations are generally harder for me.
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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2018, 04:44:42 am »
I've solved 10 further Daunting levels and attached replays.

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2018, 05:25:00 am »
Excellent replays -- those are all intended or at least acceptable. "A Towering Proposition" is slightly overcomplicated; the intended solution is very similar but you don't actually need that tricky step of timing the first two miners.

The intended solution to "I'm Gonna Make You Mine" is indeed to make a bridge wall with right-to-left builders, but I had a very different way of achieving this, using the platformers. Any solution that works is fine on this one.

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2018, 03:09:50 am »
Thanks for the feedback.

I've solved 8 further Lemforum levels and mainly post to ask if my solution to "Jack in the Box" is intended. This one looks quite peculiar.

Remarks to the 2 Vicious levels (click to show/hide)
Remarks to "The Mon0lith" (click to show/hide)

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2018, 03:45:02 am »
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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2018, 03:56:52 am »
Thanks, Simon, for your answer.

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2018, 10:31:25 pm »
Attached another bunch of Daunting solutions.

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2018, 09:38:30 pm »
I've solved 11 further Vicious levels and attached replays.

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2018, 10:19:19 pm »
Great work as usual! :lix-grin:

"Derailed Level" is indeed intended. "This Lix Is Your Lix" is not, I'll need to fix that.

"100% Built" is not quite intended (it's based on a challenge for "Tribute to M.C. Escher" and you took advantage of the terrain step that isn't there in the original) but I'll allow it.

"Betcha can't save" is not the original intended solution -- according to Insane Steve's notes on the LemEdit original, you were meant to use three lemmings, sacrificing two to allow the third to exit. But we've known for a long time that this wasn't enforced on the original, there are solutions using only two lemmings, and it is indeed possible to save more than one :)

That's the intended right-side solution to "Buridan's Lix", but you haven't really finished the level until you've found both :lix-cool:

"Halfway Down" is a level where anything that works is acceptable. The originally intended solution doesn't work in D Lix anyway. None of the solutions I've seen before use that cuber trick, that's a neat one.

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2018, 10:46:43 pm »
Thanks for the feedback.

That's the intended right-side solution to "Buridan's Lix", but you haven't really finished the level until you've found both :lix-cool:

I have now found a solution for the left exit. This one seemed more complicated and timing intensive.

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2018, 12:26:48 am »
:lix-grin: Very impressive, I thought there was only one way to do that but you found a different solution!

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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2018, 03:22:23 pm »
I've solved 9 further Daunting levels.
Furthermore I have a different left-exit solution for "Buridan's Lix" and a slightly different solution for "100% built by Lixes".


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Re: Some impressions/replays concerning the lemforum levels
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2018, 02:37:44 am »
"Gomen ne sunao ja nakute" is a backroute; I'll need to fix that.

Segmentation Fault: original level is 62/82. The possibility to ignore one hatch is an accident from reducing lix to 20/40 after VSI was removed. My best solution (attached) loses 18, with 10 in hatch after the route is complete. Obviously reducing numbers still further is not an option, so perhaps require 21 or 22/40? If others feel that requiring lose-18 is unnecessarily fiddly, could just go up to 30/50 or whatever.