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General Discussion / Re: Logic Puzzles

« on: June 18, 2022, 07:49:15 PM »

I've been getting into Nikoli-style logic puzzles recently, solving a few when I have the time, but I also went ahead and created some of my own puzzles. They're nothing too fancy, but I'm pretty happy with them for a first attempt. They use a ruleset which combines Simple Loops with Nonograms. I dub it, the Nonoloop.

Rules

- Draw a single non-intersecting loop through the centers of all cells. The loop may only move horizontally or vertically and may only make 90-degree turns.
- Clues outside the grid represent the lengths of the blocks of consecutive turns that the loop makes in the corresponding row or column, in order.

E.g. "2" means the loop turns in two consecutive cells in that column, while "1 1" means the loop turns in one cell and then another non-consecutively.

Example (click to show/hide)

Puzzles

Nonoloop 1 (click to show/hide)

Nonoloop 2 (click to show/hide)

Nonoloop 3 (click to show/hide)

Nonoloop 4 (click to show/hide)

And attached is a single pdf with the rules and all puzzles, if that's preferred

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

« on: May 30, 2022, 03:22:15 AM »

Regarding kaywhyn's solutions to my levels...

R1 and R2 are acceptable alternatives that have been seen before and are close to the originally intended solution. R3 is the intended solution.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

« on: May 14, 2022, 09:56:17 AM »

Icho's solutions to my R1 and R2 are acceptable alternatives. R3 is essentially the intended solution.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

« on: May 02, 2022, 07:07:57 PM »

@Tomato

Yet another new solution for my R1. So far, everyone who has solved it (including me) has used a different solution. They're all acceptable to me because it checks the boxes I wanted to see, yours included. Nice job.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

« on: April 09, 2022, 07:46:20 PM »

Apjjm's solution to my R1 was entirely acceptable.

The solution to my R2 is very different to Armani and I's... but it does still use every skill, so I'll tentatively keep it as an alternate solution. I'm satisfied with my R1 and R2 being relatively open-ended.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25 - Playing Phase (Update Topic)

« on: April 07, 2022, 07:30:16 PM »

Updating DireKrow's R3 Level, "Ancient Lemmarine", from V1 to V2. Changes:
- Widened some gaps in the terrain to prevent a backroute discovered by Armani.
- Removed 2 superfluous climbers from the skillset.
- Minor scenery adjustments.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

« on: April 07, 2022, 07:45:53 AM »

Your first replay of my R3 level was exactly the intended solution. The second replay is a backroute. Will fix that tomorrow.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

« on: April 05, 2022, 08:26:28 AM »

I talked about it on the discord, but I'll put here too for the record. Armani's solution to my R2 level is acceptable. It saves a skill, but honestly... I'm weighing up the idea of making Armani's solution the canonical one and officially removing that saved skill from the level.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

« on: April 04, 2022, 07:41:21 PM »

Quote from: Armani on April 04, 2022, 04:32:09 PM

played through all rule1 levels.
They all probably are not quite intended other than Icho's level which is I'm pretty sure open-ended.

For my level... it's much closer to the intended solution than you think! You solved all of the 'problems' you were intended to solve, and used most of the skills in the places you were intended to use them... you just did it in a way that takes a lot longer and was slightly more complicated, but saves a skill as a result.

I think I'm okay with leaving this as an alternate solution. I'd rather err on the side of keeping it a little more open-ended, to make it more accessible to people. Plus it provides a way to solve it without having to multitask, which I think people will appreciate.

If I really wanted to block this solution, then adding a 2:30 timer is something I could do. It would fit the level too, since some base infiltration have to be done under time pressure, after all

But I don't feel the need to do that yet. Another option I'll consider is to make beating it in <2:30 into a talisman.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25

« on: February 28, 2022, 09:29:44 PM »

For Rule 2, you can have 10 terrain AND 10 objects. 20 'things' in a level total. Any entrances and exits DO count as objects.

Loap / DireKrow L3D/LP3D Playthrough Unresolved Bugs

« on: February 15, 2022, 08:09:23 AM »

- ~~The OWW in Redirect Loop can't be bashed from the expected direction, instead acting like steel. This renders the level unsolvable by its intended solution.~~

- ~~The 2nd spring in Steps to Success causes the lemmings to splat against the cross-beam in the middle of the level. This renders the level unsolvable.~~

- ~~Changes to the trampoline physics render Breaking the Routine unsolvable. See discord message here for details. Tl;dr Lemmings bounce slightly too high.~~

- ~~The 3rd bomber in Entanglement is pixel-perfect in Loap, where as there's slightly more of a window in L3D, due to physics differences.~~

- ~~In L3D you can place blockers directly in front of the exit. In Loap, they exit the level if you try this.~~

- Several levels have cameras that are stuck in ceilings at the start of the level. Most common on indoor levels like Alilemms and Infinite Lemming Drive, but it can also be seen in That's Right for instance. The camera is also practically unusable in Catacombs.

- On rare occasions, attempting to assign a skill to a lemming will instead assign it to one behind the camera or way off in a different part of the level. It's unclear what causes it (possibly rewinds? Might be a coincidence). When this happens, strange behavior can be observed from the indicator in the bottom left that says what skills the lemming you're hovering over has (such as saying WALKER despite the mouse not being on any lemmings), which suggests that the bug exists in detecting what lemming the mouse is pointing at, rather than the skill assignment itself.

- Loading a replay on the preview screen with L causes the camera to rotate when you start playing the level, as if L was held down, until L is pressed again.

- ~~Rope slides look visually bugged down their length, but otherwise function correctly.~~

- The pharaoh lemming heads are visible on the flame traps in Firewall, where as they're invisible in L3D.

- Missing sound effect: In L3D, when you reach the save requirement in a level during gameplay, it plays FANFARE from the sound rips. The rip is noticeably faster and high pitched than it is in-game, so I suspect it's played back at half speed.

- ~~Extraneous sound effect: frame stepping forward should be silent instead of playing a sound.~~

- Not a bug, but playtesting indicates that making it so you can't assign blockers/turners inside of splitter blocks (as in L3D) is probably a good idea, as the currently behavior lets you trivialize certain levels like Spaghetti Junction and 3D A Lemming Odyssey

- Also not a bug, but many in-game cosmetic animations seem to play too fast, such as the wall monitors in Lemlab themed levels and the mud. L3D on DOSBox already seems to play these too fast so it can be misleading, but I'm pretty sure they're meant to be slower.

- Unlike L3D, the engine doesn't seem to tint top and bottom faces, which gives some levels confusing visuals, where walls, deflectors and platforms blend into each other. Firewall is an example. See discord messages starting here for details.

Engine Bugs / Suggestions / Re: [BUG][PLAYER] Uncommanded clicking

« on: February 13, 2022, 11:08:35 PM »

I think it might be a good idea to have an option to disable playback of replays entirely unless explicitly loaded. I wouldn't use it myself, but we've just had someone ask for it and it's something I can see other people wanting.

Contests / Re: Level Design Contest #25

« on: February 09, 2022, 05:24:41 AM »

Levels submitted. Good luck to the competitors. Looking forward to playing what other people come up with.

Lemmings Main / [POLL] One brave lemming goes ahead, preparing the path for the crowd...

« on: February 02, 2022, 09:54:51 PM »

...what do you call them?

NeoLemmix Levels / Re: [NeoLemmix] NeoLemmix Introduction Pack [Difficulty: Beginner]

« on: February 02, 2022, 03:54:54 AM »

Advanced Rank complete and replays attached. Some of these were pretty tricky, even with the hints.

These ones:

9 Stack and Step
10 Jump the Sausage
13 Caught and Released
20 A Different Kind of Space
27 Victory Lap

...each took me at least half an hour. Not necessarily a bad thing, though it does make the beginner tag feel slightly misleading, hah.

Some specific comments:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I found the tooltip in 9 slightly cryptic. It took me a while to figure out the first trick, as we briefly discussed in the discord. But after that, it still took a while after that because there is multiple promising 'tricks' in the bottom left and I ended up picking all of the wrong ones first. You can have a walker step up onto the stacker mid-build in the bottom left, then turn them into a shimmier to have them shimmy up toward the top by themselves for example, which I thought was the intended path for a while. My fault.

For 10, the hard part was the bottom right. I spent a significant amount of time (~30 min) trying different combinations of stackers/builders/platformers, but the closest I got was one pixel short. You can see where I got here: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/249720184116477956/938209876763607090/SPOILER_unknown.png Eventually I gave up and asked for help and was given the solution to it, so... technically I never actually successfully solved this by myself.

For 13, I think the puzzle is really good but also really tough due to how much is going on at once. The whole block of 8 through 13 is, imo, harder than 14 through 16, so I think those two groups of levels should be swapped around. One thing that really caught me off guard is that in the bottom right, the timing works out perfectly (at least in my solution) if the first lemming that arrives becomes the stoner, then the second lemming becomes the builder worker. My first instinct was actually the opposite... I used a slider to make the first lemming that arrived the builder worker, then the second became the stoner... but if you do this thinking it'll buy the worker my time, it actually ends up not working out. A little bizarre, but hey.

For 20 and 27 I have no complaints, they're just tricky, but in a satisfying way. I know 20 in particular has been a real pain in the butt with regards to backroutes, so hopefully this solution is the actual one at last, because it's really cool!

For 20 the main thing which took me a long time to realize was how to get the crowd up to the exit despite not having any construction skills at that point. The fact you had to let the crowd past then trap them on top of the ramp using the blocker was the ingenious trick I was missing but did eventually realize. Very clever. For 27, the hard part was figuring out a way to release the crowd after fully preparing the path ahead. I eventually realized I could do it by assigning the lower miner ahead of time and then releasing the crowd later using a climber-bomber.

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