Thank you very much for solving this issue, I'll wait till the next update.

Quote from: rosborne on December 27, 2025, 01:56:21 PM- there isn't a default one included in the 2.4 release download. Should there be?

It is created by default, and it's the only player that stays -with all the progress kept- after closing and opening RetroLemmini.

Maybe all these issues happen because of the Java version? This is what I am using:

openjdk 11.0.29 2025-10-21
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 11.0.29+6-post-Debian-1deb11u1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0.29+6-post-Debian-1deb11u1, mixed mode, sharing)

Hello!

Sorry to bother you during Christmas, but I've found some bugs in RetroLemmini.

First, every time I start the program, it only shows the default player, even though the players I create are already in the players directory. The problem is solved by creating a player with the same name that already exists in that directory... but when I restart the program, it disappears again.

Second, I've discovered that in Lemmings Plus I, there are several levels where the house the Lemmings are supposed to come out of isn't shown. This doesn't happen in SuperLemmini Too. Specifically, this happens in all the levels of "No Salvation," as well as in "Overheat" (Wimpy 26) (screenshots attached) and Medi 28 ("Way Up High")

I used the Lemmings Plus level version posted here:

https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5620.msg92258#msg92258

It may happen with other levels, but I haven't advance much far nor test thoroughly every level I have in my collection.

Thanks in advance!

There once was a miner so bright,
Who worked in the day and the night.
With a pick and a roar,
It dug up the floor,
Creating a marvelous sight!

Limericks inspired by Lemmings universe 


In a land where the lemmings parade,
With a march that can't be dismayed,
They dive off a cliff,
For a moment of myth,
A wild leap, in their fate they have played!

I have only played to exhaustion the first 9 games of the series, and I rank them as follows:

1st - Lemmings 2
2nd - Oh No! More Lemmings!
3rd - Holiday Lemmings 94
4th - Holiday Lemmings 93
5th - Covox + Prima Publishing + Other unique levels
6th - Lemmings
7th - Xmas Lemmings 92
8th - Xmas Lemmings 91

Can't say anything about the rest, because I barely played them, and I only have interest on Revolution and 3D.

Here are the Sega Master System 10 unique levels, with its also unique Sega style, ready for playing on SuperLemminiToo. Their scenary reminds me of a abandoned kitchen and/or bathroom.

While the author is unknown, the levels were corrected and adapted from Lemmini to SuperLemminiToo by kaywhyn. Thank you for your efforts, kaywhyn! 

Quote from: kaywhyn on October 01, 2024, 01:42:09 PMHi @Ron_Stard,

I finally got everything sorted out, and I got to say it was a lot of work but finally got it done Here's the SMS zip with the corrected levels attached. I've also attached the special_sega styles along with a few of the pieces I used to edit some of the levels.

As you correctly suspected, the exits for the Sega levels were all a pixel too high. I have corrected that by lowering the exits 1 pixel so that the Lemmings exit properly.

That wasn't the only issue. Another is the dripping waterdrop faucet trap is missing. I'm guessing the person who compiled the Sega levels for Lemmini wasn't able to obtain or find the graphic for it. So, I've added the trap in to all the Sega levels. There's one per level except for both Sega 5's which doesn't have the trap at all. For reference, on Sega One it's at the bottom to the left of the entrance. For Sega Two and Sega Three, the trap is on the far right of the level. Finally, on Sega Four the trap is on the far left of the level.

In addition, some parts of the levels looked a bit different from the originals, and so I went through the pain of trying to remember how to add pieces to the very early NL editor and then tried to match the level appearances. For example, after putting in the waterdrop faucet trap, there were some gray lines between the black spaces. To get rid of the gray lines, I used the really small black line pieces to line them up with the gray lines and then made it an eraser piece. It needs to be an eraser, because if not then there's a very faint dark blue against the black background.

As another example, on Sega Two, to the right and up from the exit the pipes are all connected. However, for the Lemmini version of the level there is a gap, and so I added the corresponding pipe piece to the editor and closed off the gap. Similarly, on Sega Three in the original the pipe on the far right of the level is short, but for some reason the pipe is longer on the Lemmini version. So, just added the long pipe piece and made it an eraser to get rid of it. Then I added the correct small pipe piece and added the waterdrop faucet trap over it, which of course is set to "no overwrite."

Once I made the edits, I of course went over them in SuperLemmini to make sure all the traps and exits worked properly, and they did. So, they should all work fine now on SuperLemminiToo

As for the extraction, you just need to drop them in the root.lzp zip file in the data folder of SuperLemminiToo. I've put the extras folder inside the levels folder, and similarly I've already put the special_sega style folder inside the "styles" folder in the zip attached below.

I checked the other levels besides the 5 special levels of the Genesis/Megadrive port and they all work fine, so fortunately they didn't need to be edited. I was able to complete those levels without issues So, everything is confirmed to be working 

Quote from: Ron_Stard on September 30, 2024, 01:24:06 PMAnd by the way, I also think the Mega Drive/Genesis levels should be included on SuperLemminiToo. If I recall correctly, they are attached somewhere in this forum, probably in the SuperLemmini post - I also have attached here those levels, I'm not sure if they would work on SuperLemminiToo because I have not tested them. Sorry 

Yup, you're correct about the Genesis/Megadrive levels in the SuperLemmini topic:

https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=1793.msg44598#msg44598

It's the second-to-last link at the bottom of Tsyu's post. To that end, I've pasted the download link for the Genesis/Megadrive to your post in this topic

That's why I removed the 5 special levels from the zip, because those can be included if one downloads the Genesis/Megadrive levels from Tsyu's post or from your OP in this topic Also, I edited the levelpack.ini by removing any mention of the special Genesis/Megadrive levels.

Thank you for the hard work!
Just let me edit the levelpak file to remove the levels that are not from SMS, because by default, all those levels are already on SuperLemminiToo. Are you OK with this, before I create a new post for your edition and credit you? 

@kaywhyn :

Regarding SMS Lemmings and their unique levels (and other unique levels, some of them already included by default on SuperLemminiToo), here they are, ready for Lemmini (but not for SuperLemminiToo. Again, I don't remember where or when I downloaded it, nor who is the author. If anyone knows about it, let me know for crediting him/her when I create a proper post.

And by the way, I also think the Mega Drive/Genesis levels should be included on SuperLemminiToo. If I recall correctly, they are attached somewhere in this forum, probably in the SuperLemmini post - I also have attached here those levels, I'm not sure if they would work on SuperLemminiToo because I have not tested them. Sorry 

Quote from: kaywhyn on September 29, 2024, 10:11:22 PMHi @Ron_Stard,

Was just thinking about you yesterday, as I was going through the playlists on my Youtube channel and found my solutions to your Ron_Stard Rodents packs for both NL and SuperLemmini Nice to hear from you again after so long.

I checked the levels in SuperLemmini/SuperLemminiToo and the Lemmings do exit, but the exits in all the levels are all a pixel too high, meaning you need to build right where the exit is so that the Lemmings will exit. However, this will render some of the levels impossible with the given skillset since you don't always have spare builders to do so. So, the answer is to simply lower the exits by at least a pixel.

Also, Lemmini checks for triggers differently than on SuperLemmini. On Lemmini, the trigger is at the Lemming's belly, while on SuperLemmini it checks at the foot, the latter of which is what the official games do. That explains why for the former it's much harder to avoid traps by building over them but also why it's impossible to take the route through the needle traps on Taxing 4 of L1 on Lemmini, for example. At the same time, that's also why there's a lot of leniency and leeway when Lemmings exit on Lemmini. So, even though Lemmini levels should work on SuperLemmini without needing to edit the levels themselves, this doesn't automatically mean that packs originally made for Lemmini should all work on SuperLemmini without issues. There can be problems with trap triggers so that they work on Lemmini but not SuperLemmini, and similarly for exits. I definitely know this from experience with some packs I've converted to SuperLemmini. It's annoying to have to go through each level to make sure they all work as intended, but it's a good practice to follow to ensure the levels aren't impossible.

edit: Attached the zip with the levels corrected so that the Lemmings now exit properly! Here, I lowered all exits by a pixel, (with the exceptions of Classic 5 and 10, where I lowered them by 3 pixels in order to allow plenty of leg room so that you don't need extreme precision to build over the exits) saved the levels, and played through all of them to make sure they exit properly, which they do All levels are confirmed possible, as I have a working replay for all of them. I may attach replays at a later time. I also have the levels unedited for Lemmini, and they should all work without issues since the Lemmings 2 Classic Tribe Remake was originally made for Lemmini and not SuperLemmini, especially as I played and completed all the levels from a while back even though I didn't save any replays.

@Ron_Stard

Feel free to replace the zip in the OP with this one! I'll also be more than happy to do the same with correcting the SMS levels for SuperLemmini too!  

Thank you for playing and recording my levels back in the day! I hope you had a good time! I am working from some time ago on 10 new levels, maybe it's time to finish them.

Thank you for correcting the Lemmings 2 levels! I don't remember where or when I found them, but as I said before, I think they should be included by default on SuperLemminiToo. I will update the attachment on the main post with your version in a few minutes 

Quote from: kaywhyn on September 30, 2024, 11:19:40 AM@Ron_Stard

Video solutions to the pack have been up for a while. Not sure why I didn't link to my playlist before

Anyway, here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJvLG3YZmOcY6veFNq1YOPLU Enjoy!  

Thanks for playing! Some of the solutions are not what I had in mind when I designed the levels, but they are very creative! 

I am working from some time ago on another 10 levels, again, each one with a different style. Maybe it's time to finish them and release them 

Here are the SuperLemminiToo version of the Lemmings 2 - Classic Tribe levels. Thanks to PacGuy765 for creating them for Lemmini, and to kaywhyn to correct them for SuperLemminiToo!

Old post, the link is corrected. Thank you, kaywhyn!

I have had these files from some time ago. They work when included within root.lzp (of SuperLemminiToo), but the lemmings don't seem to trigger the exit entrance. I wonder if any of you can correct this issue. It is because the graphics are in GIF format?

By the way, how come is this levelpack not included by default on SuperLemminiToo??

P.S. I also have the Sega Master System levels, and I suspect they suffer from the same trouble. I will upload them corrected if you help me with these ones  . I also wonder why they aren't included by default on SuperLemminiToo??

edit by kaywhyn: Added the link to download the Genesis/Megadrive levels from the SuperLemmini topic here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5frnphi4ze9nvv/superlemmini_megadrive.lzp?dl=1

Did you know about this? Looks great!

https://www.smspower.org/Hacks/Lemmings-SMS-OhNoMoreLemmings-Mod

It would be interesting to talk about the timed bomber controversy on modern playing

Also, there are two iconic levels you missed: Just Dig! - the classic introduction to the game, and the (in)famous We All Fall Down. It's worth noting that the cleverest levels were on the Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis: Let's Get Together, Lemmings Ark, Fall And No Life Parts I & II, I Am A.T., Private Room Available, and my favorite: Let's Go Camping, despite the embarrasing backroute - the intended solution is the pinnacle of Lemmings puzzles, in my opinion.

You can also talk about the numerous play on words and culture references that the level names have.

Oh, and also, please, talk about MazuLems, the most famous, creative and original custom level pack EVER! A truly inspiration for anyone that wants to make his/her own levels!

Here you can find the Atari ST rom for that clone:

https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=3232

Also at this site:

http://www.mushca.com/f/atari/index.php?idx=T#191|TOMMINGI